Ugly as hell. I literally laughed my ass off the first time I saw one. Now I just roll my eyes. It's about as attractive as an Aztec or Juke.

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't the prettiest truck ever, but if you want a convertible, manual transmission truck, you convince yourself pretty quickly that you can live with it.

Uh, why wouldn't you just get a pickup with a second row? Those have been around for a long time. If you don't like pickups, then you won't like them, but if you don't mind a pickup, then they are exponentially less awful than this mutation.

Well, I guess one thing is that that fugly Jeep is cheaper than the "luxury" second row pickups.

No way. Jeeps are more expensive than most trucks. We're getting a Gladiator Rubicon and it's 50k. You don't want the base model because they come with absolutely nothing. The Gladiator sports look cheaper.

Most of the second-row trucks that are being marketed as family haulers are way more than 50k.

Which mid-size truck is way more than $50k? Decked out Rubicon gladiators run $64k. They are really expensive, but pretty cool considering you get all the fun of a Jeep plus more.

Most of the trucks being marketed as family haulers are full sized. If you look at the trucks at dealerships, there are plenty of 70k and 80k options that are being aimed at suburban dads--the male version of those mom SUVs. A loaded Denali runs you about 70,000. The prices of trucks have gone up in recent years as they started making versions that are really meant as luxury family haulers and not work vehicles.

I’m not the PP that brought up prices, but I feel like this is an unfair comparison. The gladiator is a midsize truck and is not marketed as a family hauler is any advertisement I have ever seen. The gladiator doesn’t even seem like an alternative for someone considering a Denali. I’m sure there are trucks that cost 80k, but I’m not really sure why or how that applies to the topic at hand.

Its not advertised as a family hauler but it would work fine but it would be tight with no truck and room for kids stuff except in the bed. Any decent SUV I looked at as a family hauler was $40-50K new and I wasn't going for fancy.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, you people know nothing about truck prices. I bought my F150 with nice trim and a towing package 10 years ago and it was around 50k then.

A nice jeep generally costs less than a nice truck because if you want a truck that is also a nice family/commuting ride (while still performing like a pickup), the combination will cost you a decent amount.

No, a decent Wrangler for towing is the Rubicon and its generally $45-60K depending on options and how well you negotiate. Other Jeeps that can handle the towing are around $50K as well. Most Rubicons are about $50K new.

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't the prettiest truck ever, but if you want a convertible, manual transmission truck, you convince yourself pretty quickly that you can live with it.

Uh, why wouldn't you just get a pickup with a second row? Those have been around for a long time. If you don't like pickups, then you won't like them, but if you don't mind a pickup, then they are exponentially less awful than this mutation.

Well, I guess one thing is that that fugly Jeep is cheaper than the "luxury" second row pickups.

No way. Jeeps are more expensive than most trucks. We're getting a Gladiator Rubicon and it's 50k. You don't want the base model because they come with absolutely nothing. The Gladiator sports look cheaper.

Most of the second-row trucks that are being marketed as family haulers are way more than 50k.

Which mid-size truck is way more than $50k? Decked out Rubicon gladiators run $64k. They are really expensive, but pretty cool considering you get all the fun of a Jeep plus more.

Most of the trucks being marketed as family haulers are full sized. If you look at the trucks at dealerships, there are plenty of 70k and 80k options that are being aimed at suburban dads--the male version of those mom SUVs. A loaded Denali runs you about 70,000. The prices of trucks have gone up in recent years as they started making versions that are really meant as luxury family haulers and not work vehicles.

I’m not the PP that brought up prices, but I feel like this is an unfair comparison. The gladiator is a midsize truck and is not marketed as a family hauler is any advertisement I have ever seen. The gladiator doesn’t even seem like an alternative for someone considering a Denali. I’m sure there are trucks that cost 80k, but I’m not really sure why or how that applies to the topic at hand.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, you people know nothing about truck prices. I bought my F150 with nice trim and a towing package 10 years ago and it was around 50k then.

A nice jeep generally costs less than a nice truck because if you want a truck that is also a nice family/commuting ride (while still performing like a pickup), the combination will cost you a decent amount.

Right but there are lots of people upthread thinking you can get a comparable pickup for less and that just isn't true. I would never buy this Jeep because I actually haul things with my truck, but even a baseline F350 is pricey. My pickup is my family and haul vehicle, so I like the bells and whistles. I am driving mine into the ground and then buying used, as a new one like mine is outrageous now.

My four-door crew cab Silverado is 8 years old but it was 50s when it was new. And that was 8 years ago! (I bought it used.)

And even though it had a decent number of options and was a four-door, it wasn't like the top High Country trim or a limited edition trim.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, you people know nothing about truck prices. I bought my F150 with nice trim and a towing package 10 years ago and it was around 50k then.

A nice jeep generally costs less than a nice truck because if you want a truck that is also a nice family/commuting ride (while still performing like a pickup), the combination will cost you a decent amount.

Right but there are lots of people upthread thinking you can get a comparable pickup for less and that just isn't true. I would never buy this Jeep because I actually haul things with my truck, but even a baseline F350 is pricey. My pickup is my family and haul vehicle, so I like the bells and whistles. I am driving mine into the ground and then buying used, as a new one like mine is outrageous now.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, you people know nothing about truck prices. I bought my F150 with nice trim and a towing package 10 years ago and it was around 50k then.

A nice jeep generally costs less than a nice truck because if you want a truck that is also a nice family/commuting ride (while still performing like a pickup), the combination will cost you a decent amount.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, you people know nothing about truck prices. I bought my F150 with nice trim and a towing package 10 years ago and it was around 50k then.

What were they thinking?

Wow, you people know nothing about truck prices. I bought my F150 with nice trim and a towing package 10 years ago and it was around 50k then.

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't the prettiest truck ever, but if you want a convertible, manual transmission truck, you convince yourself pretty quickly that you can live with it.

Uh, why wouldn't you just get a pickup with a second row? Those have been around for a long time. If you don't like pickups, then you won't like them, but if you don't mind a pickup, then they are exponentially less awful than this mutation.

Maybe you're not understanding that pp. It's a convertible like all Jeeps. The roof comes off or folds down. No other truck does that.

All jeeps don't have the top coming off and no one calls it a convertible. Only Wranglers tops come off. They also have the sky touch roof.

Anonymous wrote:Yikes. Tell him to get a real pickup, or a real Jeep. That's just... bad

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We are a Jeep loving family and have a Wrangler. Most people in the Jeep groups have a love/hate relationship with them. I don't get why you'd get one over a Wrangler. I would think if you want the features of a Wrangler get a Wrangler and get a different brand pick up truck. If you are doing off roading the longer wheel base can be an issue so research them well and get on some of the jeep groups. There are much much better pick up trucks with better features. I love our Wrangler and we'll probably get a second (we love it that much) at some point but this would be a hard no for me with the longer wheel base and off roading and for the cost/features it doesn't make sense over a regular pick up truck. If he is asking for a Wrangler, I'd say yes in a heartbeat. I wanted one, my spouse said get what I want but not their first choice. Got one and they drive it more than I do and want their own. They are fun, great vehicles but the gladiator only makes sense for some off roading and not as a work vehicle. Some places offer 8% off invoice for the Wrangler but not sure about the Gladiator.

If you get a Jeep get an extended warranty. They are know for issues but we haven't had any and really really happy with ours.

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't the prettiest truck ever, but if you want a convertible, manual transmission truck, you convince yourself pretty quickly that you can live with it.

Uh, why wouldn't you just get a pickup with a second row? Those have been around for a long time. If you don't like pickups, then you won't like them, but if you don't mind a pickup, then they are exponentially less awful than this mutation.

Well, I guess one thing is that that fugly Jeep is cheaper than the "luxury" second row pickups.

No way. Jeeps are more expensive than most trucks. We're getting a Gladiator Rubicon and it's 50k. You don't want the base model because they come with absolutely nothing. The Gladiator sports look cheaper.

Most of the second-row trucks that are being marketed as family haulers are way more than 50k.

Which mid-size truck is way more than $50k? Decked out Rubicon gladiators run $64k. They are really expensive, but pretty cool considering you get all the fun of a Jeep plus more.

64k is cheaper than many of the decked out trucks out there. Every truck maker now has a 70-80k version of their trucks with a crew cab that is meant for families.

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Anonymous wrote:they aren't the prettiest truck ever, but if you want a convertible, manual transmission truck, you convince yourself pretty quickly that you can live with it.

Uh, why wouldn't you just get a pickup with a second row? Those have been around for a long time. If you don't like pickups, then you won't like them, but if you don't mind a pickup, then they are exponentially less awful than this mutation.

Well, I guess one thing is that that fugly Jeep is cheaper than the "luxury" second row pickups.

No way. Jeeps are more expensive than most trucks. We're getting a Gladiator Rubicon and it's 50k. You don't want the base model because they come with absolutely nothing. The Gladiator sports look cheaper.

Most of the second-row trucks that are being marketed as family haulers are way more than 50k.

Which mid-size truck is way more than $50k? Decked out Rubicon gladiators run $64k. They are really expensive, but pretty cool considering you get all the fun of a Jeep plus more.

Most of the trucks being marketed as family haulers are full sized. If you look at the trucks at dealerships, there are plenty of 70k and 80k options that are being aimed at suburban dads--the male version of those mom SUVs. A loaded Denali runs you about 70,000. The prices of trucks have gone up in recent years as they started making versions that are really meant as luxury family haulers and not work vehicles.