Anonymous
Post 08/30/2020 07:11     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington parent here - i have been very happy with how they have managed practices. A few outliers in terms of coaches and kids and parents - but mostly all very good (the three young DA boys who showed up for a srimmage last weekend and all slapped hands upon arrivel and then spread out 6 feet really did make me want to scratch my head though....) I think a lot is being set by tone - our coach is very good about keepng the boys spreadout when he is talking to them - which sets a good tone and example.


I wish the coach would take temperatures before practice/games and not rely on the players to self police. I really doubt every player is checking their own temperature before practice/scrimmage/games.


Fever is not always a symptom. Taking temperatures is pointless.


80% of people with coronavirus have a fever. So no it is not pointless but your post shows people like you will not comply with the simplest of instructions. I bet the kid or his parents did not test before the scrimmage/games. Now 2 teams are out for 2 weeks. Thanks! You sound like a great person.


And somewhere around 40% of transmission is presymptomatic. Temperature-taking is pandemic theatre and only works to convince unintelligent people that the risks they are taking are "safe."


Pandemic theater really is my favorite... it makes people feel good, but is of marginal use. I do think the real value in reporting or taking temperature is more in the reminder to assess each day how your child feels - and for that there is value to make people pause and think.


The mental gymnastics some people do just to avoid taking their kids temperature. A simple task that takes <1 minute.

I bet you sent your sick kids to school pre-pandemic. And don’t wear masks.

So much disrespect for others. JFC.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2020 07:11     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
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Anonymous wrote:taking temperature is probably the easiest and least intrusive thing to do but there’re still people oppose it. For what reason, really? It takes one second per kid. One second.


I agree. The logic seems to be that if we cannot screen accurately all the time, we either stop playing or screen none of the time. I don’t really understand that at all.


Yes, this "apply the exception" fallacy does come up over and over again.

Oh wait, here's a another one....

Anonymous wrote:And somewhere around 40% of transmission is presymptomatic. Temperature-taking is pandemic theatre and only works to convince unintelligent people that the risks they are taking are "safe."


Yikes. Let's put this in terms that you might better understand. You're hanging out at the 7-11 buying your usual hot dog and beer and you know your odds on a big lottery draw that night are a 60% chance of winning if you just buy one ticket. Do you buy the ticket or do you walk away because you don't like the odds?





Lmao! They don't sell beer but that scenario is hilarious.
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2020 07:07     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:OMG ASA has so many too cool for school parents


Lol!
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2020 07:06     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington parent here - i have been very happy with how they have managed practices. A few outliers in terms of coaches and kids and parents - but mostly all very good (the three young DA boys who showed up for a srimmage last weekend and all slapped hands upon arrivel and then spread out 6 feet really did make me want to scratch my head though....) I think a lot is being set by tone - our coach is very good about keepng the boys spreadout when he is talking to them - which sets a good tone and example.


I wish the coach would take temperatures before practice/games and not rely on the players to self police. I really doubt every player is checking their own temperature before practice/scrimmage/games.


Fever is not always a symptom. Taking temperatures is pointless.


80% of people with coronavirus have a fever. So no it is not pointless but your post shows people like you will not comply with the simplest of instructions. I bet the kid or his parents did not test before the scrimmage/games. Now 2 teams are out for 2 weeks. Thanks! You sound like a great person.


And somewhere around 40% of transmission is presymptomatic. Temperature-taking is pandemic theatre and only works to convince unintelligent people that the risks they are taking are "safe."


Which means 60% of transmission *majority* is while the person is symptomatic- since 80% of positives have a fever-hence temperature taking..."thou intelligent one."
Anonymous
Post 08/30/2020 00:36     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
OMG ASA has so many too cool for school parents
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 23:57     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington parent here - i have been very happy with how they have managed practices. A few outliers in terms of coaches and kids and parents - but mostly all very good (the three young DA boys who showed up for a srimmage last weekend and all slapped hands upon arrivel and then spread out 6 feet really did make me want to scratch my head though....) I think a lot is being set by tone - our coach is very good about keepng the boys spreadout when he is talking to them - which sets a good tone and example.


I wish the coach would take temperatures before practice/games and not rely on the players to self police. I really doubt every player is checking their own temperature before practice/scrimmage/games.


Fever is not always a symptom. Taking temperatures is pointless.


80% of people with coronavirus have a fever. So no it is not pointless but your post shows people like you will not comply with the simplest of instructions. I bet the kid or his parents did not test before the scrimmage/games. Now 2 teams are out for 2 weeks. Thanks! You sound like a great person.


And somewhere around 40% of transmission is presymptomatic. Temperature-taking is pandemic theatre and only works to convince unintelligent people that the risks they are taking are "safe."


Pandemic theater really is my favorite... it makes people feel good, but is of marginal use. I do think the real value in reporting or taking temperature is more in the reminder to assess each day how your child feels - and for that there is value to make people pause and think.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 23:17     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:taking temperature is probably the easiest and least intrusive thing to do but there’re still people oppose it. For what reason, really? It takes one second per kid. One second.


I agree. The logic seems to be that if we cannot screen accurately all the time, we either stop playing or screen none of the time. I don’t really understand that at all.


Yes, this "apply the exception" fallacy does come up over and over again.

Oh wait, here's a another one....

Anonymous wrote:And somewhere around 40% of transmission is presymptomatic. Temperature-taking is pandemic theatre and only works to convince unintelligent people that the risks they are taking are "safe."


Yikes. Let's put this in terms that you might better understand. You're hanging out at the 7-11 buying your usual hot dog and beer and you know your odds on a big lottery draw that night are a 60% chance of winning if you just buy one ticket. Do you buy the ticket or do you walk away because you don't like the odds?



Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 22:58     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arlington parent here - i have been very happy with how they have managed practices. A few outliers in terms of coaches and kids and parents - but mostly all very good (the three young DA boys who showed up for a srimmage last weekend and all slapped hands upon arrivel and then spread out 6 feet really did make me want to scratch my head though....) I think a lot is being set by tone - our coach is very good about keepng the boys spreadout when he is talking to them - which sets a good tone and example.


I wish the coach would take temperatures before practice/games and not rely on the players to self police. I really doubt every player is checking their own temperature before practice/scrimmage/games.


Fever is not always a symptom. Taking temperatures is pointless.


80% of people with coronavirus have a fever. So no it is not pointless but your post shows people like you will not comply with the simplest of instructions. I bet the kid or his parents did not test before the scrimmage/games. Now 2 teams are out for 2 weeks. Thanks! You sound like a great person.


And somewhere around 40% of transmission is presymptomatic. Temperature-taking is pandemic theatre and only works to convince unintelligent people that the risks they are taking are "safe."
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 22:51     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
The parents and the club have both done the right thing.

Also, it is very encouraging that no other players from either team have experienced symptoms or tested positive. This is good news for transmission rates at an outdoor soccer event.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 22:47     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:Here is what I don’t understand.

The person who was positive—was he tested before the game and went ahead and played before the results came back? Wouldn’t that fail the clubs health check protocol that families are supposed to be following? Or maybe I have the wrong timeline.


No, please read the original postings. The player tested positive the day after the scrimmage with a Covid-19 rapid test. The parents notified the club the same day and the club notified both teams the same day, and quarantined both teams from all training, practice, scrimmages and games.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 22:36     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here is what I don’t understand.

The person who was positive—was he tested before the game and went ahead and played before the results came back? Wouldn’t that fail the clubs health check protocol that families are supposed to be following? Or maybe I have the wrong timeline.


Someone upthread said he was took a rapid test after the game.
And I heard the rapid test was because he was about to travel.


Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 22:27     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:Here is what I don’t understand.

The person who was positive—was he tested before the game and went ahead and played before the results came back? Wouldn’t that fail the clubs health check protocol that families are supposed to be following? Or maybe I have the wrong timeline.


Someone upthread said he was took a rapid test after the game.
And I heard the rapid test was because he was about to travel.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 22:19     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Here is what I don’t understand.

The person who was positive—was he tested before the game and went ahead and played before the results came back? Wouldn’t that fail the clubs health check protocol that families are supposed to be following? Or maybe I have the wrong timeline.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 20:58     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Arlington parent here - i have been very happy with how they have managed practices. A few outliers in terms of coaches and kids and parents - but mostly all very good (the three young DA boys who showed up for a srimmage last weekend and all slapped hands upon arrivel and then spread out 6 feet really did make me want to scratch my head though....) I think a lot is being set by tone - our coach is very good about keepng the boys spreadout when he is talking to them - which sets a good tone and example.


I wish the coach would take temperatures before practice/games and not rely on the players to self police. I really doubt every player is checking their own temperature before practice/scrimmage/games.


Fever is not always a symptom. Taking temperatures is pointless.


80% of people with coronavirus have a fever. So no it is not pointless but your post shows people like you will not comply with the simplest of instructions. I bet the kid or his parents did not test before the scrimmage/games. Now 2 teams are out for 2 weeks. Thanks! You sound like a great person.


This doesn't worry me too much. People with fevers feel pretty ill. I can see this being useful at airports for exampe where people may attempt journeys in this condition - but I can't imagine kids with fevers going to practise - they'd be feeling too sick to want to go. When I was growing up my mum had a thermometer to check that I was really ill when I wanted to skip school. I recall plenty of times when I was told that I didn't have a fever so I would be going to school. I don't recall any times where my mum needed to take my temperature to stop me going to school because I was sick but still wanted to go.


No a lot of people with a fever from coronavirus do not feel sick. When the virus gets into the chest they become very sick. Most kids go to practice feeling a little off and they will play game sick. I have seen it.

So it seems not many of the Arlington parents are checking their kids for fever before practice or games. Good to know. What other polices and rules do you feel you know better about?


I don't think you're correct here. Asympmtomatic carriers may not feel ill, but people with fevers feel ill because the fever itself is responsible for symtpoms such as muscle aches, headache, chills, lightheadeness etc.

In any event I agree with the people who point out that it's easy to take a kid's temperature and it can't do any harnm to take it, and I'm certainly not suggesting that people shouldn't take temperatures - I'm just pointing out that kids with temperatures are going to be feeling ill and very unlikely to attend practise anyway - so this is amongst the least of my worries.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2020 19:49     Subject: Arlington and coronavirus
Anonymous wrote:taking temperature is probably the easiest and least intrusive thing to do but there’re still people oppose it. For what reason, really? It takes one second per kid. One second.


I agree. The logic seems to be that if we cannot screen accurately all the time, we either stop playing or screen none of the time. I don’t really understand that at all.