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Anonymous wrote:I was at university of Delaware this week. Kids taking summer classes were still there even though campus closed.

They have this wonderful Main Street right off campus and kids often have year round leases and jobs. I can only imagine when school starts in person will be hard to fully stop and go to DL and add a lot of value as a lot of kids won’t leave

The "Value" is that schools are not responsible for the students who are living off campus. They do not have to feed them or house them. If schools close campus down, their staff do not need to work and place themselves at risk.

But U of D is going back. Inviting all students and have a remote option.

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Anonymous wrote:WPI is going back. All students. Mix of remote and in-person classes. You can do all remote if you choose. Took over hotels to make all dorms single with some double. Most sophomores, juniors, and seniors live off campus in apartments. Health fees doubled but Covid tests will be covered for all students.

Holy Cross, UVM, Williams, Middleburry, UMass, Purdue, Boston College, Colby BU, Northeastern, Bates all going back.

Purdue already has 1000 kids on campus. 3 tested positive are asymptomatic and self isolating.

Many of those colleges you mentioned are in MA which I think has a more realistic outlook compared to here.

Massachusetts stats:




Maryland stats:




However, the idea of all those students returning to the Boston area from all around the country in a month? I don't think that will end well. Thread here:

Most NE schools are going back, not just Mass. I think it is a great idea. Most of these college towns and businesses will go out of business permanently if they don’t. Most classes are still virtual. Strong orders are in place. I much rather the college kids get it while around each other than sitting home, heading out and going back and giving it to Mom and Dad. Grandma, etc.. You are just NOT a going to keep young 20 year olds home bound for another 6 months. We can already see that. They know they aren’t dying. It’s a sad reality.

Anonymous wrote:WPI is going back. All students. Mix of remote and in-person classes. You can do all remote if you choose. Took over hotels to make all dorms single with some double. Most sophomores, juniors, and seniors live off campus in apartments. Health fees doubled but Covid tests will be covered for all students.

Holy Cross, UVM, Williams, Middleburry, UMass, Purdue, Boston College, Colby BU, Northeastern, Bates all going back.

Purdue already has 1000 kids on campus. 3 tested positive are asymptomatic and self isolating.

Many of those colleges you mentioned are in MA which I think has a more realistic outlook compared to here.

Massachusetts stats:




Maryland stats:




However, the idea of all those students returning to the Boston area from all around the country in a month? I don't think that will end well. Thread here:

Anonymous wrote:I was at university of Delaware this week. Kids taking summer classes were still there even though campus closed.

They have this wonderful Main Street right off campus and kids often have year round leases and jobs. I can only imagine when school starts in person will be hard to fully stop and go to DL and add a lot of value as a lot of kids won’t leave

The "Value" is that schools are not responsible for the students who are living off campus. They do not have to feed them or house them. If schools close campus down, their staff do not need to work and place themselves at risk.

Anonymous wrote:MIT and Harvard are online. Fairly sure that JHU is online also. Georgetown is freshman and seniors who have to be there for labs on campus only.

Honestly, wouldn't you be following MIT and Harvard, of all places?

That’s a gotcha question because school are so different. Yes, they are educational leaders. They are near big cities, they have a lot of resources, Mass has things well under control.

Harvard is inviting freshmen and some other students on campus for a residential experience. If I were president of an SEC school in a state with uncontrolled spread, aid close campus. They can’t get liable testing even if they could pay for it, and the frat/ football scene at these schools is going to guarantee massive spread.

A well resourced SLAC in a rural area with strong testing protocol in place might stand a chance, especially since class sizes tend to be small. The issue is whether they can convince the students to follow guidelines.

I was at university of Delaware this week. Kids taking summer classes were still there even though campus closed.

They have this wonderful Main Street right off campus and kids often have year round leases and jobs. I can only imagine when school starts in person will be hard to fully stop and go to DL and add a lot of value as a lot of kids won’t leave

WPI is going back. All students. Mix of remote and in-person classes. You can do all remote if you choose. Took over hotels to make all dorms single with some double. Most sophomores, juniors, and seniors live off campus in apartments. Health fees doubled but Covid tests will be covered for all students.

Holy Cross, UVM, Williams, Middleburry, UMass, Purdue, Boston College, Colby BU, Northeastern, Bates all going back.

Purdue already has 1000 kids on campus. 3 tested positive are asymptomatic and self isolating.

Anonymous wrote:MIT and Harvard are online. Fairly sure that JHU is online also. Georgetown is freshman and seniors who have to be there for labs on campus only.

Honestly, wouldn't you be following MIT and Harvard, of all places?

Seniors at MIT are going back. And those that do research will be allowed back as well. Many kids will be in apartments off campus as well.

Anonymous wrote:MIT and Harvard are online. Fairly sure that JHU is online also. Georgetown is freshman and seniors who have to be there for labs on campus only.

Honestly, wouldn't you be following MIT and Harvard, of all places?

Harvard has 40% of undergrads back on campus I think. Classes mostly on line but clinical labs are in person.

Any insights into WashU fall plans?

Anonymous wrote:MIT and Harvard are online. Fairly sure that JHU is online also. Georgetown is freshman and seniors who have to be there for labs on campus only.

Honestly, wouldn't you be following MIT and Harvard, of all places?

Hopkins is in person with a mix of remote and in person classes.

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Anonymous wrote:SCAD just rescinded their in person plans and made theirs online. Also took 30% of the kids scholarships to boot. Also no discount for online classes. I would imagine they're about to see quite a high drop out rate.

Were they rescinding the portion that would have helped reduce housing/food costs? I’m assuming no housing/food costs since the kids will be home?

Most colleges do NOT offer a tuition decrease for online, because you either want the degree from that school, or not. Makes sense.

I agree with that, but I think they should either not charge R&B or significantly reduce the COA if all virtual. Are there any ramifications for privates

Anonymous wrote:Lehigh has rolled back its tuition increase.

Because of the economic impact of the pandemic on families across the country, Lehigh will hold tuition at the 2019-2020 rate and reverse the increase that we announced in the Spring. Tuition will be $54,790 rather than $56,980.

Lehigh is still currently planning on having students on campus. They cited economic impact on families due to covid as the reason to roll back the tuition increase, but I am wondering if it is just an attempt to butter everyone up before announcing the move to all online.

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Anonymous wrote:SCAD just rescinded their in person plans and made theirs online. Also took 30% of the kids scholarships to boot. Also no discount for online classes. I would imagine they're about to see quite a high drop out rate.

Were they rescinding the portion that would have helped reduce housing/food costs? I’m assuming no housing/food costs since the kids will be home?

Most colleges do NOT offer a tuition decrease for online, because you either want the degree from that school, or not. Makes sense.

MIT and Harvard are online. Fairly sure that JHU is online also. Georgetown is freshman and seniors who have to be there for labs on campus only.

Honestly, wouldn't you be following MIT and Harvard, of all places?