Anonymous
Post 08/23/2020 22:45     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
I don't judge people for grocery shopping, but I do think curbside and delivery helps especially in systems like whole foods where the shoppers work for the store. It reduces the overall number of people in the store. So yes, it does help sow community spread. I think the grocery stores should try to make that available as possible.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2020 22:30     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Who cares about grocery delivery? Do ppl think that makes them better? That reduces risk zero for the population, bc instead of you shopping, you’ve got your instacart shopper getting your food who has been to 12 other stores today all over the city. You think that makes sense? Lol. Get delivery bc you want to, but the act itself is doing nothing for COVID, it’s probably marginally worse honestly.

It’s true that people are so judgmental right now, and they aren’t even logical. At all. Just cherry picking things to get on ppl about that aren’t even science.

My friend posted pictures of ppl on the beach in Chicago (banner). Saying they are why COVID isn’t over. All these ppl in her pic were outside spread apart in small familiar groups. I told her that it’s not the beach open it’s probably the BARS open in her city. People have no reasoning skills. Stupid.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2020 12:39     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:We Dh is an essential worker (ER Doctor) and never stopped working.

I find that the people who work 100% from home and can afford the crazy charges for Instacart are the most judgey about risks. They don’t HAVE to leave the house. They can pay someone to take their risks in the grocery store. The risks are too high for them, but it’s fine for the door dash driver? The amazon warehouse workers? The people in the factories actually making the toilet paper? The reason schools can’t open isn’t because some families are going to the beach. It’s because our government failed to provide good leadership when the pandemic first started. Because of the people who feel like wearing a mask in a store violates their constitutional rights (but wearing shoes doesn’t?). Because of a president who has emboldened the idiots who care more about guns and their independence than taking care of their fellow neighbors.



Agree with you.
There are many people who have the luxury of not needing to go anywhere but at the same time they judge so many other people who are going out.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2020 11:19     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everything seems ok except for the overnight visits indoors. Surprised that you think grocery shopping with a mask on is more risky than those activities unless you know 100% that all those people were FULLY locked down.


My family and my best friend's family quarantined for two weeks in our respective cities and then they came to visit us at our house, a three-hour drive (no stopping) away. During that time we ate every meal at home and did not get near anyone else. To me, that was way safer than going to a grocery store with a ton of strangers.


You can quarantine for two weeks and be asymptomatic. I’m not judging but I think the 14 day quarantine is like taking your shoes off before getting on an airplane. It makes you feel better but has no significant impact. It’s nobody’s fault except maybe our government. We need better testing.

DP. You should seek help for your anxiety. You are the kind to ruin her kids' lives, with or without covid.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2020 11:12     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everything seems ok except for the overnight visits indoors. Surprised that you think grocery shopping with a mask on is more risky than those activities unless you know 100% that all those people were FULLY locked down.


My family and my best friend's family quarantined for two weeks in our respective cities and then they came to visit us at our house, a three-hour drive (no stopping) away. During that time we ate every meal at home and did not get near anyone else. To me, that was way safer than going to a grocery store with a ton of strangers.


You can quarantine for two weeks and be asymptomatic. I’m not judging but I think the 14 day quarantine is like taking your shoes off before getting on an airplane. It makes you feel better but has no significant impact. It’s nobody’s fault except maybe our government. We need better testing.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 22:31     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:You are why we cannot open schools. Enjoy your life but don't complain about why schools aren't open.


I'd be laying a little more of that blame at the feet of the administration that dismantled the pandemic task force, and a little less at someone who is having outdoor playdates with kids.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 21:59     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
You are doing way ore than we are - trips, sports practice, etc.

We are still staying home, getting grocery delivered, not travelling, no play dates, no sports.

I have asthma.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 21:55     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We Dh is an essential worker (ER Doctor) and never stopped working.

I find that the people who work 100% from home and can afford the crazy charges for Instacart are the most judgey about risks. They don’t HAVE to leave the house. They can pay someone to take their risks in the grocery store. The risks are too high for them, but it’s fine for the door dash driver? The amazon warehouse workers? The people in the factories actually making the toilet paper? The reason schools can’t open isn’t because some families are going to the beach. It’s because our government failed to provide good leadership when the pandemic first started. Because of the people who feel like wearing a mask in a store violates their constitutional rights (but wearing shoes doesn’t?). Because of a president who has emboldened the idiots who care more about guns and their independence than taking care of their fellow neighbors.


Do the math. If essential workers are the only ones out it reduces their risk of getting covid. Beach bumb Harry and his family plus a bunch of college kids and 20 and 30 somethings partying fill up the ICU and make it more dangerous for your spouse and all essential workers because they don't get a DNR protects the lives of doctors, nurses and other caregivers.

Our government failed us massively but the idiots who put them there are NOT making it any better.


I work in an essential facility, but I am remote b/c I’m high risk. We try to reduce the aggregate risk for everyone by reducing simply the number of people who enter our facility. With groceries if one person shops for 20 families, that’s 20 vectors is possible illness removed from that store. Though I do feel Instacart is too risky for the workers so have been buying from a distributor directly from warehouse. So only the skeleton crew is interacting rather than retail customers coming in and out, which I believe should lower community risk. Does limit my choices but we went going to starve.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 21:49     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Yes by my standards. We still haven’t sent family and my sister and have not hung out with any people for any play dates. Yes it sucks but I’m an adult in a pandemic with a novel virus.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 20:59     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:We Dh is an essential worker (ER Doctor) and never stopped working.

I find that the people who work 100% from home and can afford the crazy charges for Instacart are the most judgey about risks. They don’t HAVE to leave the house. They can pay someone to take their risks in the grocery store. The risks are too high for them, but it’s fine for the door dash driver? The amazon warehouse workers? The people in the factories actually making the toilet paper? The reason schools can’t open isn’t because some families are going to the beach. It’s because our government failed to provide good leadership when the pandemic first started. Because of the people who feel like wearing a mask in a store violates their constitutional rights (but wearing shoes doesn’t?). Because of a president who has emboldened the idiots who care more about guns and their independence than taking care of their fellow neighbors.


Do the math. If essential workers are the only ones out it reduces their risk of getting covid. Beach bumb Harry and his family plus a bunch of college kids and 20 and 30 somethings partying fill up the ICU and make it more dangerous for your spouse and all essential workers because they don't get a DNR protects the lives of doctors, nurses and other caregivers.

Our government failed us massively but the idiots who put them there are NOT making it any better.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 08:07     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:Everything seems ok except for the overnight visits indoors. Surprised that you think grocery shopping with a mask on is more risky than those activities unless you know 100% that all those people were FULLY locked down.


My family and my best friend's family quarantined for two weeks in our respective cities and then they came to visit us at our house, a three-hour drive (no stopping) away. During that time we ate every meal at home and did not get near anyone else. To me, that was way safer than going to a grocery store with a ton of strangers.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 08:04     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the point of grocery order if you saw another family and stayed in a same house?
Eating out, meaning indoors and even outdoors seems like the riskiest thing to do, imo. So all good on that.


Why would taking one risk mean you should also take others? I would rather see another family than go grocery shopping, so just because I see the other family doesn't mean I am also obligated to engage in other risky activities. I mean, that's completely counterintuitive.

Imo grocery shopping with a mask on is less risky than seeing friends without masks on. And if you were in the same house, it is unlikely you all wore masks around each other. So, it is not comparable risk, one is a much higher risk than the other.


Ok, but the point remains the same. Whether or not you think two activities are equally as risky or one is riskier than the other, engaging in the riskier activity does not mean you are safe to engage in the less risky activity as well. It's not like if you can bench press 150 lbs then of course you can also bench press 75 lbs. The point is you are choosing which risky activities you are going to engage in, and there is absolutely no sense in saying that you should engage in every activity that is less risky than the riskiest one you have chosen. That's inane.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 08:01     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
We Dh is an essential worker (ER Doctor) and never stopped working.

I find that the people who work 100% from home and can afford the crazy charges for Instacart are the most judgey about risks. They don’t HAVE to leave the house. They can pay someone to take their risks in the grocery store. The risks are too high for them, but it’s fine for the door dash driver? The amazon warehouse workers? The people in the factories actually making the toilet paper? The reason schools can’t open isn’t because some families are going to the beach. It’s because our government failed to provide good leadership when the pandemic first started. Because of the people who feel like wearing a mask in a store violates their constitutional rights (but wearing shoes doesn’t?). Because of a president who has emboldened the idiots who care more about guns and their independence than taking care of their fellow neighbors.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 06:42     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
No, my family isn't doing any of those things. But we care for my 89 year old FIL and have two high risk family members. I di hate what you are doing though since all if us are going to be in lockdown ionger because you had to go to the beach three friggin times in a summer and then socialize like crazy. Would it kill you to stay at home?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2020 06:17     Subject: Am I taking too many risks?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the point of grocery order if you saw another family and stayed in a same house?
Eating out, meaning indoors and even outdoors seems like the riskiest thing to do, imo. So all good on that.


Why would taking one risk mean you should also take others? I would rather see another family than go grocery shopping, so just because I see the other family doesn't mean I am also obligated to engage in other risky activities. I mean, that's completely counterintuitive.

Imo grocery shopping with a mask on is less risky than seeing friends without masks on. And if you were in the same house, it is unlikely you all wore masks around each other. So, it is not comparable risk, one is a much higher risk than the other.


This. OP is lazy and can’t be bothered to go grocery shopping. Getting groceries delivered has nothing to do with lessening risk for her.