Anonymous
Post 09/28/2020 22:50     Subject: if somehow we could abolish the pay-to-play system in this country...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:clubs in other countries still pay their coaches, who are professionals.


Bottom line is that a professional league needs to spring up and offer kids who are U15 and older contracts (below that, it is illegal for the kids to work). The contracts would guarantee schooling, soccer training, and housing. The quid pro quo would be that the school would "own" the kid for a certain length of time. Maybe until they were 21. Clauses to get out. Then the schools would "sell" the contracts to teams for a certain price. That sale of contracts would allow good schools to continue and bad schools would fail.

I am surprised that someone hasn't done this in America yet. Perhaps Socialism is more conducive to this structure?

In America, we want our kids to be great at everything. In Europe, if you don't know math by the time you are 10, you won't ever learn Calculus. I'm pretty sure that in Scotland, they don't even teach English (kidding, kidding). But seriously, Until this happens or until the NFL burns every bridge it can, American Soccer will never be a driving force in the world.


What if the kid repudiates the contract at 18?


FIFA can require what they like, all it takes is one kid wanting to play for a team in California suing their former club/FIFA under California labor laws and the system dies here

Doesn't work like that. FIFA requires member clubs all over the world to make payments to the club which trained the kid - provided that the training club met certain requirements. Works that way whether or not the kid signed a contract.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2020 20:42     Subject: if somehow we could abolish the pay-to-play system in this country...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:clubs in other countries still pay their coaches, who are professionals.


Bottom line is that a professional league needs to spring up and offer kids who are U15 and older contracts (below that, it is illegal for the kids to work). The contracts would guarantee schooling, soccer training, and housing. The quid pro quo would be that the school would "own" the kid for a certain length of time. Maybe until they were 21. Clauses to get out. Then the schools would "sell" the contracts to teams for a certain price. That sale of contracts would allow good schools to continue and bad schools would fail.

I am surprised that someone hasn't done this in America yet. Perhaps Socialism is more conducive to this structure?

In America, we want our kids to be great at everything. In Europe, if you don't know math by the time you are 10, you won't ever learn Calculus. I'm pretty sure that in Scotland, they don't even teach English (kidding, kidding). But seriously, Until this happens or until the NFL burns every bridge it can, American Soccer will never be a driving force in the world.


What if the kid repudiates the contract at 18?


Doesn't work like that. FIFA requires member clubs all over the world to make payments to the club which trained the kid - provided that the training club met certain requirements. Works that way whether or not the kid signed a contract.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2020 19:49     Subject: if somehow we could abolish the pay-to-play system in this country...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:clubs in other countries still pay their coaches, who are professionals.


Bottom line is that a professional league needs to spring up and offer kids who are U15 and older contracts (below that, it is illegal for the kids to work). The contracts would guarantee schooling, soccer training, and housing. The quid pro quo would be that the school would "own" the kid for a certain length of time. Maybe until they were 21. Clauses to get out. Then the schools would "sell" the contracts to teams for a certain price. That sale of contracts would allow good schools to continue and bad schools would fail.

I am surprised that someone hasn't done this in America yet. Perhaps Socialism is more conducive to this structure?

In America, we want our kids to be great at everything. In Europe, if you don't know math by the time you are 10, you won't ever learn Calculus. I'm pretty sure that in Scotland, they don't even teach English (kidding, kidding). But seriously, Until this happens or until the NFL burns every bridge it can, American Soccer will never be a driving force in the world.


What if the kid repudiates the contract at 18?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2020 19:44     Subject: if somehow we could abolish the pay-to-play system in this country...

Anonymous wrote:Yes, if somehow things in life were free and rainbows shot out of my ass. Grow up fool.


Great response