Yup. You can be a gs-15 sub skilled engineer making 150k+ with another 50k in terms of compensation. What private company pays 200k for a sub skilled engineer?

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Anonymous wrote:It's about the only place in America you can literally phone it in and still make over six figures

Sad, but true. I know professional Feds who admit they can finish their full-time job working 3-4 (sometimes less) days a week at home. What does that tell you? And they have all been promoted consistently. Yes, they may be very good at what they do, but they are also overpaid for the work they do. Think how many fewer Fed jobs would be out there if the ones we have were working 5 full days a week.

I know private sectors workers who say the same thing, and are paid much more than Feds. By the way, white collar Feds are underpaid for the work that they perform in many professions. Attorneys, doctors, accountants, statisticians, IT professionals, etc., could generally make much more outside the government. Job stability is one of the things that makes lower pay more palatable.

Yes, but I know plenty of Feds who are not in your list of professionals, have no graduate degree or advanced educational training, and are making 6 figures to work 3-4 days a week. Most of these people would have great difficulty getting a job in the private sector with their skill set for that kind of money. How do I know? I was a recruiter, and without the professional degree/certification or IT experience, no one is paying them those kinds of salaries. Their skill sets are really not transferable beyond government careers. Do you have any idea how many "program managers/analysts" the Feds employ? No one even knows what these people do.

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Anonymous wrote:It's about the only place in America you can literally phone it in and still make over six figures

Sad, but true. I know professional Feds who admit they can finish their full-time job working 3-4 (sometimes less) days a week at home. What does that tell you? And they have all been promoted consistently. Yes, they may be very good at what they do, but they are also overpaid for the work they do. Think how many fewer Fed jobs would be out there if the ones we have were working 5 full days a week.

I know private sectors workers who say the same thing, and are paid much more than Feds. By the way, white collar Feds are underpaid for the work that they perform in many professions. Attorneys, doctors, accountants, statisticians, IT professionals, etc., could generally make much more outside the government. Job stability is one of the things that makes lower pay more palatable.

Anonymous wrote:It's about the only place in America you can literally phone it in and still make over six figures

Sad, but true. I know professional Feds who admit they can finish their full-time job working 3-4 (sometimes less) days a week at home. What does that tell you? And they have all been promoted consistently. Yes, they may be very good at what they do, but they are also overpaid for the work they do. Think how many fewer Fed jobs would be out there if the ones we have were working 5 full days a week.

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Anonymous wrote:Some agencies have quotas and if you don’t meet them you can be let go.

+1

The quota based positions have the worst job security. If you miss your quota, you're gone.

That's one of the big reasons why the Patent Examiner position at USPTO stays open on usajobs for so long. They make good money, but I heard that their quotas can be crushing.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a tyrannical fed manager it isn’t great.

It sucks and it is time to go quickly.

Eh, at my agency managers usually only keep their positions for 2-3 years, then they move on. So if you have a crappy manager, you can just wait them out.

Nope mine was old and she does not know what the f she is doing. She is not going anywhere.

I quit that shit so I can live Asshole free.

Anonymous wrote:Some agencies have quotas and if you don’t meet them you can be let go.

+1

The quota based positions have the worst job security. If you miss your quota, you're gone.

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Anonymous wrote:If you have a tyrannical fed manager it isn’t great.

It sucks and it is time to go quickly.

Eh, at my agency managers usually only keep their positions for 2-3 years, then they move on. So if you have a crappy manager, you can just wait them out.

Anonymous wrote:If you have a tyrannical fed manager it isn’t great.

It sucks and it is time to go quickly.

Some agencies have quotas and if you don’t meet them you can be let go.

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Anonymous wrote:Over 32 years in 2 different agencies, I have seen 1. And that took years~~ to get rid of him.

I'm sure your 32 years of experience at 2 different agencies gives you great insight into the culture at over 200 or so federal agencies.

My statement was a factual statement. I claimed no knowledge or expertises at other agencies. Dumba$$.

Anonymous wrote:Over 32 years in 2 different agencies, I have seen 1. And that took years~~ to get rid of him.

I'm sure your 32 years of experience at 2 different agencies gives you great insight into the culture at over 200 or so federal agencies.

Over 32 years in 2 different agencies, I have seen 1. And that took years~~ to get rid of him.

Anonymous wrote:If you have a tyrannical fed manager it isn’t great.

Seems to be a common theme at DOS

People do get fired. PIP-Ed then gone.