Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:49     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell dropped to #18, lol. It's basically not an Ivy league any more


We've never considered Cornell to be a legitimate Ivy League school. Yes, they're in our athletic conference. But not even close to being a peer school.


If by peer you mean selectivity which is really all this board cares about, the ivy league is not a group of peer schools. They are very different from one another i spite of competing in Athletics. Even HYP are not peers in terms of being the same place or attracting the same students.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:49     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cornell dropped to #18, lol. It's basically not an Ivy league any more


We've never considered Cornell to be a legitimate Ivy League school. Yes, they're in our athletic conference. But not even close to being a peer school.


Cornel guy! Welcome back to you and your giant grudge! You have been missed!
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:49     Subject: Re:2021 USNews rankings
Rankings are BS. People need to look beyond the prestige and ranking and find a college that truly is a good fit.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:44     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:Cornell dropped to #18, lol. It's basically not an Ivy league any more


We've never considered Cornell to be a legitimate Ivy League school. Yes, they're in our athletic conference. But not even close to being a peer school.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:40     Subject: Re:2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:Seems a bit off to call the Naval Academy a liberal arts college.


I was curious about that as well. What is the culture at the naval academy? Are there a mix of liberal and conservative students there?
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:28     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:Michigan ranked ahead of UVA.


As it was last year.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 09:19     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Michigan ranked ahead of UVA.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 08:27     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
UMD now ranked ahead of Penn State.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 08:26     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:As someone in academia, these rankings are a joke. Schools manipulate numbers and move things around to improve rankings. I really wish students/parents/alums would stop caring about these stupid rankings so colleges and universities could stop playing the game and focus their energy elsewhere.


+1

People who go to St. John’s College don’t care about the ranking bc they are there for a specific reason, great books. If students focus on their specific educational goal and college fit, USNews rankings become irrelevant.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 08:22     Subject: Re:2021 USNews rankings
Seems a bit off to call the Naval Academy a liberal arts college.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 08:15     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Not as flashy as Top 25 schools but some big jumps for a few schools from last year:

Howard +24 (104 to 80)
Yeshiva +21 (97 to 76)
U of Arizona +20 (117 to 97)
U of Denver +17 (97 to 80)

Largest drops

Drexel -36 (97 to 133)
UC Santa Cruz -13 (84 to 97)
Miami Ohio -12 (91 to 103)
Northeastern -9 (40 to 49)
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 07:53     Subject: Re:2021 USNews rankings
Some apparent changes

https://twitter.com/SpiveyConsult/status/1305473829393883137
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 07:35     Subject: Re:2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Emory will pass Cornell eventually. DC will explode



Why is Emory so high? Does it know how to play the game or is there some kind of amazing draw?

Emory has always been ranked highly, I cannot remember a time when it was ranked outside the top25.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 07:22     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:USNWR is a cancer on the whole system. The rankings change for stupid reasons every year just so they can sell crap.

The dirty secret is that it generally doesn't really matter where you go to school for undergrad. Successful people will be successful no matter where they go. Without the added dumb pressure of USNWR rankings, college tuition would be lower.


I find it fascinating that the top LACs on the list have COA in the 70,000s, while the “bottom” LACs have COA in the 40-50,000s.
Anonymous
Post 09/14/2020 06:59     Subject: 2021 USNews rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:63 St Johns

63 Reed


Expected for schools that refused to play USNews ranking game for years. Had they played the game, they would be in T20s.


Not St Johns. Any full pay DMV kid with a mix of A's and B's and an SAT over 1300 can get in there.


You're just talking selectivity. That is but one small measure of how good a school is and how it is ranked.