Anonymous
Post 10/27/2020 11:38     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:It’s ridiculous that 504s are not considered special ed. Has anyone confirmed that?


Confirmed.

I think this is the way they are managing to keep the pool small and limited to those kids with the highest needs, however.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2020 11:35     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
It’s ridiculous that 504s are not considered special ed. Has anyone confirmed that?
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2020 11:31     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
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Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I think you misunderstood. I meant there are kids who have IEPs who did not get spots. Not every kid at Janney with an IEP got a spot.


Ahh, my bad. Yes, that makes absolute sense. It would mean more than 11 IEPs though, not ELLs as they only go to the ELL bucket after IEPs[/quote]

Why do you think that IEPs & ELLS are prioritized differently?

From the DCPS website:
We are prioritizing classroom seats for our elementary students with the highest need based on current enrollment information. Through a random selection process, we will prioritize by grade level by school:

Students experiencing homelessness
Students who receive special education services or who are English Learners
Students who are designated as At-Risk
All other enrolled students


It’s ridiculous that embassy kids get the same priority is Special Ed kids.


They don’t. Bowser / Ferebee were explicit in one of their presentations that IEP gets preference above ELL. Lutz confirmed this.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2020 10:58     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I think you misunderstood. I meant there are kids who have IEPs who did not get spots. Not every kid at Janney with an IEP got a spot.


Ahh, my bad. Yes, that makes absolute sense. It would mean more than 11 IEPs though, not ELLs as they only go to the ELL bucket after IEPs[/quote]

Why do you think that IEPs & ELLS are prioritized differently?

From the DCPS website:
We are prioritizing classroom seats for our elementary students with the highest need based on current enrollment information. Through a random selection process, we will prioritize by grade level by school:

Students experiencing homelessness
Students who receive special education services or who are English Learners
Students who are designated as At-Risk
All other enrolled students


It’s ridiculous that embassy kids get the same priority is Special Ed kids.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2020 08:11     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I think you misunderstood. I meant there are kids who have IEPs who did not get spots. Not every kid at Janney with an IEP got a spot.


Ahh, my bad. Yes, that makes absolute sense. It would mean more than 11 IEPs though, not ELLs as they only go to the ELL bucket after IEPs[/quote]

Why do you think that IEPs & ELLS are prioritized differently?

From the DCPS website:
We are prioritizing classroom seats for our elementary students with the highest need based on current enrollment information. Through a random selection process, we will prioritize by grade level by school:

Students experiencing homelessness
Students who receive special education services or who are English Learners
Students who are designated as At-Risk
All other enrolled students
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2020 00:53     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
You are considered homeless if you are doubled up with family members due to financial reasons. My friend and her kids live with her parents after her divorce because she can't afford to either rent or buy in her parents nice neighborhood. They are considered homeless by the federal school definition of homeless.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 22:42     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I thought they said on one of the info session Zooms last week that there were no grades where there were more than 11 kids who would get the ELL or IEP priority, but maybe I misunderstood or misheard that. At any rate, our NT native-English-speaking kids didn't get a spot. Now waiting to find out if they're allowed to have JAC teachers work in the CARES classrooms, which would probably make that option much more attractive to us than if it's a middle school administrator there.



Good point about JAC. Did you get a CARES slot?


Won't know until this Friday, right? That's a separate lottery.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 22:39     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I thought they said on one of the info session Zooms last week that there were no grades where there were more than 11 kids who would get the ELL or IEP priority, but maybe I misunderstood or misheard that. At any rate, our NT native-English-speaking kids didn't get a spot. Now waiting to find out if they're allowed to have JAC teachers work in the CARES classrooms, which would probably make that option much more attractive to us than if it's a middle school administrator there.



Good point about JAC. Did you get a CARES slot?
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 22:27     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I thought they said on one of the info session Zooms last week that there were no grades where there were more than 11 kids who would get the ELL or IEP priority, but maybe I misunderstood or misheard that. At any rate, our NT native-English-speaking kids didn't get a spot. Now waiting to find out if they're allowed to have JAC teachers work in the CARES classrooms, which would probably make that option much more attractive to us than if it's a middle school administrator there.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 22:23     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I think you misunderstood. I meant there are kids who have IEPs who did not get spots. Not every kid at Janney with an IEP got a spot.


Ahh, my bad. Yes, that makes absolute sense. It would mean more than 11 IEPs though, not ELLs as they only go to the ELL bucket after IEPs


Does anyone know if this ss this true? IEPs followed by ELL students, then 504s (or no 504s considered)? Is ELL determined by parent designation or assessment?

I could be off, but I suspect there are less IEPs for Janney students in lower grades (k-2), unless the student has a more obvious disability or behavioural issue or the parents were proactive in seeking early stages assessment as the process for determining eligibility for a child who might need services never started or was stalled by covid.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 17:17     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:My read of that call was that it basically a parroting of Union points. Not a lot of ideas, lots of canned talking points.


Right - because the Union doesn't ever want to go back. They really could care less about the kids.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 14:46     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
My read of that call was that it basically a parroting of Union points. Not a lot of ideas, lots of canned talking points.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 14:03     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference

They are stating some kids with IEPs who did not get a spot
Not some kids without IEPs who got spots.

Central office took all students with certain indicators on their profiles on a certain date and did a lottery.
If you look at the Janney school profile, there are 1% of the student body "at-risk", 4% ELL and 9% special education (IEP not 504). Clearly a child could fall in multiple groups - but assuming that they don't, on average 14% of a class of will have been in the lottery for the at school instruction spots.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 14:03     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I think you misunderstood. I meant there are kids who have IEPs who did not get spots. Not every kid at Janney with an IEP got a spot.


Ahh, my bad. Yes, that makes absolute sense. It would mean more than 11 IEPs though, not ELLs as they only go to the ELL bucket after IEPs
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2020 14:02     Subject: Janney families who got a slot
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Janney Parent here: I know of kids with IEPS who got seats, and some who did not, which means there are more than 11 ELLs and IEPs in that grade. Kids with 504s were NOT given any priority. Curious to hear if there is any movement this week as people give up spots.


I’m shocked you know of kids without IEPs who got a seat. In fact, I’m dubious of that. Perhaps you don’t know they have an IEP and the parent is lying by saying they do not. The only other possibility is that the administration believes the child should have an IEP and is severely at risk for lack of one and learning lags and so a seat was given to them. I understand there are one or two seats per grade reserved for such teacher-identified preference


I’m not a Janney parent but I’m pretty sure you misread the above post.