Anonymous
Post 07/15/2020 16:08     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Anonymous wrote:Jeff Cup is happening next month. If it goes off without issues then others will follow. My DD team is going. We have hotel reservations in place


You mean the Jefferson Cup Summer Event? It’s not jeff cup. Today is the dead line. Hopefully they will post teams tomorrow.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2020 14:20     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Jeff Cup is happening next month. If it goes off without issues then others will follow. My DD team is going. We have hotel reservations in place
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2020 14:16     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Anonymous wrote:Honestly I do not understand why this is important to people in a world wide pandemic.

Gathering at any sporting events can cause mass infection.

How selfish and obtuse can people be to elevate risk and death for others? Do you not understand how this virus can have permanent damage on the body, including kids?

Your behavior is appalling.


Do you leave your home at all?
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2020 14:13     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Anonymous wrote:Getting back on topic. I could see tournaments happening if they dont allow out of state teams specifically from states with rising cases. So a DMV tournament with DMV teams I think could be possible. Obviously following all safety protocols. Just throwing that out as an idea...dont go crazy.


Obviously following all safely protocols?
So they'll be playing tournaments where all players need to stay six feet apart?
Can't wait!
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2020 12:54     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Honestly I do not understand why this is important to people in a world wide pandemic.

Gathering at any sporting events can cause mass infection.

How selfish and obtuse can people be to elevate risk and death for others? Do you not understand how this virus can have permanent damage on the body, including kids?

Your behavior is appalling.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 23:04     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
^ whole not hole.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 21:50     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Getting back on topic. I could see tournaments happening if they dont allow out of state teams specifically from states with rising cases. So a DMV tournament with DMV teams I think could be possible. Obviously following all safety protocols. Just throwing that out as an idea...dont go crazy.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 12:23     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
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Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that the pro leagues in Europe are playing and not having a lot of issues. That gives some hope and something to point to. I actually now think that if high school cancels all fall sports that travel sports may continue and thrive as the only athletic, competitive outlet for youth. Maybe not football, but all the rest. Saw girls playing a softball game the other day, baseball and soccer practices, etc. maybe this will just end up being the death knell for HS sports and everything moves to travel where there is more freedom and choice and less govt. involvement and risk.


Europe is now enjoying their dessert because they ate their vegetables. We have not done what is necessary to be in a place where pro leagues can play properly.



Europe will go back through this in the winter. Don’t kid yourself. This isn’t the brownie/cookie test. You think the virus cannot return in full to Europe when they lift lockdown? Nobody I know in Europe thinks they are eating dessert right now.


In fact, there is an emerging argument that we can get to herd immunity faster proceeding as we do now (though some states and individuals must certainly do better). New articles suggesting that you can hit herd immunity at much lower percentages with this virus so long as some distancing and restrictions remain in place (no bars, sporting events, concerts). Yes, I know all the nonsense about the absence of definitive proof about immunity after infection but I have not seen any convincing evidence to the contrary, and if there were, it’s hard to understand the vaccine efforts.


Per a report out a few days ago, only about 1% of the US population is infected. So it will take a heck of a long time to get herd immunity.


Currently known infected, yes. You are ignoring those already infected and recovered as well as many who were never tested. Estimates range up to 10 times number of known infections. If 20-30% is the threshold, and if the actual infections are significantly higher than known infections, we will get there pretty fast. The dramatic declines in cases in NY suggest something like this.


You are dumb and people who think like are why we are still in the mess we are while the rest of the world, who acknowledged the threat and took proper steps to communicated and mitigate the risks are going about their lives right now.

If you want to get back to normal stop quoting stupid lines like "only 1% fatality" as if mortality was the only issue with this virus.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 12:17     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that the pro leagues in Europe are playing and not having a lot of issues. That gives some hope and something to point to. I actually now think that if high school cancels all fall sports that travel sports may continue and thrive as the only athletic, competitive outlet for youth. Maybe not football, but all the rest. Saw girls playing a softball game the other day, baseball and soccer practices, etc. maybe this will just end up being the death knell for HS sports and everything moves to travel where there is more freedom and choice and less govt. involvement and risk.


The European pro leagues just started, and we don't really know if they are having issues yet. Also, Europe has done a much better job of stopping community spread.


They are testing two times a week. This will not happen in travel soccer. MLB can not get the test back in a timely manor.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 11:57     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that the pro leagues in Europe are playing and not having a lot of issues. That gives some hope and something to point to. I actually now think that if high school cancels all fall sports that travel sports may continue and thrive as the only athletic, competitive outlet for youth. Maybe not football, but all the rest. Saw girls playing a softball game the other day, baseball and soccer practices, etc. maybe this will just end up being the death knell for HS sports and everything moves to travel where there is more freedom and choice and less govt. involvement and risk.


The European pro leagues just started, and we don't really know if they are having issues yet. Also, Europe has done a much better job of stopping community spread.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 11:35     Subject: Re:Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
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Anonymous wrote:The best answer would be to refocus tournaments to be local--no hotels, no "travel". This may not be possible in Chattanooga, where there aren't enough local teams. But it is absolutely possible in the DC Metro Area. It would mean both shrinking and expanding the field. Shrinking, obviously, in that there's no teams from outside the area. Expanding, in that you need want (close to) all local clubs to participate. For example, the Bethesda and Potomac tournaments are huge, attract teams from all over the East Coast. But many local clubs don't participate--they don't participate in each other's tournaments and (now former) DA teams didn't participate.

In short, use these tournaments to renew the bonds of local clubs that have been broken by the tangle of leagues and historical beefs.


Even better, just set up friendlies with local competition that is on par with each team. Tournaments are only good for generating money for the provider - the actual playing experience is almost always subpar. Any decent coach should have no problem picking up the phone and setting up local games. Collect a few bucks for referees, and you can have quality development and playing events for a fraction of the cost teams pay for tournaments.


But we're FCV. There are no local teams on par with us.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 11:23     Subject: Re:Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
You ask if it's realistic to plan on tournaments this Fall. Can I ask how you plan for a Fall tournament in July? If it's by training, then sure train. If it's be registering for them, then sure register. OBGC is taking registrations for Labor Day tournament. If you are asking if they will be allowed or if there will be enough interest....noone frickin knows. Ask in the Fall. geez.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 11:13     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
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Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that the pro leagues in Europe are playing and not having a lot of issues. That gives some hope and something to point to. I actually now think that if high school cancels all fall sports that travel sports may continue and thrive as the only athletic, competitive outlet for youth. Maybe not football, but all the rest. Saw girls playing a softball game the other day, baseball and soccer practices, etc. maybe this will just end up being the death knell for HS sports and everything moves to travel where there is more freedom and choice and less govt. involvement and risk.


Europe is now enjoying their dessert because they ate their vegetables. We have not done what is necessary to be in a place where pro leagues can play properly.



Europe will go back through this in the winter. Don’t kid yourself. This isn’t the brownie/cookie test. You think the virus cannot return in full to Europe when they lift lockdown? Nobody I know in Europe thinks they are eating dessert right now.


In fact, there is an emerging argument that we can get to herd immunity faster proceeding as we do now (though some states and individuals must certainly do better). New articles suggesting that you can hit herd immunity at much lower percentages with this virus so long as some distancing and restrictions remain in place (no bars, sporting events, concerts). Yes, I know all the nonsense about the absence of definitive proof about immunity after infection but I have not seen any convincing evidence to the contrary, and if there were, it’s hard to understand the vaccine efforts.


Per a report out a few days ago, only about 1% of the US population is infected. So it will take a heck of a long time to get herd immunity.


Currently known infected, yes. You are ignoring those already infected and recovered as well as many who were never tested. Estimates range up to 10 times number of known infections. If 20-30% is the threshold, and if the actual infections are significantly higher than known infections, we will get there pretty fast. The dramatic declines in cases in NY suggest something like this.


You are right. There are so many unknowns including the number of infected people right now.

Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 10:15     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:What is interesting is that the pro leagues in Europe are playing and not having a lot of issues. That gives some hope and something to point to. I actually now think that if high school cancels all fall sports that travel sports may continue and thrive as the only athletic, competitive outlet for youth. Maybe not football, but all the rest. Saw girls playing a softball game the other day, baseball and soccer practices, etc. maybe this will just end up being the death knell for HS sports and everything moves to travel where there is more freedom and choice and less govt. involvement and risk.


Europe is now enjoying their dessert because they ate their vegetables. We have not done what is necessary to be in a place where pro leagues can play properly.



Europe will go back through this in the winter. Don’t kid yourself. This isn’t the brownie/cookie test. You think the virus cannot return in full to Europe when they lift lockdown? Nobody I know in Europe thinks they are eating dessert right now.


In fact, there is an emerging argument that we can get to herd immunity faster proceeding as we do now (though some states and individuals must certainly do better). New articles suggesting that you can hit herd immunity at much lower percentages with this virus so long as some distancing and restrictions remain in place (no bars, sporting events, concerts). Yes, I know all the nonsense about the absence of definitive proof about immunity after infection but I have not seen any convincing evidence to the contrary, and if there were, it’s hard to understand the vaccine efforts.


Per a report out a few days ago, only about 1% of the US population is infected. So it will take a heck of a long time to get herd immunity.


Currently known infected, yes. You are ignoring those already infected and recovered as well as many who were never tested. Estimates range up to 10 times number of known infections. If 20-30% is the threshold, and if the actual infections are significantly higher than known infections, we will get there pretty fast. The dramatic declines in cases in NY suggest something like this.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2020 09:58     Subject: Do you think its realistic to plan on tournaments this fall?
Both Jeff Cup tournaments will be taking place. Application deadline/confirmation is actually tomorrow. Word is that a small amount of teams (mostly in the DMV) have withdrawn but will still be a large tournament both Friendlies and Fall Kickoff.