Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 23:16     Subject: Re:I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Op, move to Japan! Seriously, tipping is considered offensive there, it you leave cash on the table at the end your meal, they will chase you down the street in an effort to return your money😅
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 23:13     Subject: Re:I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
i tip 10%
easy math
it used to be normal 20 yrs ago and its good now
if they want more money get another job. or ask for raise from your employer.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 23:10     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.


Take it to the "I love ridiculous tipping culture" thread. We're busy here ya goof!!


To you people it's a ridiculous tipping culture issue, to her it's how she makes a living. I do get that none of you care about that. It takes skill and intelligence and she loves what she does.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:50     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.


I just hope she’s reporting it on her taxes
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:45     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.


Take it to the "I love ridiculous tipping culture" thread. We're busy here ya goof!!
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:32     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
I am very thankful that the restaurant where my daughter works is not full of morons like you people. She makes about $1000 a week average in tips. She does not complain about low tippers because they are rare and she understands that they typically just aren't too bright. High tippers more than make up for them. Even so, I would like to request that you all stay out of any fine dining restaurant anywhere. All the servers, including my daughter, appreciate it.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:26     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:Tipping has gotten out of control. I go into a bakery to get a donut? The cashier aggressively pushes for an additional 20% tip on the bill. It's really obnoxious.


This did not happen.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:14     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:Tipping has gotten out of control. I go into a bakery to get a donut? The cashier aggressively pushes for an additional 20% tip on the bill. It's really obnoxious.


You should get good service regardless of a tip. Its business 101.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:13     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tipping has gotten out of control. I go into a bakery to get a donut? The cashier aggressively pushes for an additional 20% tip on the bill. It's really obnoxious.


What does this... mean. What do they do to "aggressively push"????


Yeah, you got me there, too. ‘Splain please.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:05     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:Tipping has gotten out of control. I go into a bakery to get a donut? The cashier aggressively pushes for an additional 20% tip on the bill. It's really obnoxious.


What does this... mean. What do they do to "aggressively push"????
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:05     Subject: Re:I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Tipping should be a thank you for good service, not a mandatory 20% (or more) surcharge on your bills. Pay the employees an honest wage and let customers add 5 or 10% if they want to. The gradual creep of tips from 15 to 20 to even 30 percent is ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 22:04     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Tipping has gotten out of control. I go into a bakery to get a donut? The cashier aggressively pushes for an additional 20% tip on the bill. It's really obnoxious.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 21:57     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Totally agree, OP.

Nobody wants to feel like they're being unfair to others, but nobody wants to feel ripped off either. Just charge the freaking price you want, and people can decide whether or not to buy your service and everyone can relax about it.


I don't believe that 20% tip is normal either the way many people and surveys claim (of course they'd be incentivized to push the amount up higher and higher). I think 10% is fine unless someone really went out of their way.


I'm not a server, but I can assure you that you are definitely an outlier. 20% is the norm now.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 21:56     Subject: Re:I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:There's a thread in restaurant forum about tipping on $300 bottle of wine, and anyone saying that 'No, I don't want to give a 20% on that' gets scolded. Now, I don't plan to order a $300 bottle of wine any time too soon, but I do think that I should be entitled of treating myself to an expensive bottle of wine or champagne for whatever reason, without being obligated to hand over extra $60 for waitstaff [audience is booing at this point, I assume]
Lets compare a bill of 100 for food + 60 bottle of wine vs 100 for food + 300 for champagne. 20% tip would be $32 vs $80 for exact same work (not calculating taxes or, ahem, tip on taxes). I wouldn't tip 32 bucks on a $400 dollar bill, but then again - I don't want to feel obligated to tip $80 either. Since why does my opinion not matter? Maybe even the restaurant owner would like me to return, despite my cheap tips, to buy more wine? How come anything other that 'whatever, 50 bucks here or there' is a social faux pas?
(Additonally, the system where restaurant owners are allowed not to pay even a minimum wage, and this obligation is rolled onto customers, is ridiculous. Guess we can be glad that the service of cooking food or delivering produce to the restaurant is included in price, for now.)

The same for salon services. Lets say I pay $250 for cut+color. It is not a cheap service. The cost of actual product used is $25 bucks, lets say other costs, incl the portion of rent, are $50. That would leave $175 for the service. Not earth shattering, but not at all horrible for 2 hrs of expert work. So anyone who doesn't add extra 50 for service (+extra if someone else washes your hair) is a bad person and doesn't deserve to have their hair cut?

And those above aren't even the most annoying examples. When a casual 'serve yourself at the counter' type eatery has tip options starting from 18% and going up to 30% in the system, then we're really talking!


I completely agree- the current system of tipping is ridiculous. If anything it should be based on the amount of time you spend at the table (since that is the opportunity cost to the server) rather than the cost of your meal. It takes no greater effort on the part of a server to open/bring a 300 bottle of wine than a 30 dollar bottle, or an order of Kobe beef over a hamburger. On the other hand the person who orders a dessert and coffee with multiple free refills and sits for two + hours is only expected to tip a few dollars.
Anonymous
Post 09/30/2020 21:55     Subject: I'm so fed up with the tipping culture!
Anonymous wrote:Totally agree, OP.

Nobody wants to feel like they're being unfair to others, but nobody wants to feel ripped off either. Just charge the freaking price you want, and people can decide whether or not to buy your service and everyone can relax about it.


I don't believe that 20% tip is normal either the way many people and surveys claim (of course they'd be incentivized to push the amount up higher and higher). I think 10% is fine unless someone really went out of their way.