Anonymous
06/07/2020 06:56
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Anonymous wrote:Healthcare workers are wearing N95s though. How does your average cotton bandana compare? I thought non-N95 masks were mainly to prevent droplet transmission, not to protect the wearer.
Comparing health care workers, who are in close, sustained contact with symptomatic COVID patients, to protestors, joggers, picknickers, whoever, who are outside without symptoms is just stupid. Of course masks lower the risk for health care workers, no one argues that. There’s zero indication that wearing a mask outdoors, while maintaining social distance, is necessary at all. That’s why this is not a requirement anywhere, but has turned into an anxious subset of the population trying to bend others to their will by shrieking about droplets or whatever.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 06:25
Subject: Re:So, are the masks enough?
I heard several public health experts say that risk with protests should be minimal because they are outside. Tom Friedman said the most recent studies show very rare to have any transmission outside. He said risk was minimal. He than went onto say that masks should make that risk less But protestors should be washing hands frequently and distancing more. Clearly from the images distancing is not happening and masks not 100 percent.
The part I wonder about is transport - particularly in a downtown DC area as we know from other studies that public transport is one of the fastest ways to spread the disease. And that then brings the risks to public transport workers - often an at risk demographic.
The part I wonder about is transport - particularly in a downtown DC area as we know from other studies that public transport is one of the fastest ways to spread the disease. And that then brings the risks to public transport workers - often an at risk demographic.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 05:06
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. Masks make a huge difference for everyone. If everyone wears masks and stay at home when/if they are able to, we will see the disease die out.
They tried it in Wuhan. Do you think the masks and lock down made hat much of a difference? I am sure some but why the rest of the China did not have that many cases. Just as NYC was our "Wuhan" while the rest of the US was just like the rest of China.. more less.
I am not sure about that. Arizona and Alabama are two states struggling with bed capacity. Seattle was pretty bad according to doctors I know there.
I would want to see trustworthy data before stating the US was like the rest of China. I know the Chinese do not share accurate data, so I do not pay attention to them.
Anonymous
06/07/2020 01:57
Subject: Re:So, are the masks enough?
There is some irony in the fact that when the virus was rampant and most deadly we were told the mask don't work
and we should not wear them, be it store bought or home made.
Now the virus is on decline and not anywhere near as mean and we are told to wear the mask everywhere all the time.
Also we were not bothered to contact trace and inform people when it mattered but now when it is wide spread we need
contact tracers?
If it is very interesting science if you ask me.
Shouldn't I be the other way around?
Where was the science when you needed one. This is not the first pandemic and the value of the masks in the beginning of pandemic is well known science.
and we should not wear them, be it store bought or home made.
Now the virus is on decline and not anywhere near as mean and we are told to wear the mask everywhere all the time.
Also we were not bothered to contact trace and inform people when it mattered but now when it is wide spread we need
contact tracers?
If it is very interesting science if you ask me.
Shouldn't I be the other way around?
Where was the science when you needed one. This is not the first pandemic and the value of the masks in the beginning of pandemic is well known science.
Anonymous
06/06/2020 23:33
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Healthcare workers are wearing N95s though. How does your average cotton bandana compare? I thought non-N95 masks were mainly to prevent droplet transmission, not to protect the wearer.
Anonymous
06/06/2020 23:00
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
I read a lot of the early studies on fabric masks and one thing they noted is that they become much less effective after some hours. That is because if droplets land on the mask, the mask keeps out the droplets. Once the moisture in the droplet evaporates, the virus left behind is smaller and can fit through fabric weave and then you’re sucking it right in. So if you’re going to be out all day, bring a few masks and change them.
Anonymous
06/06/2020 22:50
Subject: Re:So, are the masks enough?
Try wearing a mandatory mask for 8 hours while at work and tell me that I’m not supposed to touch my face at all during the day!?!
My chances of contracting COVID is higher wearing the mask versus not wearing one.
My chances of contracting COVID is higher wearing the mask versus not wearing one.
Anonymous
06/06/2020 22:41
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. Masks make a huge difference for everyone. If everyone wears masks and stay at home when/if they are able to, we will see the disease die out.
They tried it in Wuhan. Do you think the masks and lock down made hat much of a difference? I am sure some but why the rest of the China did not have that many cases. Just as NYC was our "Wuhan" while the rest of the US was just like the rest of China.. more less.
I am not sure about that. Arizona and Alabama are two states struggling with bed capacity. Seattle was pretty bad according to doctors I know there.
I would want to see trustworthy data before stating the US was like the rest of China. I know the Chinese do not share accurate data, so I do not pay attention to them.
But they have fewer beds overall. When you cut and cut and cut sooner or later you have an event Beto f the typical flu season and whoops! Not enough beds . Doesn’t take much.
Anonymous
06/06/2020 22:39
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Anonymous wrote:Yes. Masks make a huge difference for everyone. If everyone wears masks and stay at home when/if they are able to, we will see the disease die out.
LMAO- there are literally thousands of protesters out when they don’t need to be! So I’m not staying at home either. F that.
Anonymous
06/06/2020 22:26
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t want this to be political, although I fully support the protesters. But from a health perspective, don’t we have a giant test case in terms of how effective the masks are? I see most protesters wearing them. There have to be a symptomatic carriers in the crowds. Do you think there will be huge spikes in a few weeks? I’m hoping not and then we can all start going back to mostly regular life, at least outside, with masks on.
Why do you assume this?
Anonymous
06/06/2020 22:22
Subject: Re:So, are the masks enough?
Anonymous wrote:People can shade the virus through their breaths - so for this masks will help some if there is a carrier out there.
People also can pass the gas hat can easily contain the virus if you have it and unless you wear N95 Underwear
How does it get into another person?
Via mouth - so those who have a mask will be somewhat protected if they have the ight mask, at the right time as we know many people either do not wear t hem at all or from time to time in the crowds or take off to catch a breather. If someone who carries the virus just sneezed and the wind blew on them.. oh well.. you know.
If they are wearing masks religiously.. and someone farted in the crowd.. a carrier sans Anticovid underwear - and the air blows it into their eyes that are door for infection, oh well.. you know.
So that is all the science I could think of the a topic.
Will they get infected? You would need to look back at anti lock down protest and get back to us. How many cases arose from this?
But.. also take the weather into consideration. UV kills this thing and also. I is deeper into the epidemics, more people have been already exposed and done with it so the poor virus is having trouble to find new willing and able hosts.
My vote: there won't be a significant spike in our area. Per any logic of epidemics and virus behavior so far.
Reference points: Florida beaches, Lock Down Protests...
It gets in through the nose, mouth and eyes. Eyes take more if rubbing it into your eyes.
Anonymous
06/06/2020 20:42
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Not a controlled study, but Brigham Young Hospital in Boston found a huge decline in staff infection rates after mandating masks: https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/23/brigham-and-womens-masks-infections
Anonymous
06/06/2020 20:40
Subject: Re:So, are the masks enough?
Masks are nothing but political. What a shame
Anonymous
06/06/2020 13:54
Subject: So, are the masks enough?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. Masks make a huge difference for everyone. If everyone wears masks and stay at home when/if they are able to, we will see the disease die out.
They tried it in Wuhan. Do you think the masks and lock down made hat much of a difference? I am sure some but why the rest of the China did not have that many cases. Just as NYC was our "Wuhan" while the rest of the US was just like the rest of China.. more less.
I am not sure about that. Arizona and Alabama are two states struggling with bed capacity. Seattle was pretty bad according to doctors I know there.
I would want to see trustworthy data before stating the US was like the rest of China. I know the Chinese do not share accurate data, so I do not pay attention to them.