Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 13:45     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a recovering JHU graduate. Her first year got off to a bang with a roommate from South Korea who was so ashamed of her pigeon English that she only spoke to other Asians. Try taking an advanced math class at JHU with a classroom "teacher" whose first language was English.


I'm assuming that was supposed to read "not English"? So did your daughter stick with the racism she learned at home, or did she discover the joy of knowing diverse groups of people?


I don't think it's racist to point out that having a math TA who doesn't speak or understand English well is frustrating, and it was a problem at my college too. It's a reasonable expectation that your teachers be able to comprehend and communicate with students.

I'm sympathetic, because when I TA'd at Hopkins I had several ESL students in my class who weren't able to read or write English at a proficient level. It was hard to decode the meaning of their written work, and they couldn't follow our class discussions or read the texts (it was a literature class). I gave them OK grades, making huge allowances for their language skills, because I felt like they were trying to the extent possible, but it felt unfair for them to be in my class without at least a basic competency in English.


Serious question. So how did such students get through the reading & writing sections of the SAT to score well enough to be admitted to a school like JHU? Supposedly those are the parts one can't improve much through prep? Or is full-pay that impactful for admission despite the score?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 12:17     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a recovering JHU graduate. Her first year got off to a bang with a roommate from South Korea who was so ashamed of her pigeon English that she only spoke to other Asians. Try taking an advanced math class at JHU with a classroom "teacher" whose first language was English.


I'm assuming that was supposed to read "not English"? So did your daughter stick with the racism she learned at home, or did she discover the joy of knowing diverse groups of people?


I don't think it's racist to point out that having a math TA who doesn't speak or understand English well is frustrating, and it was a problem at my college too. It's a reasonable expectation that your teachers be able to comprehend and communicate with students.

I'm sympathetic, because when I TA'd at Hopkins I had several ESL students in my class who weren't able to read or write English at a proficient level. It was hard to decode the meaning of their written work, and they couldn't follow our class discussions or read the texts (it was a literature class). I gave them OK grades, making huge allowances for their language skills, because I felt like they were trying to the extent possible, but it felt unfair for them to be in my class without at least a basic competency in English.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 12:09     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
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Anonymous wrote:I went to JHU for grad school and a lot of my classmates went to JHU undergrad. It sounds like a very intense place, even if you’re not an engineering major.

All of them are extremely smart and well accomplished in the fields of finance and consulting. But they are all quite serious and a bit joyless. Very uptight. Not sure if that’s the type of people the school attracts or if the school forms them into uptight adults. But it’s not a school for slackers.

They feel affinity for the school because of the relationships they formed and the excellent education. But there is a decidedly lack of school spirit. I went to NYU undergrad and it’s similar vibes. If my kid got into the JHU, I’d be torn on whether or not they should attend.


If you pay $55k/year to attend JHU, you better not slack. I'd be very disappointed to pay and find out my kid was slacking!


CalTech and JHU are probably the biggest pressure-cooker undergrad programs in the country. Even MIT sounds less rigorous and certainly more social/enjoyable - tons of school spirit at MIT.

Like I said, I’d be torn if my kid got into JHU. They need to go into the school with clear eyes. That said, the school gets the best job recruiting in the mid-Atlantic. Maybe a notch below Wharton undergrad, but every major company recruits out of JHU. The school doesn’t produce dummies.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 11:58     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:I went to JHU for grad school and a lot of my classmates went to JHU undergrad. It sounds like a very intense place, even if you’re not an engineering major.

All of them are extremely smart and well accomplished in the fields of finance and consulting. But they are all quite serious and a bit joyless. Very uptight. Not sure if that’s the type of people the school attracts or if the school forms them into uptight adults. But it’s not a school for slackers.

They feel affinity for the school because of the relationships they formed and the excellent education. But there is a decidedly lack of school spirit. I went to NYU undergrad and it’s similar vibes. If my kid got into the JHU, I’d be torn on whether or not they should attend.


If you pay $55k/year to attend JHU, you better not slack. I'd be very disappointed to pay and find out my kid was slacking!
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 11:55     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
I think JHU has a great brand among intellectual people. What it’s missing is sports. Lacrosse doesn’t have the same wide recognition as football or basketball.


This and the bad undergraduate experience. Also, it is small.

I agree that it has a great brand among intellectual people and those who know how hard it is to get into.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 11:51     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a recovering JHU graduate. Her first year got off to a bang with a roommate from South Korea who was so ashamed of her pigeon English that she only spoke to other Asians. Try taking an advanced math class at JHU with a classroom "teacher" whose first language was English.


I'm assuming that was supposed to read "not English"? So did your daughter stick with the racism she learned at home, or did she discover the joy of knowing diverse groups of people?
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 11:47     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
My daughter is a recovering JHU graduate. Her first year got off to a bang with a roommate from South Korea who was so ashamed of her pigeon English that she only spoke to other Asians. Try taking an advanced math class at JHU with a classroom "teacher" whose first language was English.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 11:39     Subject: Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because it's in a crappy area. I think it's a great school, but JHU and Baltimore need to work on cleaning that mess up.


The hospital and medical school are in a crappy area. The undergrad campus is in Charles Village, With abuts Guilford and Roland Park. It isn’t the least bit crappy.

Not knowing what they are talking about never stops anyone on dcum.


Those neighborhoods are actually north of the undergrad campus. They are much safer and more suburban than "Homewood," which is where students live and walk around all hours of the day and night. And you know it.

I think you are trying to mislead people who have not been there.


As the PP said, Homewood is just the campus, Charles Villiage is the closest neighborhood. It's not as fancy as Guildford or Roland Park, it is an urban neighborhood, but it's fine.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 11:33     Subject: Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
^ Yes! I went to NYU and I ended up graduating early because I was so sick of the "too cool for school" mentality. These kids pretended they were just New Yorkers who happened to take college classes lol.
However, I went on to be schooled at universities higher ranked than NYU and I have to say the education at NYU was SO rigorous and OUTSTANDING. I had to work the hardest there by far. At the time, I thought, why doesn't NYU have a better reputation academically? But in the years since it's almost gotten there.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 11:08     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
I went to JHU for grad school and a lot of my classmates went to JHU undergrad. It sounds like a very intense place, even if you’re not an engineering major.

All of them are extremely smart and well accomplished in the fields of finance and consulting. But they are all quite serious and a bit joyless. Very uptight. Not sure if that’s the type of people the school attracts or if the school forms them into uptight adults. But it’s not a school for slackers.

They feel affinity for the school because of the relationships they formed and the excellent education. But there is a decidedly lack of school spirit. I went to NYU undergrad and it’s similar vibes. If my kid got into the JHU, I’d be torn on whether or not they should attend.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 10:53     Subject: Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Many people are not fans of JHU, which is interesting because so many people in this area went there.

The defensive posters may just have to accept that lots of alumni of JHU do not like the place.

I, personally, would not donate a dime to them (and yes, I did go there).
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 10:51     Subject: Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the undergrad experience and atmosphere at JHU sucks.

—PhD from JHU who heard a lot from talked the undergraduates I TA’d.


You again? Maybe let the people who actually went there speak for themselves. I had a fantastic undergrad experience.


I’ve never posted on this subject before. Don’t be so defensive.


Really? Someone posts the exact same line in every Hopkins thread, right down to I didn’t go there Undergrad but was a TA.


New poster, and I was a TA at Hopkins too ! I think there are just a lot of us -- because they use a ton of grad students to staff undergrad classes. I had a similar experience to the previous poster, in that my students seemed unhappy and the Hopkins undergrad experience struck me as crummy, bureaucratic, and cold in comparison with my own recent college experience at a different school. But I have since met recent grads who loved their time at Hopkins so maybe it has improved or maybe it's just a matter of being the right fit for the school.


I found it to be a money grubbing institution.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 10:51     Subject: Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because it's in a crappy area. I think it's a great school, but JHU and Baltimore need to work on cleaning that mess up.


The hospital and medical school are in a crappy area. The undergrad campus is in Charles Village, With abuts Guilford and Roland Park. It isn’t the least bit crappy.

Not knowing what they are talking about never stops anyone on dcum.


Those neighborhoods are actually north of the undergrad campus. They are much safer and more suburban than "Homewood," which is where students live and walk around all hours of the day and night. And you know it.

I think you are trying to mislead people who have not been there.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 09:32     Subject: Re:Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Poor thing. That must be hard to live with.
Anonymous
Post 10/12/2020 08:06     Subject: Why does JHU have so low name recognition / lay prestige?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the undergrad experience and atmosphere at JHU sucks.

—PhD from JHU who heard a lot from talked the undergraduates I TA’d.


You again? Maybe let the people who actually went there speak for themselves. I had a fantastic undergrad experience.


I’ve never posted on this subject before. Don’t be so defensive.


Really? Someone posts the exact same line in every Hopkins thread, right down to I didn’t go there Undergrad but was a TA.


New poster, and I was a TA at Hopkins too ! I think there are just a lot of us -- because they use a ton of grad students to staff undergrad classes. I had a similar experience to the previous poster, in that my students seemed unhappy and the Hopkins undergrad experience struck me as crummy, bureaucratic, and cold in comparison with my own recent college experience at a different school. But I have since met recent grads who loved their time at Hopkins so maybe it has improved or maybe it's just a matter of being the right fit for the school.