Anonymous
07/27/2020 21:56
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Follow the money.
Always.
It tells you whether the organization is scary or funny.
OP here. Does anyone know anything about the funding of this particular group? Where one find that information?
Anonymous
07/27/2020 19:35
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Yeah, that’s not even remotely the same thing.
It's the same mentality.
NP. NO, IT IS NOT!!!
Anonymous
07/27/2020 19:30
Subject: Re:GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, I hate this. I am part of the problem, having just enrolled my child in private school.
I know why public schools are important and why having rich high-achieving kids in public school is important. We had bent over backward to stay at our public school despite some minor disadvantages to our kid. But we have just hit our limit. I still think our school is great -- but they are limited by FCPS, and FCPS has screwed up repeatedly. They have really played into the GOP talking points that public services are bad.
My spouse thinks we'll return to public school in 2021. I think we're probably in private until junior high.
I still don't support vouchers, as a policy matter.
God forbid those less fortunate be able to make the choice you did
I'm the PP you're responding to. The school provides need-based financial aid. If you want to talk about need-based vouchers, that's interesting and maybe a good idea. But vouchers tend to be pushed by the wealthy, who are in private school regardless of what it costs and just want to not pay for community schools. Somebody who does not qualify for financial aid should not be getting vouchers.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 19:20
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
A failing government system is your fault as well as mine. Running away (white parents fleeing because of desegregation) is one of the reasons the school systems are a mess. At some point we the citizens need to stop running and start fixing.
No one is going to make me keep my child in a crappy school.
Yep. Me, as an individual, keeping my kid in a crappy school isn’t changing anything. I have a bigger impact voting in politicians that choose to change the situation. No one gives 2 craps if my individual kid is in public school or not.
I’m black, and my kids are supposed to stay in crappy schools (if they are predominantly black) so that the school has a handful of success stories, even if it’s only in relation to how poorly the other students do.
Nope.
(Or should I say, I am supposed to choose a crap school. Or my parents should have. This insistence on taking care of your children the best way you can is inter-generational)
I’m the PP you’re responding to. No way should you keep your kids in a crappy school so they can be propped up as some sort of “POC success story.” Fk that sht.
Do what you need to do for *your* kids, whatever it takes.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 19:08
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
A failing government system is your fault as well as mine. Running away (white parents fleeing because of desegregation) is one of the reasons the school systems are a mess. At some point we the citizens need to stop running and start fixing.
No one is going to make me keep my child in a crappy school.
Yep. Me, as an individual, keeping my kid in a crappy school isn’t changing anything. I have a bigger impact voting in politicians that choose to change the situation. No one gives 2 craps if my individual kid is in public school or not.
I’m black, and my kids are supposed to stay in crappy schools (if they are predominantly black) so that the school has a handful of success stories, even if it’s only in relation to how poorly the other students do.
Nope.
(Or should I say, I am supposed to choose a crap school. Or my parents should have. This insistence on taking care of your children the best way you can is inter-generational)
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:57
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
A failing government system is your fault as well as mine. Running away (white parents fleeing because of desegregation) is one of the reasons the school systems are a mess. At some point we the citizens need to stop running and start fixing.
No one is going to make me keep my child in a crappy school.
Yep. Me, as an individual, keeping my kid in a crappy school isn’t changing anything. I have a bigger impact voting in politicians that choose to change the situation. No one gives 2 craps if my individual kid is in public school or not.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:57
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:School systems are doing this to themselves, they polled parents, learned preferences and then ignored those preferences.
Yep, exactly.
DH and I would SO much rather send our daughter to public school, but the public schools have gone down the tube, and well before COVID.
I was told in another thread that I only had my kids in public because I can’t afford private.
Lol.
I chose public because I went through them and saw no major problems (bad teachers seemed to stick around, but there weren’t very many of them)
I never even considered private and was surprised so many in my pyramid chose it. Well, the last few months have been instructive. I salute my public school parent friends who decided last spring that it was time to switch to private. Too late for us so we have to pod and tutor but fall 2021 is another story.
I’m the PP you’re responding to. DH and I can see the *clear* differences between the public schools we went to and MCPS, at least as far as K-8 is concerned.
Just a couple of problems, not caused by the pandemic:
- Overuse of technology
- Virtually no instruction in grammar
- Little use of phonetics to teach reading
- Little emphasis on subjects outside of reading and math
Our ES is way overcrowded and the budget cuts MCPS has been forced to take makes me skeptical that they’ll complete the remedy for that situation on schedule, meaning our kid would be in an exceptionally overcrowded school.
We’ll reevaluate as time goes on, but as far as the early ES years are concerned, we just can’t do it.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:55
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
A failing government system is your fault as well as mine. Running away (white parents fleeing because of desegregation) is one of the reasons the school systems are a mess. At some point we the citizens need to stop running and start fixing.
No one is going to make me keep my child in a crappy school.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:54
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Yeah, that’s not even remotely the same thing.
It's the same mentality.
How?
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:54
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP here. This frightens me. This right-wing group trying to encourage mass exits from our public schools.
Public school has been going "down the tubes" since desegregation. Seriously. Read the book," Education in America". The "Right" is simply protecting their investment, which is white children. That is why they are encouraging mass exit. White children's education will be privatized or homeschooled, which means they have total control over what they are taught. Think that over. What will be left in public schools are the disadvantaged, black and Hispanic children or those that are indifferent ( white BLM supporters). This ensures that white children continue to excel and advance or maintain their station in society. It makes sense and covid presented the perfect chance to so what they have been wanting to do the day desegregation occurred. Yes, I know.this may be unpleasant but life is unpleasant.
Why are white BLM supporters indifferent to education?
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:52
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:School systems are doing this to themselves, they polled parents, learned preferences and then ignored those preferences.
Yep, exactly.
DH and I would SO much rather send our daughter to public school, but the public schools have gone down the tube, and well before COVID.
I was told in another thread that I only had my kids in public because I can’t afford private.
Lol.
I chose public because I went through them and saw no major problems (bad teachers seemed to stick around, but there weren’t very many of them)
I never even considered private and was surprised so many in my pyramid chose it. Well, the last few months have been instructive. I salute my public school parent friends who decided last spring that it was time to switch to private. Too late for us so we have to pod and tutor but fall 2021 is another story.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:46
Subject: Re:GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, I hate this. I am part of the problem, having just enrolled my child in private school.
I know why public schools are important and why having rich high-achieving kids in public school is important. We had bent over backward to stay at our public school despite some minor disadvantages to our kid. But we have just hit our limit. I still think our school is great -- but they are limited by FCPS, and FCPS has screwed up repeatedly. They have really played into the GOP talking points that public services are bad.
My spouse thinks we'll return to public school in 2021. I think we're probably in private until junior high.
I still don't support vouchers, as a policy matter.
God forbid those less fortunate be able to make the choice you did
Elizabeth Warren lol.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:40
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
A failing government system is your fault as well as mine. Running away (white parents fleeing because of desegregation) is one of the reasons the school systems are a mess. At some point we the citizens need to stop running and start fixing.
FCPS just told 60% of parents their opinion doesn’t matter- best of luck the next time a bond issue or meal tax comes around
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:40
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Yeah, that’s not even remotely the same thing.
It's the same mentality.
Anonymous
07/27/2020 18:40
Subject: GOP groups taking advantage of us disgruntled parents: “Public School Exit”
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What's wrong with leaving a government run system that is failing to provide the best for your child?
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
Yeah, that’s not even remotely the same thing.
It's the same mentality.