Anonymous wrote:149 wisc:
- was it submitted in appeal only?
- how old was it?
- who performed it?
- was it performed in person?
- did the report say anything about it being unreliable?

It was submitted for appeal only. Just took it in June. A private practice in Old Town. Reputable. (We are not interested in inflated numbers. Others I know had their kids take WISC with this practice. Scores were for them were not in the same range.) Performed in person. Report was all positive. Not even a hint of red flags. The psychologist also noted to us separately that based on her experience, it is rare for a child to score this high in the first place. But even more rare for a child to get scores across the subsections.

149 wisc:
- was it submitted in appeal only?
- how old was it?
- who performed it?
- was it performed in person?
- did the report say anything about it being unreliable?

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Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters

Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)

No words. Beyond frustrated.

I am the poster with this result. Thank you to the OPs for your sentiments. Beyond the test scores alone, my child had produced really great work samples. Also, the recommendations were stellar (2 from language teachers who have taught her for 2-3 years straight - my child likes learning new languages). I am just flabbergasted. Also, I think it's important to share this information even if like this so that others know. This really really seems wrong to me. If anyone has any constructive ideas about how I can try to address this or even raise awareness, I would welcome input.

I would contact your AART to discuss. Maybe he/she could reach out to the AAP committee. At a minimum, your child should receive principal placement in local AAP. With a 149 wisc, your child is clearly gifted. It is ridiculous that this process is subjective to the point where clearly qualified children are rejected. I posted above about my dd getting in with much lower test scores (and I just supplemented with the questionnaire and more work samples). Your kid clearly deserved an acceptance more than mine. We got notice of principal placement before the appeals were even due, so maybe there is lots of room in AAP in our school, and no room at yours (not that that would excuse rejection in your case IMO).

For the parents whose kids were not accepted: What did your child's Teacher say at conferences? Did what they say at Conferences line up with what was written in the GBRSs?

Because I get the feeling that the lower GBRSs should not be a surprise and are things that the parents should have been hearing so they could talk to their kids and work on the child's performance in the classroom?

We had 3C and 1F. The comment in the 1F was not a surprise, it had to do with DS struggle to write complex thoughts although he was very strong at verbally explaining advanced thoughts. It is something we had been working on because his teacher mentioned it at the Conference. Actually, all of his Teachers have mentioned his struggle with writing.

I guess I am trying to figure out if there has been an issue in the classroom with a child that prevented higher GBRSs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters

Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)

No words. Beyond frustrated.

I am the poster with this result. Thank you to the OPs for your sentiments. Beyond the test scores alone, my child had produced really great work samples. Also, the recommendations were stellar (2 from language teachers who have taught her for 2-3 years straight - my child likes learning new languages). I am just flabbergasted. Also, I think it's important to share this information even if like this so that others know. This really really seems wrong to me. If anyone has any constructive ideas about how I can try to address this or even raise awareness, I would welcome input.

Email back and request an re-evaluation. If enough of us do, they might get the message that they were a bit insane this year.

Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters

Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)

No words. Beyond frustrated.

I am the poster with this result. Thank you to the OPs for your sentiments. Beyond the test scores alone, my child had produced really great work samples. Also, the recommendations were stellar (2 from language teachers who have taught her for 2-3 years straight - my child likes learning new languages). I am just flabbergasted. Also, I think it's important to share this information even if like this so that others know. This really really seems wrong to me. If anyone has any constructive ideas about how I can try to address this or even raise awareness, I would welcome input.

I am simply emailing back and asking for a reevaluation. Please do the same and post that you did. I have to think there is some sort of mistake given the scores posted here.

Is it something parents get together and ask for reevaluation? May be sign a petition or something for this? Please share who all will be interested and any suggestions?

This is ridiculous. We need to demand a re-evaluation. This year of all years they should have not been so off the mark.

One of my dc scores well below a lot of these unaccepted files and had a minimal teacher rec and he was accepted on appeal last year. I am appalled that so many of these dc who obviously qualify were not accepted. I would seriously be calling the principal, the AAP office, the instructional superintendents office and so in. 149 wisc rejected, are you kidding me?!?!

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Anonymous wrote:I am the post with 140 wisc score and rejection. Do you know a good education attorney that I can contact for consultation?

Just curious as to what a good education attorney could do for a case like this?

Nothing. It takes ages to get anything with an attorney for a kid with an IEP. I have never heard of someone suing over AAP.

Anonymous wrote:DC didn't get in:
COGAT 136 (Quantitative 139)
NNAT 135
WISC 132 (VCI 136)
We submitted the WISC, work samples and recommendation letter.
We are honored to be in the same company as some of the other rejection cases that we're seeing here.

PP with a high WISC whose DC was not accepted. Well said and ditto. Congratulations to all those accepted.

I'll just say that it's unsettling when your kid starts school, you see the curriculum and are horrified at the way that they're not teaching your kid anything, then people tell you to tough it out for a couple of years until AAP starts and it will be all better, only to be horrified once more when the AAP committee tells you that you're kid isn't good enough for reasons which are nebulous and don't coincide with logic. And the whole time you have to listen to your DC tell youb about how everything is too easy and other kids make fun of them because they know stuff.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC didn't get in:
COGAT 136 (Quantitative 139)
NNAT 135
WISC 132 (VCI 136)
We submitted the WISC, work samples and recommendation letter.
We are honored to be in the same company as some of the other rejection cases that we're seeing here.

Looks like the GBRS was low...

The kid passed the cutoff in every level, so the subjective thinking of one teacher shouldn't be a justification for non-acceptance to the program. It's true that some kids may be gifted but that it might not reflect on the tests - in that case the input from the teacher matters. But if on the other hand a teacher is not able to parse a child's "this is so obvious I don't know what there is to explain" for what it is, it means that the child is precisely the type which AAP is meant for. The kind of holistic acceptance methods that we're seeing opens the door for the sort of subjectivity which includes discrimination and racism.

Anonymous wrote:DC didn't get in:
COGAT 136 (Quantitative 139)
NNAT 135
WISC 132 (VCI 136)
We submitted the WISC, work samples and recommendation letter.
We are honored to be in the same company as some of the other rejection cases that we're seeing here.

Looks like the GBRS was low...