Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 02:06     Subject: Re:SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is nothing more challenging or important than the formative years of infancy to 3. I think all you that outsource care during those years but need to be home while they are in third grade are such a lazy bunch.


Kids will not remember you being home 0-3, but they will remember if you are home elementary-high school. Kids need you more, not less. They may be able to do more for themselves but they still need, want active and involved parents. You are lazy to think you can just stop parenting older kids. I didn't find the 0-3 very challenging and I had a special needs kid with lots of therapies so I had no choice but to stay home. I find the need is far greater later on. But, maybe if your kids don't want you around, its you. Mine want me at every school party, concert, any activity they do, etc.


Kids don’t remember 0-3, but their brains develop more during this time period than literally any other time in their lives! It’s seriously the most crucial time to connect with, teach, interact with, develop your child. Plus I will point out that a child can advocate for him or herself and rattle in a nanny or unsafe daycare situation more reliably after 3. Thank God for video cameras.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 01:58     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


No, women like this are not setting society back. Women should get the choice. I grew up in a family where my parents were really pissed when I quit. My mom was retired but hated being a mom and wouldn't help with child care (after saying she would) and my child care feel through right before I went back to work and she wouldn't help for a few weeks so I could go back. She resented me and still does for not going back but because I was home it allowed my husband to take better jobs every few years and work his way up. I could handle all the things at home and help his family when his mom needed help and us not worry. Women should have the choice if they can financially afford it. My mom hated being a mom and doing the day to day caretaking. I love it and see how it benefits my kids and husband but more importantly me. I was miserable working. I can easily keep myself busy and am far busier now than working as my focus is different. I want to raise my kids and not be raised by nannies and day care like I was.


The problem with your entire diatribe is that you confine this to women. All you talk about is you and your mom. What about your dad? What about your DH. Ask yourself why men are not asked to consider what’s best for their children when they make choices about their careers?

Sounds like you have issues wIth your mom specific to you and not to an argument about women’s advancement.

And how many men are miserable working? Quite a few I’d guess. Why do they have automatically have keep slogging?

These are questions you should have discussed with your husband before you procreated with him. My husband and I discussed this before we had children, and we decided together that I’d stay home and he would continue working. He’s fine with it. I’m fine with it. We discussed it beforehand.

I have a friend who made it clear she wouldn’t have kids if it meant having to quit working. They both had demanding careers. He decided to take an early retirement and SAH. They COMMUNICATED beforehand.

If you and your husband didn’t hash this out before doing the deed and now either of you are upset, that’s a marriage issue, not a Women’s Rights issue. It’s a communication issue.

And you act as if it would be completely typical for a miserable childless man OR woman to just quit a job they don’t like and, I don’t know, stop paying bills and become homeless, because they didn’t like working anymore? Functioning people suck it up like a grown ass adult with bills to pay until they find a better job. Some of the most miserable jobs I ever had, I had before I had kids. Guess what? I had to slug along because I had shit to pay for, so I bitched about work to my friends like a normal person and went on interviews often. What’s preventing them from doing this WITH children?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 01:50     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


You sound jealous!
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 01:43     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.

How so? If anything, I should be helping you. I’m not taking that promotion you’re seeking. How am I holding you back? How am I holding any woman back? Explain this to me, please, how MY not working is holding YOU back from a better, more high-paying, more satisfying job. I’m waiting.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 00:41     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


No, women like this are not setting society back. Women should get the choice. I grew up in a family where my parents were really pissed when I quit. My mom was retired but hated being a mom and wouldn't help with child care (after saying she would) and my child care feel through right before I went back to work and she wouldn't help for a few weeks so I could go back. She resented me and still does for not going back but because I was home it allowed my husband to take better jobs every few years and work his way up. I could handle all the things at home and help his family when his mom needed help and us not worry. Women should have the choice if they can financially afford it. My mom hated being a mom and doing the day to day caretaking. I love it and see how it benefits my kids and husband but more importantly me. I was miserable working. I can easily keep myself busy and am far busier now than working as my focus is different. I want to raise my kids and not be raised by nannies and day care like I was.


The problem with your entire diatribe is that you confine this to women. All you talk about is you and your mom. What about your dad? What about your DH. Ask yourself why men are not asked to consider what’s best for their children when they make choices about their careers?

Sounds like you have issues wIth your mom specific to you and not to an argument about women’s advancement.

And how many men are miserable working? Quite a few I’d guess. Why do they have automatically have keep slogging?


Both of my parents were the same way and both selfish but my Dad more than my Mom. My husband would love to stop working but he has higher income earning potential. My husband has always made us the priority. If I had wanted to work and we needed him to stay home, he would have gladly done it and is very good at it. My husband does a lot and I have no complaints. If your husband doesn't support you, then you have a spouse issue, not a societal issue just like I had a parent issue. Women's advancement as well as Man's should be about many factors and choices.


Nothing wrong with my spouse. These are societal issues.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 00:40     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


NP. Stop tying “society” to my choices. Please go ask your mom or grandma what the feminist movement was all about. Choice! And guess what. I’m choosing to be super happy with my life. I hope you and ALL women are happy with their life choices —and the freedom to make those choices—too.


You really don’t get it.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 00:39     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


NP. Stop tying “society” to my choices. Please go ask your mom or grandma what the feminist movement was all about. Choice! And guess what. I’m choosing to be super happy with my life. I hope you and ALL women are happy with their life choices —and the freedom to make those choices—too.


100% with you. We are not setting society back by making our own choices. You can't chain me to a stove or a desk.


OMG I’m going to use you as an example for the thread on the spoiled people. Living off someone else’s dime cause screw everyone else, you ain’t workin. What a tone-deaf, privileged thing to say.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 00:05     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


NP. Stop tying “society” to my choices. Please go ask your mom or grandma what the feminist movement was all about. Choice! And guess what. I’m choosing to be super happy with my life. I hope you and ALL women are happy with their life choices —and the freedom to make those choices—too.


100% with you. We are not setting society back by making our own choices. You can't chain me to a stove or a desk.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 00:02     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


NP. Stop tying “society” to my choices. Please go ask your mom or grandma what the feminist movement was all about. Choice! And guess what. I’m choosing to be super happy with my life. I hope you and ALL women are happy with their life choices —and the freedom to make those choices—too.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2020 00:01     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


No, women like this are not setting society back. Women should get the choice. I grew up in a family where my parents were really pissed when I quit. My mom was retired but hated being a mom and wouldn't help with child care (after saying she would) and my child care feel through right before I went back to work and she wouldn't help for a few weeks so I could go back. She resented me and still does for not going back but because I was home it allowed my husband to take better jobs every few years and work his way up. I could handle all the things at home and help his family when his mom needed help and us not worry. Women should have the choice if they can financially afford it. My mom hated being a mom and doing the day to day caretaking. I love it and see how it benefits my kids and husband but more importantly me. I was miserable working. I can easily keep myself busy and am far busier now than working as my focus is different. I want to raise my kids and not be raised by nannies and day care like I was.


The problem with your entire diatribe is that you confine this to women. All you talk about is you and your mom. What about your dad? What about your DH. Ask yourself why men are not asked to consider what’s best for their children when they make choices about their careers?

Sounds like you have issues wIth your mom specific to you and not to an argument about women’s advancement.

And how many men are miserable working? Quite a few I’d guess. Why do they have automatically have keep slogging?


Both of my parents were the same way and both selfish but my Dad more than my Mom. My husband would love to stop working but he has higher income earning potential. My husband has always made us the priority. If I had wanted to work and we needed him to stay home, he would have gladly done it and is very good at it. My husband does a lot and I have no complaints. If your husband doesn't support you, then you have a spouse issue, not a societal issue just like I had a parent issue. Women's advancement as well as Man's should be about many factors and choices.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 23:54     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


No, women like this are not setting society back. Women should get the choice. I grew up in a family where my parents were really pissed when I quit. My mom was retired but hated being a mom and wouldn't help with child care (after saying she would) and my child care feel through right before I went back to work and she wouldn't help for a few weeks so I could go back. She resented me and still does for not going back but because I was home it allowed my husband to take better jobs every few years and work his way up. I could handle all the things at home and help his family when his mom needed help and us not worry. Women should have the choice if they can financially afford it. My mom hated being a mom and doing the day to day caretaking. I love it and see how it benefits my kids and husband but more importantly me. I was miserable working. I can easily keep myself busy and am far busier now than working as my focus is different. I want to raise my kids and not be raised by nannies and day care like I was.


The problem with your entire diatribe is that you confine this to women. All you talk about is you and your mom. What about your dad? What about your DH. Ask yourself why men are not asked to consider what’s best for their children when they make choices about their careers?

Sounds like you have issues wIth your mom specific to you and not to an argument about women’s advancement.

And how many men are miserable working? Quite a few I’d guess. Why do they have automatically have keep slogging?
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 23:36     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.


No, women like this are not setting society back. Women should get the choice. I grew up in a family where my parents were really pissed when I quit. My mom was retired but hated being a mom and wouldn't help with child care (after saying she would) and my child care feel through right before I went back to work and she wouldn't help for a few weeks so I could go back. She resented me and still does for not going back but because I was home it allowed my husband to take better jobs every few years and work his way up. I could handle all the things at home and help his family when his mom needed help and us not worry. Women should have the choice if they can financially afford it. My mom hated being a mom and doing the day to day caretaking. I love it and see how it benefits my kids and husband but more importantly me. I was miserable working. I can easily keep myself busy and am far busier now than working as my focus is different. I want to raise my kids and not be raised by nannies and day care like I was.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 23:19     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

Anonymous wrote:As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!


Ugh, women like this are setting society back by decades.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 19:40     Subject: SAHMs of children entering school age

As long as we can afford it, I’m never going back.

It’s just easy. Yes, it’s afforded DH many more work opportunities and advancements, and more money. I’m OK with that. You have to be OK with that. I had a dream job I worked my ass off achieving, and some days I miss it, but never more than I love the this lifestyle.

Echoing others, logistically it just makes sense. We don’t ever worry about anything like sick days or snow days, summer vacations or... remote learning. Also, yes, you’ll be so surprised how the time gets away from you. Suddenly it’s 3:30 and you have to leave to get the kids from school in 15 minutes. I definitely keep busy and I’m never bored, but I also enjoy my own company. Introvert here!
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2020 18:14     Subject: Re:SAHMs of children entering school age

My youngest is an infant so I have a bunch of years to consider it. But over the last seven years we have bought, fixed up and sold homes for a very nice profit. I have a design degree and I know value plus I have done a good amount of the work myself. I really believe I can turn this into a nice business without it being too disruptive to our family. I can’t see myself taking a 9-5 job as it’s just not me and my husband who has long hours would not support it.