Anonymous wrote:W 3 is desperate for more school capacity. And this is one of the only possible locations.

But that location is a transportation nightmare.

Anonymous wrote:I hate Grosso and can’t wait for his exit but does he actually have a point here?

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Anonymous wrote:Move the Hardy kids to the new GDS campus and alleviate over crowding at deal-move some schools that serve Deal to Hardy?

That was my assumption. It's geographically awkward -- although PP that made the point about the bus lines -- buses can be moved.

Based on geography alone, it would make sense that we'd see Key, Hyde-Addison, and Mann go to the new MS.
Stoddert, Eaton, Hearst and Bancroft to Hardy, plus any Oyster kids that didn't want to go on to Adams.
Janney, Lafayette, Murch and Shepherd to Deal.

BUT that only moves Hearst and Bancroft out of Deal, which doesn't help much -- Hearst is small (50 kids per class) and won't really make a dent.

Maybe it would be better as a high school? Route ONLY Deal to Wilson, and route Hardy to a new HS?

I mean this is radical but it seems to me we need to split up the 2 biggest schools Janney and Lafayette from Deal -Stoddert to the new GDS site and then Janney to Hardy.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Yup - the big Ward 3 crises is the HS capacity. A new middle school in a lousy location will do nothing to resolve that issue and could make it worse if that new MS fills up with OOB kids since it won't be utilized unless they wildly re-draw boundaries eg Mann gets moved there.

Moving Lafayette and Shepherd to McFarland & Roosevelt would solve the Wilson capacity issue and would not require building a new school or DCPS awkwardly re-drawing all of the WOTP boundaries.

The kids from Shepherd would have a decidedly shorter trip to school and even the Lafayette kids wouldn't really have a much longer trip. And in any case it would require a lot less travel than will be required for kids going to a school in a hard to reach corner of DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Yup - the big Ward 3 crises is the HS capacity. A new middle school in a lousy location will do nothing to resolve that issue and could make it worse if that new MS fills up with OOB kids since it won't be utilized unless they wildly re-draw boundaries eg Mann gets moved there.

Moving Lafayette and Shepherd to McFarland & Roosevelt would solve the Wilson capacity issue and would not require building a new school or DCPS awkwardly re-drawing all of the WOTP boundaries.

The kids from Shepherd would have a decidedly shorter trip to school and even the Lafayette kids wouldn't really have a much longer trip. And in any case it would require a lot less travel than will be required for kids going to a school in a hard to reach corner of DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Yup - the big Ward 3 crises is the HS capacity. A new middle school in a lousy location will do nothing to resolve that issue and could make it worse if that new MS fills up with OOB kids since it won't be utilized unless they wildly re-draw boundaries eg Mann gets moved there.

Moving Lafayette and Shepherd to McFarland & Roosevelt would solve the Wilson capacity issue and would not require building a new school or DCPS awkwardly re-drawing all of the WOTP boundaries.

The kids from Shepherd would have a decidedly shorter trip to school and even the Lafayette kids wouldn't really have a much longer trip. And in any case it would require a lot less travel than will be required for kids going to a school in a hard to reach corner of DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.

It makes sense to pull Lafayette and Shepherd out of the feeder pattern at the same time. Frees up space at Deal and simultaneously creates a third by-right DCPS MS with a high SES cohort. We should be trying to grow the pie here, not keep arguing over what order the slices are handed out to the same few people every year.

Anonymous wrote:Janney, Murch and Hearst are the closest elementary schools to Deal. Doesn't make sense to move those kids to another MS. These are the kids within walking distance of Deal.

It only makes sense if you are also going to shift these schools' boundaries. For example, the kids in the western-most part within Janney's boundaries might be moved to Mann, kids from Hearst's souther-most boundary to Eaton, etc. Then these kids flow out of the Deal-Wilson feeder too.

It makes sense to build a second middle school further north, close to Lafayette. Maybe even on the park grounds. They have enough kids to fill a middle school and could lottery out the rest of the seats to those in other parts of the city.