Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids are free riding BIG Time. I have two kids in college. One went back. The other a freshman was going back till two weeks ago when school flipped flopped and rescinded her housing.
Out of state Students often can get an academic scholarship off tuition. They give no discount on room, board and fees that is where they nail the out of state students as can’t commute.
So now the kids who stay home pay full price room and board. But keep academic scholarship.
Other issue even if the reopen at my older daughters school they kicked the sophomore, juniors and seniors off campus. My daughter is now off campus as all her Friends. I highly doubt any it gets sophomore and juniors will go back to dorm living.
Add to madness 2020 is supposed to be a record low birth year coming off a few years of lower birth rates and we lost a ton of international students. Colleges are in trouble unless come Fall 2021 they can open business as normal!!
Me by pay no room and board. Yes I am saving a boat load in kid at home this semester.
Anonymous wrote:Kids are free riding BIG Time. I have two kids in college. One went back. The other a freshman was going back till two weeks ago when school flipped flopped and rescinded her housing.
Out of state Students often can get an academic scholarship off tuition. They give no discount on room, board and fees that is where they nail the out of state students as can’t commute.
So now the kids who stay home pay full price room and board. But keep academic scholarship.
Other issue even if the reopen at my older daughters school they kicked the sophomore, juniors and seniors off campus. My daughter is now off campus as all her Friends. I highly doubt any it gets sophomore and juniors will go back to dorm living.
Add to madness 2020 is supposed to be a record low birth year coming off a few years of lower birth rates and we lost a ton of international students. Colleges are in trouble unless come Fall 2021 they can open business as normal!!
Anonymous wrote:Kids are free riding BIG Time. I have two kids in college. One went back. The other a freshman was going back till two weeks ago when school flipped flopped and rescinded her housing.
Out of state Students often can get an academic scholarship off tuition. They give no discount on room, board and fees that is where they nail the out of state students as can’t commute.
So now the kids who stay home pay full price room and board. But keep academic scholarship.
Other issue even if the reopen at my older daughters school they kicked the sophomore, juniors and seniors off campus. My daughter is now off campus as all her Friends. I highly doubt any it gets sophomore and juniors will go back to dorm living.
Add to madness 2020 is supposed to be a record low birth year coming off a few years of lower birth rates and we lost a ton of international students. Colleges are in trouble unless come Fall 2021 they can open business as normal!!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And still paying $$$$ to “free ride”
You are not. There has been an arms race in colleges to build fancy dorms, gyms. Pools, state of the art lecture halls and restaurant quality cafeterias on campus to attract students. All fixed costs, expensive to maintain and often financed by 30 year mini bonds maintained by expensive workers often in Unions.
It is paid for by dorm fees. Meal plan costs and activity fees. Free riders distance learning students are expecting schools to maintain, pay salaries, pay bond interest to keep these dorms, classrooms, gyms, stadiums, cafeterias open so little Suzie or Johnny in 2021 or 2022 feels like coming back it is there for them.
That is a financial nightmare for schools. Plus a financial nightmare for college towns.
It is also isolating for kids staying home as they may lose their friend circle. I do have one daughter staying home. She is a freshman and has no choice her school went to DL only last minute. Her friend circle went from 13 girls to one other girl starting in two weeks. Her roommate who is also home May rent an apt near campus in Spring if still no dorm room. That is Feb in her school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And still paying $$$$ to “free ride”
You are not. There has been an arms race in colleges to build fancy dorms, gyms. Pools, state of the art lecture halls and restaurant quality cafeterias on campus to attract students. All fixed costs, expensive to maintain and often financed by 30 year mini bonds maintained by expensive workers often in Unions.
It is paid for by dorm fees. Meal plan costs and activity fees. Free riders distance learning students are expecting schools to maintain, pay salaries, pay bond interest to keep these dorms, classrooms, gyms, stadiums, cafeterias open so little Suzie or Johnny in 2021 or 2022 feels like coming back it is there for them.
That is a financial nightmare for schools. Plus a financial nightmare for college towns.
It is also isolating for kids staying home as they may lose their friend circle. I do have one daughter staying home. She is a freshman and has no choice her school went to DL only last minute. Her friend circle went from 13 girls to one other girl starting in two weeks. Her roommate who is also home May rent an apt near campus in Spring if still no dorm room. That is Feb in her school.
Anonymous wrote:And still paying $$$$ to “free ride”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You blind. Why are you describing what ignorant people did or can do legally?
Do you think I am following precautions because someone MADE me?
I am saying eating indoors with a group of strangers is ONE OF the riskiest things one can do.
You blind if you no recognize a fact when you read one.
Meet blind if you think any of the kids Are following rules. My daughter works in CVS
Mine is. She has lived with me since March, and has not gone out with friends ONCE in that time. (She has stayed connected to them via Zoom & social media). And she chose to continue her studies online this Fall, in part because she did not trust all kids to behave responsibly.
Are you in a cult, Mormon or Amish? You option is pointless and dangerous if there is never a vaccine.
You’d only realize college students who are responsible PAY for all or part of their education. My brief trip to Amherst I had HS and College kids help us at Walmart, serve us dinner at Texas Roadhouse, made me coffee at Starbucks.
So they are expected to risk their lived 24/7 to be at your beck and call to deliver pizza, door dash, Instacart, etc so you can bunker up but now you want to impose rules they must be locked up in a room in isolation and not socialize at all.
The college kids providing your services get cockier and cockier with each door dash I Instacart delivery, supermarket and Starbucks transaction to service folks bunkering.
My daughter friend back in early March got Covid as her Dad is an essential worker. He actually is a doctor. She goes out and wears her mask just so folks can feel safe.
The schools have to open up in person or go bankrupt!! Online learners are free riding.
There is no easy answer. Buts let’s not pretend for one second folks at school are bunkering up. Heck in the age of full blown Aids in early 1980s kids were hooking up in college.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You blind. Why are you describing what ignorant people did or can do legally?
Do you think I am following precautions because someone MADE me?
I am saying eating indoors with a group of strangers is ONE OF the riskiest things one can do.
You blind if you no recognize a fact when you read one.
Meet blind if you think any of the kids Are following rules. My daughter works in CVS
Mine is. She has lived with me since March, and has not gone out with friends ONCE in that time. (She has stayed connected to them via Zoom & social media). And she chose to continue her studies online this Fall, in part because she did not trust all kids to behave responsibly.
Are you in a cult, Mormon or Amish? You option is pointless and dangerous if there is never a vaccine.
You’d only realize college students who are responsible PAY for all or part of their education. My brief trip to Amherst I had HS and College kids help us at Walmart, serve us dinner at Texas Roadhouse, made me coffee at Starbucks.
So they are expected to risk their lived 24/7 to be at your beck and call to deliver pizza, door dash, Instacart, etc so you can bunker up but now you want to impose rules they must be locked up in a room in isolation and not socialize at all.
The college kids providing your services get cockier and cockier with each door dash I Instacart delivery, supermarket and Starbucks transaction to service folks bunkering.
My daughter friend back in early March got Covid as her Dad is an essential worker. He actually is a doctor. She goes out and wears her mask just so folks can feel safe.
The schools have to open up in person or go bankrupt!! Online learners are free riding.
There is no easy answer. Buts let’s not pretend for one second folks at school are bunkering up. Heck in the age of full blown Aids in early 1980s kids were hooking up in college.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope they are hosting outside parties with masks. If protests are okay, then this should be just as okay.
It makes me crazy on what the media has made okay and what is not okay.
I get it. We want Trump out. I do too but stop pretending the protests were okay.
But angry people don’t spread covid, only happy people do.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You blind. Why are you describing what ignorant people did or can do legally?
Do you think I am following precautions because someone MADE me?
I am saying eating indoors with a group of strangers is ONE OF the riskiest things one can do.
You blind if you no recognize a fact when you read one.
Meet blind if you think any of the kids Are following rules. My daughter works in CVS
Mine is. She has lived with me since March, and has not gone out with friends ONCE in that time. (She has stayed connected to them via Zoom & social media). And she chose to continue her studies online this Fall, in part because she did not trust all kids to behave responsibly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You blind. Why are you describing what ignorant people did or can do legally?
Do you think I am following precautions because someone MADE me?
I am saying eating indoors with a group of strangers is ONE OF the riskiest things one can do.
You blind if you no recognize a fact when you read one.
Meet blind if you think any of the kids Are following rules. My daughter works in CVS
Mine is. She has lived with me since March, and has not gone out with friends ONCE in that time. (She has stayed connected to them via Zoom & social media). And she chose to continue her studies online this Fall, in part because she did not trust all kids to behave responsibly.