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Mine started not at an age but more of a household milestone. We did kon-mari and she's had an easy time keeping things neat since then.

Before that, it was a constant struggle despite technically having a place for everything - it was really just too much stuff for a kid to manage, even with guidance and rules about daily bed making etc. We're not spartan by any means, but a significant culling made things look and stay great, and she said that it felt so much better (age 7 at the time).

Never. Messy adult now.

We are training our 5 year old every day now. After lunch, it's pick up the bedroom, clean the bathroom and help start laundry. I've also gotten her to empty the dishwasher after dinner every day. So far it's working, but she needs to be prompted to clean her room but the dishes have become automatic.

Corona virus diamonds you can catch the flu?

I have a 15 yr old DS and he wouldn't clean his room voluntarily. Neither would my brother when he was that age. Growing up and moving in with a girlfriend is what caused him to clean up his act (no pun intended) a bit.

Kids 7 and 9. House is a mess all the time. Every room in the house has toys, color pencils, books, some on the floor. I have just given up. I suppose I will miss the mess when they go to college.

I don't remember where I read it but a messy house with kids is better than a clean house with no kids.

My kids have always been taught to play hard and enjoy building and playing with toys.
BUT when the game is over or a set time has passed (for forts or lego cities etc) it is time to put htings away. This way they can actually see what they have, know where it goes and I can rotate things out easier.
Kids are 7 and 4

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My rule of thumb is, you let kids be responsible for their own rooms when you know they can do the job, because you've taught them how to do the job, she says. If they can make a bed, put away clothes and pick up toys, you can hand over room responsibility usually around age seven

Was hoping by 21 ....

I swear my 6 year old believes that his things are sad when they’re out away. All the things and clothes end up out and on the floor in 48h. I’ve resigned to pick up books and clothes and clear a path with my foot with toys and legos.

I found out that able and willing are two very, very different things when it comes to tidiness. My older son was willing and able at around 6/7 if you gave him specific instructions on what needed to be done. My younger son was also able to around 5 but would often just not do it without threats of bodily harm or removal of the offending items. At 8.5, my younger son still needs reminding and my 12 yr old normally keeps his room tidy.

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