Anonymous
10/28/2020 13:07
Subject: Re:VA State Cup
It’s a Covid year. I’d take anything with a grain of salt.
Anonymous
10/28/2020 13:05
Subject: Re:VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Semi finals
U15
Beach FC 2006B Red v Arlington 2006 Boys Academy
Estudiantes Black v Skyline Elite 06 U15B
U16
Alexandria 2005 Boys Red v Legacy CCL Elite 05
VAR 05B RUSH v Arlington 2005 Boys Academy
U17
Skyline Elite 04 U17B v VAR 04B RUSH
Arlington 2004 Boys Academy v Legacy CCL Elite 04
U18
VB City FC 03 Boys Academy v winner (SYC Lions 2003 Blue v Nacional Black)
Alexandria 2003 Boys Red v Arlington 2003B Red
U19
Arlington 2003/2002 Boys Academy v FC Richmond U18/19 Magic Elite
Beach FC 2002B Red Copa v Argentinos Black
Last year 2019 Champions:
U15 boys: Alexandria Red
U16 boys: SOCA
U17 boys: Beach
U18 boys: Arlington
U19 boys: Soca
Last year Arlington's Academy teams were in the DA and did not compete in State Cup.
As they only had DA till U15, Arlington's first teams already participated in the State cup at the older age groups...
Do not get too excited, even if USYS sells nice Final 4 T-shirts, making it to the semis is much easier than winning the finals.
1. I agree with you. I'm not expecting an Arlington sweep.
2. Arlington's DA teams (basically 2004 and below) are markedly better than the older teams. So last year
- the 2003 team (not DA) lost in the final. This team is playing U19 this year. Last year's winner (Beach) also remains in the competition.
- the 2004 team (DA) also lost in the final. This team is playing U17 this year. Last year's winner (SOCA) also remains in the competition.
- the 2005 and 2006 teams (DA) did not play. These teams are playing U16 and U15 this year.
Anonymous
10/28/2020 12:43
Subject: Re:VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Semi finals
U15
Beach FC 2006B Red v Arlington 2006 Boys Academy
Estudiantes Black v Skyline Elite 06 U15B
U16
Alexandria 2005 Boys Red v Legacy CCL Elite 05
VAR 05B RUSH v Arlington 2005 Boys Academy
U17
Skyline Elite 04 U17B v VAR 04B RUSH
Arlington 2004 Boys Academy v Legacy CCL Elite 04
U18
VB City FC 03 Boys Academy v winner (SYC Lions 2003 Blue v Nacional Black)
Alexandria 2003 Boys Red v Arlington 2003B Red
U19
Arlington 2003/2002 Boys Academy v FC Richmond U18/19 Magic Elite
Beach FC 2002B Red Copa v Argentinos Black
Last year 2019 Champions:
U15 boys: Alexandria Red
U16 boys: SOCA
U17 boys: Beach
U18 boys: Arlington
U19 boys: Soca
Last year Arlington's Academy teams were in the DA and did not compete in State Cup.
As they only had DA till U15, Arlington's first teams already participated in the State cup at the older age groups...
Do not get too excited, even if USYS sells nice Final 4 T-shirts, making it to the semis is much easier than winning the finals.
Anonymous
10/28/2020 12:01
Subject: Re:VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Semi finals
U15
Beach FC 2006B Red v Arlington 2006 Boys Academy
Estudiantes Black v Skyline Elite 06 U15B
U16
Alexandria 2005 Boys Red v Legacy CCL Elite 05
VAR 05B RUSH v Arlington 2005 Boys Academy
U17
Skyline Elite 04 U17B v VAR 04B RUSH
Arlington 2004 Boys Academy v Legacy CCL Elite 04
U18
VB City FC 03 Boys Academy v winner (SYC Lions 2003 Blue v Nacional Black)
Alexandria 2003 Boys Red v Arlington 2003B Red
U19
Arlington 2003/2002 Boys Academy v FC Richmond U18/19 Magic Elite
Beach FC 2002B Red Copa v Argentinos Black
Last year 2019 Champions:
U15 boys: Alexandria Red
U16 boys: SOCA
U17 boys: Beach
U18 boys: Arlington
U19 boys: Soca
Last year Arlington's Academy teams were in the DA and did not compete in State Cup.
Anonymous
10/28/2020 10:46
Subject: Re:VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Semi finals
U15
Beach FC 2006B Red v Arlington 2006 Boys Academy
Estudiantes Black v Skyline Elite 06 U15B
U16
Alexandria 2005 Boys Red v Legacy CCL Elite 05
VAR 05B RUSH v Arlington 2005 Boys Academy
U17
Skyline Elite 04 U17B v VAR 04B RUSH
Arlington 2004 Boys Academy v Legacy CCL Elite 04
U18
VB City FC 03 Boys Academy v winner (SYC Lions 2003 Blue v Nacional Black)
Alexandria 2003 Boys Red v Arlington 2003B Red
U19
Arlington 2003/2002 Boys Academy v FC Richmond U18/19 Magic Elite
Beach FC 2002B Red Copa v Argentinos Black
I find it amusing that when another local Club swept most of the boys age groups last year, you were silent.
I'm the PP. You are correct that I was silent last year but that was because I only discovered this board during covid when I was trying to discover information about what was going on wrt soccer. That said
(1) You are incorrect if you are asserting that I am biased towards or against one club or another. I was merely picking up on the earlier references to Arlington in this thread and thought it was helpful to highlight the teams to show that a sweep was still possible.
(2) Arlington are far from achieving a sweep or anything close to it My guess is that, as well as they have done so far, they end up winning one or two finals only. Still - it's fun to watch how they do - no?
(3) Which club swept the boys age groups last year? As far as I can see SOCA (now Skyline and not local) won two age groups and no other club won more than one. The local clubs with victories were Alexandria and Arlington (one each), with the other age group going to Beach (not local). Looking at the losing finalists the only local clubs I see are Arlington twice and Herndon. So unless I'm looking at completely the wrong results - it appears that Arlington had the best results locally last year as well. No?
Traditionally State Cup was a competition for non ECNL and Non MLS next/GA teams. I guess that could change but I suspect a lot fewer teams will enter if the top ECNL/GA/MLS next teams start throwing themselves in the mix.
Pretty weak response if this is indeed what happens. But I don't think it will be - after all plenty of non league teams enter the FA cup year after year - and having the best teams in the state cup makes it a better competition for everyone.
Last year 2019 Champions:
U15 boys: Alexandria Red
U16 boys: SOCA
U17 boys: Beach
U18 boys: Arlington
U19 boys: Soca
All teams still in the competition assuming U17 Beach team is playing in the U19 competition this year.
I wonder why they have separate competitions for U18 and U19 - why not just have a U19 competiton? Do any clubs actually maintain separate teams at these age groups?
Anonymous
10/28/2020 10:37
Subject: Re:VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Semi finals
U15
Beach FC 2006B Red v Arlington 2006 Boys Academy
Estudiantes Black v Skyline Elite 06 U15B
U16
Alexandria 2005 Boys Red v Legacy CCL Elite 05
VAR 05B RUSH v Arlington 2005 Boys Academy
U17
Skyline Elite 04 U17B v VAR 04B RUSH
Arlington 2004 Boys Academy v Legacy CCL Elite 04
U18
VB City FC 03 Boys Academy v winner (SYC Lions 2003 Blue v Nacional Black)
Alexandria 2003 Boys Red v Arlington 2003B Red
U19
Arlington 2003/2002 Boys Academy v FC Richmond U18/19 Magic Elite
Beach FC 2002B Red Copa v Argentinos Black
I find it amusing that when another local Club swept most of the boys age groups last year, you were silent.
I'm the PP. You are correct that I was silent last year but that was because I only discovered this board during covid when I was trying to discover information about what was going on wrt soccer. That said
(1) You are incorrect if you are asserting that I am biased towards or against one club or another. I was merely picking up on the earlier references to Arlington in this thread and thought it was helpful to highlight the teams to show that a sweep was still possible.
(2) Arlington are far from achieving a sweep or anything close to it My guess is that, as well as they have done so far, they end up winning one or two finals only. Still - it's fun to watch how they do - no?
(3) Which club swept the boys age groups last year? As far as I can see SOCA (now Skyline and not local) won two age groups and no other club won more than one. The local clubs with victories were Alexandria and Arlington (one each), with the other age group going to Beach (not local). Looking at the losing finalists the only local clubs I see are Arlington twice and Herndon. So unless I'm looking at completely the wrong results - it appears that Arlington had the best results locally last year as well. No?
Traditionally State Cup was a competition for non ECNL and Non MLS next/GA teams. I guess that could change but I suspect a lot fewer teams will enter if the top ECNL/GA/MLS next teams start throwing themselves in the mix.
Pretty weak response if this is indeed what happens. But I don't think it will be - after all plenty of non league teams enter the FA cup year after year - and having the best teams in the state cup makes it a better competition for everyone.
Last year 2019 Champions:
U15 boys: Alexandria Red
U16 boys: SOCA
U17 boys: Beach
U18 boys: Arlington
U19 boys: Soca
Anonymous
10/27/2020 12:41
Subject: VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:McLean entered their ECNL team and their Green team in the 05 State Cup. Arlington, also, entered their ECNL team and their Red team in State Cup.
Which state cup, USYS or US Club?
USYS - https://vysa-2020fallstatecup.sportsaffinity.com/tour/public/info/schedule_ladderview2.asp?sessionguid=&flightguid=E2C409D0-B850-48EC-9643-3993E1AFD961&RoundType=0&sortby=Group&tournamentguid=72404983-EB22-4C54-B6F2-7C1025DD78A5&BeginDate=&EndDate=
Anonymous
10/27/2020 07:35
Subject: VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:McLean entered their ECNL team and their Green team in the 05 State Cup. Arlington, also, entered their ECNL team and their Red team in State Cup.
Which state cup, USYS or US Club?
Anonymous
10/27/2020 01:12
Subject: VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:For the trophies, I’ll take:
U15 - SOCA
U16 - Arlington
U17 - Arlington
U18 - Alexandria
U19 - Herndon (Argentinos)
I'm not sure I'd bet against the Arlington U15 team, but I see the U17 team as vulnerable to Skyline (SOCA), and U16 Legacy team must be in contention as well.
Anonymous
10/27/2020 00:52
Subject: VA State Cup
For the trophies, I’ll take:
U15 - SOCA
U16 - Arlington
U17 - Arlington
U18 - Alexandria
U19 - Herndon (Argentinos)
U15 - SOCA
U16 - Arlington
U17 - Arlington
U18 - Alexandria
U19 - Herndon (Argentinos)
Anonymous
10/26/2020 20:31
Subject: VA State Cup
Also, I believe State Cup is open to VPL/NPL teams to register for if they want.
And, VPL's State Cup is open to USYS teams to register if they like.
Doradus often enters their teams in both competitions.
And, VPL's State Cup is open to USYS teams to register if they like.
Doradus often enters their teams in both competitions.
Anonymous
10/26/2020 20:27
Subject: VA State Cup
McLean entered their ECNL team and their Green team in the 05 State Cup. Arlington, also, entered their ECNL team and their Red team in State Cup.
Anonymous
10/26/2020 20:07
Subject: VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea why Richmond is not participating while most other ECNL teams are? The distance does not seem to have been a problem for Beach or Legacy.
Too bad they are absent as they would have been competitive in most age groups.
ECNL clubs are entered but I don't think it is their ECNL team. McLean has entered their green teams
It was MacLean's ECNL teams playing - no matter what they called the teams on the entry forms.
Nope. One state cup game directly conflicted with ECNL games so it's not possible for the boys to play 2 games at once.
One the girls side I know they were all green teams. I have a DD at McLean and no ECNL teams entered state cup
Girls ECNL I believe are not permitted to play state cup. Boys ECNL is different. On the boys side the state cup games were on Saturday and the ECNL games on Sunday - arranged that way precisely so they did not conflict with each other.
I'm an Arlington parent and we played the same McLean team two weekends in a row - once in ECNL and then in the state cup. It was most definitely exactly the same team we played with the same coach and the same kids. Many of the boys on the two teams know each other from having played together when younger and it is not possible that I am mistaken here. I have been reliably told that this was the case for two other age groups as well. It is possible that McLean might play its second team in the U18 age group (as Arlington is doing) and/or its first team in the U19s - but other than that these were MacLean's first teams.
Anonymous
10/26/2020 19:44
Subject: VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea why Richmond is not participating while most other ECNL teams are? The distance does not seem to have been a problem for Beach or Legacy.
Too bad they are absent as they would have been competitive in most age groups.
ECNL clubs are entered but I don't think it is their ECNL team. McLean has entered their green teams
It was MacLean's ECNL teams playing - no matter what they called the teams on the entry forms.
Nope. One state cup game directly conflicted with ECNL games so it's not possible for the boys to play 2 games at once.
One the girls side I know they were all green teams. I have a DD at McLean and no ECNL teams entered state cup
Anonymous
10/26/2020 17:02
Subject: Re:VA State Cup
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Semi finals
U15
Beach FC 2006B Red v Arlington 2006 Boys Academy
Estudiantes Black v Skyline Elite 06 U15B
U16
Alexandria 2005 Boys Red v Legacy CCL Elite 05
VAR 05B RUSH v Arlington 2005 Boys Academy
U17
Skyline Elite 04 U17B v VAR 04B RUSH
Arlington 2004 Boys Academy v Legacy CCL Elite 04
U18
VB City FC 03 Boys Academy v winner (SYC Lions 2003 Blue v Nacional Black)
Alexandria 2003 Boys Red v Arlington 2003B Red
U19
Arlington 2003/2002 Boys Academy v FC Richmond U18/19 Magic Elite
Beach FC 2002B Red Copa v Argentinos Black
I find it amusing that when another local Club swept most of the boys age groups last year, you were silent.
I'm the PP. You are correct that I was silent last year but that was because I only discovered this board during covid when I was trying to discover information about what was going on wrt soccer. That said
(1) You are incorrect if you are asserting that I am biased towards or against one club or another. I was merely picking up on the earlier references to Arlington in this thread and thought it was helpful to highlight the teams to show that a sweep was still possible.
(2) Arlington are far from achieving a sweep or anything close to it My guess is that, as well as they have done so far, they end up winning one or two finals only. Still - it's fun to watch how they do - no?
(3) Which club swept the boys age groups last year? As far as I can see SOCA (now Skyline and not local) won two age groups and no other club won more than one. The local clubs with victories were Alexandria and Arlington (one each), with the other age group going to Beach (not local). Looking at the losing finalists the only local clubs I see are Arlington twice and Herndon. So unless I'm looking at completely the wrong results - it appears that Arlington had the best results locally last year as well. No?
Traditionally State Cup was a competition for non ECNL and Non MLS next/GA teams. I guess that could change but I suspect a lot fewer teams will enter if the top ECNL/GA/MLS next teams start throwing themselves in the mix.
Pretty weak response if this is indeed what happens. But I don't think it will be - after all plenty of non league teams enter the FA cup year after year - and having the best teams in the state cup makes it a better competition for everyone.