Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:29
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:this is not the same as starting a cake business. there is a direct conflict of interest.
this is a slippery slope for publics to go down the drain. i have seen this happen in other parts of the world.. in the worst case, teacher personal interests will eventually kill education quality in the school.
It is the same. They’re both open to the public. You can choose to work there or not. You can choose to do business there or not.
Unless there are student/family incentives for using either business, there’s no conflict.
If half the class is paying the teacher's business partner, how do you think subjective grading goes? You've basically added a middleman to bribery at this point. Tutoring kids in other schools is probably fine. Tutoring kids in other classes, less so but probably ok. Forming a business with teachers in one school to tutor kids in that school seems like official corruption to me
You have no idea who they will tutor. You’re making things up in your head to be mad about.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:28
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know an LCPS ES teacher who was hired for pay during contract hours to assist my neighbor’s child with spring DL. This was an active teacher at the school also working on DL with her own class.
DURING contract hours is now a conflict of interest plus unethical.
Hopefully the tutoring company does not do this either.
Correct. And yet a teacher at our ES did this for my neighbor, and my neighbor saw nothing wrong with it, and apparently neither did the teacher.
I feel like I am talking to a toddler. Again. But: You worry about you, ok? Stop thinking it is your job to monitor others.
In order to improve the education system we need to monitor others.
Yeah, YOUR KIDS.
LOL You know you are doing something that is unethical.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:27
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:this is not the same as starting a cake business. there is a direct conflict of interest.
this is a slippery slope for publics to go down the drain. i have seen this happen in other parts of the world.. in the worst case, teacher personal interests will eventually kill education quality in the school.
It is the same. They’re both open to the public. You can choose to work there or not. You can choose to do business there or not.
Unless there are student/family incentives for using either business, there’s no conflict.
If half the class is paying the teacher's business partner, how do you think subjective grading goes? You've basically added a middleman to bribery at this point. Tutoring kids in other schools is probably fine. Tutoring kids in other classes, less so but probably ok. Forming a business with teachers in one school to tutor kids in that school seems like official corruption to me
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:27
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not sure why so many people (or is it just one or two LOUD people) on here have an issue with people getting second jobs in fields for which they are qualified.
During the contract hours of their primary job? Is your employer cool with this?
I think employers are more concerned with the productivity of their employees who work from home than what they do during their lunch/breaks.
So I’m sure the teacher told the principal all about it since obviously he/she would be cool with it? /s.
There's a lot teachers don't tell principals because it's none of their business.
Do you randomly tell your employers things? I can't imagine going out of my way to answer a question no one would care to ask-like, what do you do during your breaks at home? gtfoh
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:22
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not sure why so many people (or is it just one or two LOUD people) on here have an issue with people getting second jobs in fields for which they are qualified.
During the contract hours of their primary job? Is your employer cool with this?
Considering school hasn’t even started you have zero basis for claiming this would be during contract hours. Get a life.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:22
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Teachers can tutor anywhere or with anyone after hours as long as it isn’t one of their current students. For themselves, for tutoring companies, doesn’t matter. Many do this every year. You can’t be mad teachers hold second jobs. Nor can dictate they not.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:16
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not sure why so many people (or is it just one or two LOUD people) on here have an issue with people getting second jobs in fields for which they are qualified.
During the contract hours of their primary job? Is your employer cool with this?
I think employers are more concerned with the productivity of their employees who work from home than what they do during their lunch/breaks.
So I’m sure the teacher told the principal all about it since obviously he/she would be cool with it? /s.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:02
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not sure why so many people (or is it just one or two LOUD people) on here have an issue with people getting second jobs in fields for which they are qualified.
During the contract hours of their primary job? Is your employer cool with this?
I think employers are more concerned with the productivity of their employees who work from home than what they do during their lunch/breaks.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 12:00
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure why so many people (or is it just one or two LOUD people) on here have an issue with people getting second jobs in fields for which they are qualified.
During the contract hours of their primary job? Is your employer cool with this?
Anonymous
07/24/2020 11:57
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Not sure why so many people (or is it just one or two LOUD people) on here have an issue with people getting second jobs in fields for which they are qualified.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 11:49
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
^^^and neighbor told me the rate the teacher was charging.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 11:49
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know an ES in Fairfax County where a couple of teachers were tutoring in their classrooms right after dismissal. Not to mention other unethical practices in the same school.
Asking seriously, not snarkily, PP: Are you certain for a fact that these teachers were tutoring as a paid, outside gig at those times, in their classrooms? Many, many teachers schedule time after the school day to meet with their own or other teachers' students who need help. That is not paid tutoring on the side; it's a teacher doing the teaching job. Most teachers' school days, by the way, don't end the second the final bell rings-- many are still on the public school clock after that last bell, for a period of time, and if you walked around and spotted teachers in classrooms after dismissal working one on one with students, those teachers could still have been simply...teaching.
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NOW, with that said: If you have actual evidence these were paid private tutoring, and it was happening during the teacher's contracted hours with the school, yes, that's a problem.
Did you report this, or the other unethical practices you said were taking place?
I want to note that there's nothing to prevent a teacher tutoring on her or his own time for pay. Doing it IN school buildings would be a problem that should be nipped, but the actual act of paid tutoring if it's the teacher's own time--that's not an issue. It just isn't. They've done it forever.
Yes.
Neighbor to me: “I’m so overwhelmed with DL! Mrs. Jones (current/active teacher at our ES) is going to help Larla with schoolwork M/W/F from 1-2pm.”
Mrs. Jones was a prior teacher of Larla’s but not her current teacher.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 11:48
Subject: Re:LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
At this point, when working from home, I don’t really think tutoring during contract hours is a big deal. I just don’t know who would want to use their breaks in that way.
As long as teachers are on time for their online classes, keeping up with the grading etc, who the hell cares what they’re doing during their ‘take a deep breath’ time? Teachers in the school building could/would use this time napping, watching Netflix, texting, having personal phone calls, running errands so who tf cares what they do at home?
Do we not allow teachers to take walks in their neighborhoods during their breaks? Not allow them to smoke a cigarette? Nurse their children? Cook dinner?
As long as teachers are on time for their online classes, keeping up with the grading etc, who the hell cares what they’re doing during their ‘take a deep breath’ time? Teachers in the school building could/would use this time napping, watching Netflix, texting, having personal phone calls, running errands so who tf cares what they do at home?
Do we not allow teachers to take walks in their neighborhoods during their breaks? Not allow them to smoke a cigarette? Nurse their children? Cook dinner?
Anonymous
07/24/2020 11:44
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:I know an ES in Fairfax County where a couple of teachers were tutoring in their classrooms right after dismissal. Not to mention other unethical practices in the same school.
Asking seriously, not snarkily, PP: Are you certain for a fact that these teachers were tutoring as a paid, outside gig at those times, in their classrooms? Many, many teachers schedule time after the school day to meet with their own or other teachers' students who need help. That is not paid tutoring on the side; it's a teacher doing the teaching job. Most teachers' school days, by the way, don't end the second the final bell rings-- many are still on the public school clock after that last bell, for a period of time, and if you walked around and spotted teachers in classrooms after dismissal working one on one with students, those teachers could still have been simply...teaching.
'
NOW, with that said: If you have actual evidence these were paid private tutoring, and it was happening during the teacher's contracted hours with the school, yes, that's a problem.
Did you report this, or the other unethical practices you said were taking place?
I want to note that there's nothing to prevent a teacher tutoring on her or his own time for pay. Doing it IN school buildings would be a problem that should be nipped, but the actual act of paid tutoring if it's the teacher's own time--that's not an issue. It just isn't. They've done it forever.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 11:42
Subject: LCPS Principal started a tutoring business - isn't this a huge conflict of interest?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know an LCPS ES teacher who was hired for pay during contract hours to assist my neighbor’s child with spring DL. This was an active teacher at the school also working on DL with her own class.
DURING contract hours is now a conflict of interest plus unethical.
Hopefully the tutoring company does not do this either.
Correct. And yet a teacher at our ES did this for my neighbor, and my neighbor saw nothing wrong with it, and apparently neither did the teacher.
I feel like I am talking to a toddler. Again. But: You worry about you, ok? Stop thinking it is your job to monitor others.
In order to improve the education system we need to monitor others.
Yeah, YOUR KIDS.