Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 18:07     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:DS is dead-set on attending an Ivy league school, but is also only interested in engineering. Based on my research, the strength of the engineering program follows roughly this order:

Cornell
Columbia/Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown

Realistically we think he can only get into Cornell or Dartmouth. While Cornell may have the strongest program, in his situation he would likely lean toward Dartmouth because Dartmouth would still like a real ivy to him and he wouldn't feel insecure about attending Cornell which many think is not a "real" ivy. Would be be shooting himself in the foot by going to Dartmouth over Cornell for engineering?


How about commercial real estate or private equity? Doesn’t sound like he has the solid judgment and perspective for engineering.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 18:07     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League


Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.


I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.



Lol. That's not how it works. It's not what you think that matters. Just because you think Trump is King doesn't make it so. And no, you did not graduate from Columbia SEAS.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 18:05     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:DS is dead-set on attending an Ivy league school, but is also only interested in engineering. Based on my research, the strength of the engineering program follows roughly this order:

Cornell
Columbia/Princeton
Harvard
Yale
Dartmouth
Brown

Realistically we think he can only get into Cornell or Dartmouth. While Cornell may have the strongest program, in his situation he would likely lean toward Dartmouth because Dartmouth would still like a real ivy to him and he wouldn't feel insecure about attending Cornell which many think is not a "real" ivy. Would be be shooting himself in the foot by going to Dartmouth over Cornell for engineering?


Lol. There are so many problems and things wrong with this post I don’t know where to start.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 18:05     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League


According to Fu?


Good one
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 18:03     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:First, it is likely that OP's kid will not get into any Ivy. Second, I would pick UMICH or GT over any Ivy for engineering (also MIT, FWIW).

But the thing about engineering is it the field is more of a meritocracy meaning how good you are matters more than your pedigree.

No, it's not. Engineers (and STEM people in general) like to think this, but it's simply untrue.

-- Someone with an engineering MS from a top-ranked engineering school. Your pedigree matters a lot. Recruiters mention mine to me all the time.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 18:02     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League


Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.


I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.



I should have added that I don't consider Columbia's School of General Studies or Barnard to be Ivy League either.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 18:00     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League


Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.


I'm a 1990 graduate of Columbia SEAS. I consider Columbia College as Ivy League, but not SEAS. SEAS is a separate school with separate admissions.

Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 17:54     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League


That’s . . . not how it works.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 17:42     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League


According to Fu?
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 17:41     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League


Columbia SEAS and Columbia College make up Columbia University in the City of New York, an Ivy League university. Obviously, you didn't go to Columbia.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 17:23     Subject: Ivy league engineering
Columbia's school of engineering is not Ivy League
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 17:16     Subject: Re:Ivy league engineering
He probably can’t hack MIT, GT, or UMICH engineering. Likely also can’t hack Cornell program. So maybe better off going to the lower ranked and easiest one. After all, it’s an Ivy.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 17:09     Subject: Ivy league engineering
First, it is likely that OP's kid will not get into any Ivy. Second, I would pick UMICH or GT over any Ivy for engineering (also MIT, FWIW).

But the thing about engineering is it the field is more of a meritocracy meaning how good you are matters more than your pedigree.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 17:00     Subject: Re:Ivy league engineering
Anonymous wrote:Seems pretty misguided to me. If he wants engineering, look at undergrad engineering rankings and apply based on that. Future employers will care more about engineering programs than overall school.
And for what it’s worth, Princeton is actually the top ivy for undergraduate engineering. Followed by Cornell and Columbia. The rest are all considerably lower in the rankings. Dartmouth might be lowest.


Cornell is #9

Princeton is #12

Your statement is false
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2020 16:59     Subject: Re:Ivy league engineering
Seems pretty misguided to me. If he wants engineering, look at undergrad engineering rankings and apply based on that. Future employers will care more about engineering programs than overall school.
And for what it’s worth, Princeton is actually the top ivy for undergraduate engineering. Followed by Cornell and Columbia. The rest are all considerably lower in the rankings. Dartmouth might be lowest.