Anonymous
09/24/2020 21:11
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Anonymous wrote:Can it really be called mid Samson in September?
Nope, which is why the idea of moving kids already is pretty strange.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 18:28
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
I agree with a previous poster. stop worrying about what team your on and bust your tail to be the best so you take the question away from the coach.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 18:22
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Season*
Anonymous
09/24/2020 18:21
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Can it really be called mid Samson in September?
Anonymous
09/24/2020 17:30
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Anonymous wrote:We are moving one of our kids after Fall season, not mid-season but mid-year. I feel that is fair.
He has outgrown the Club and the team and it has been painfully obvious the last tournament and the last two games.
They also stunted his player development by never putting him in any position, but one. This was U10-U12. 3 years. He's now U13. This was repeatedly brought up to them by player..and eventually us. They consider him 'clutch' in this one place and it has severely stunted his individual development. When he arrived they went on and on about how versatile a player he was and how he was excellent anywhere on the field...and then after 2 games they never moved him. He's a starter and plays whole game---but team is crumbling and he would be better served elsewhere.
Commute was also long so makes sense to go. We stayed because of the 'no tryout' thing last Spring, but I wish we had moved him before the season started. We are on really good terms so I think they will release his player card mid-season no problem.
I think that's fair, PP. IMO your main gripe should be they are not developing your child as promised by keeping him in one position. It sounds like the current team might be okay if not ideal if your child was able to move around positions. Have you spoken with the coach? Also a lot of team in our area are crumbling as you say. Kids are depressed and can't be as active as they want to be. They are sitting in front of a computer all and who knows what that's doing to their bodies but it's not good. Some kids or family members are getting sick and have to be out of training for a while. Maybe they aren't even sick but need to quarantine. They may have lost family members. I wouldn't judge based on this season. There are also a number of kids sitting out until we get a vaccine. Once they come back many will come back to their old teams and probably pick right back up.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 17:26
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a U13 and U16 and players came back in all kinds of different condition and level of play.
Some have gained weight and are out of shape and slow. It's obvious no training was done in the off-time, some players have lost their touch completely.
Even with Covid, my kids trained all summer. The Club should move players where they 'are' for the current season. You should always have to 'earn' your spot. It should always be merit-based.
It does not take long to get back in form specially at these age groups. There were are ton of kids with bad touch on top teams before the pandemic and there will be a lot moving forward. You do not need to be Messi or Rose Lavelle to make a top travel team.
Coaches in our club shuffled teams during the summer. They shouldn't have to do it again in the fall IMO. It's very disruptive, especially in the world we are in now. I also don't like it as an infection risk. You committed to a certain bubble. When that bubble is constantly being shuffled around or made larger it's not a good for anyone right now.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 17:24
Subject: Mid-season team change?
I think it depends on the expectations that were communicated to parents and players when they signed up.
If, like Arlington, parents and kids were told they should expect movement and that team placement was not guaranteed it makes sense that some kids might be moved and while it might be disappointing for some everyone knew it was a possibility.
Agree with PP that if it's a player new to the team who was given an offer of a certain team and she wasn't explicitly told they would be shuffling players around mid-season they should honor that commitment for the year.
If, like Arlington, parents and kids were told they should expect movement and that team placement was not guaranteed it makes sense that some kids might be moved and while it might be disappointing for some everyone knew it was a possibility.
Agree with PP that if it's a player new to the team who was given an offer of a certain team and she wasn't explicitly told they would be shuffling players around mid-season they should honor that commitment for the year.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 16:56
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Keeping team rosters fluid brings out the best competition by far. Being comfortable and complacent has no place in competitive sports at any age. Get your friends together and sign up for a rec team if your more about the fun and friendships. Thats why we have competitive and recreation options. Tell your DD if want to stay on the A team show it and fight for it everyday. She will appreciate it and thank you later.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 16:55
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Anonymous wrote:I have a U13 and U16 and players came back in all kinds of different condition and level of play.
Some have gained weight and are out of shape and slow. It's obvious no training was done in the off-time, some players have lost their touch completely.
Even with Covid, my kids trained all summer. The Club should move players where they 'are' for the current season. You should always have to 'earn' your spot. It should always be merit-based.
It does not take long to get back in form specially at these age groups. There were are ton of kids with bad touch on top teams before the pandemic and there will be a lot moving forward. You do not need to be Messi or Rose Lavelle to make a top travel team.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 16:22
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
Anonymous wrote:I have a U13 and U16 and players came back in all kinds of different condition and level of play.
Some have gained weight and are out of shape and slow. It's obvious no training was done in the off-time, some players have lost their touch completely.
Even with Covid, my kids trained all summer. The Club should move players where they 'are' for the current season. You should always have to 'earn' your spot. It should always be merit-based.
that makes sense for returning players- but when you recruit a new player based on a team placement, you should have to honor it
Anonymous
09/24/2020 16:08
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
I have a U13 and U16 and players came back in all kinds of different condition and level of play.
Some have gained weight and are out of shape and slow. It's obvious no training was done in the off-time, some players have lost their touch completely.
Even with Covid, my kids trained all summer. The Club should move players where they 'are' for the current season. You should always have to 'earn' your spot. It should always be merit-based.
Some have gained weight and are out of shape and slow. It's obvious no training was done in the off-time, some players have lost their touch completely.
Even with Covid, my kids trained all summer. The Club should move players where they 'are' for the current season. You should always have to 'earn' your spot. It should always be merit-based.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 16:06
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
We are moving one of our kids after Fall season, not mid-season but mid-year. I feel that is fair.
He has outgrown the Club and the team and it has been painfully obvious the last tournament and the last two games.
They also stunted his player development by never putting him in any position, but one. This was U10-U12. 3 years. He's now U13. This was repeatedly brought up to them by player..and eventually us. They consider him 'clutch' in this one place and it has severely stunted his individual development. When he arrived they went on and on about how versatile a player he was and how he was excellent anywhere on the field...and then after 2 games they never moved him. He's a starter and plays whole game---but team is crumbling and he would be better served elsewhere.
Commute was also long so makes sense to go. We stayed because of the 'no tryout' thing last Spring, but I wish we had moved him before the season started. We are on really good terms so I think they will release his player card mid-season no problem.
He has outgrown the Club and the team and it has been painfully obvious the last tournament and the last two games.
They also stunted his player development by never putting him in any position, but one. This was U10-U12. 3 years. He's now U13. This was repeatedly brought up to them by player..and eventually us. They consider him 'clutch' in this one place and it has severely stunted his individual development. When he arrived they went on and on about how versatile a player he was and how he was excellent anywhere on the field...and then after 2 games they never moved him. He's a starter and plays whole game---but team is crumbling and he would be better served elsewhere.
Commute was also long so makes sense to go. We stayed because of the 'no tryout' thing last Spring, but I wish we had moved him before the season started. We are on really good terms so I think they will release his player card mid-season no problem.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 15:52
Subject: Mid-season team change?
OP - Do you think that the club is contemplating moving players (including, perhaps, your daughter) this year because of all of the disruptions caused by COVID (i.e. cancelled Spring season and no try-outs for this year)?
My DS plays for Arlington, and Arlington has said repeatedly this year to expect more movement between teams because the club was not able to go through the regular try-out process due to COVID. As a consequence of the failure to hold try-outs, most kids were simply placed on the same team as last year. As such, there was much less movement between teams going into this year.
To correct for this, the club will give players frequent opportunities to guest play on other teams and practice with other teams throughout the Fall season. Players may be moved to new teams between the Fall and Spring seasons.
My DS plays for Arlington, and Arlington has said repeatedly this year to expect more movement between teams because the club was not able to go through the regular try-out process due to COVID. As a consequence of the failure to hold try-outs, most kids were simply placed on the same team as last year. As such, there was much less movement between teams going into this year.
To correct for this, the club will give players frequent opportunities to guest play on other teams and practice with other teams throughout the Fall season. Players may be moved to new teams between the Fall and Spring seasons.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 09:41
Subject: Re:Mid-season team change?
My kid is in LMVSC, the club is doing so bad in CCL and they won't let us leave. Forget any money back.
They move lower tear players to top tear and we got the surprise when practices started, no mentioning before.
They move lower tear players to top tear and we got the surprise when practices started, no mentioning before.
Anonymous
09/24/2020 09:30
Subject: Mid-season team change?
Anonymous wrote:Have seen this happen on my DD team. The roster was gigantic because they took on new players mid-way through the season and new girls parents were promised playtime. Coaches would rotate moving girls to the second team for games. This, of course caused a lot of anger amongst parents so coach decided to permanently move 2 players to the second team. They were still allowed to practice once a week with the top team. One parent up and left the club. Coach refused to give them their player card so she could not play in games with new team. The other refused to move. Coach stopped playing her in games completely. It was a very sad situation and upsetting to all of the girls.
It is as if you were part of my DD's Loudoun team.
Glad we left that cesspool!