Anonymous
Post 05/20/2020 08:33     Subject: Re:Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:
the refund or credit seems pretty fair to me- much more than many clubs are doing


OP here. I don't agree at all. We had a kid join my child's team in the spring. That child's family paid half of the year's fees. The family got almost nothing out of the season.


And yet you are complaining about YOUR situation where you played all fall. Not the new kid (whose parents I am sure can take that up with the club). Unless the leagues that Alexandria plays in and the fields they rent gave them a refund, there are sunk costs that have nothing to do with paying coaches.

You can be mad at Alexandria but their refund is far better than any other club in this area so your beef seems misplaced.

The whole concept of 'services rendered' is obsolete here for all but a certain portion of the fee (which is probably what you are getting back). Consider that the Falls season absorbs most of the cost of your travel fee (call it 65/70). Then you have a spring season with 30%--a portion of that is sunk cost, so the refund you are seeing accounts for that.


Unless you work for them, I am not sure how you know how their costs are allocated, or why you are so intent on attacking me on being concerned for the family of my child's teammate, as well as my own family. If you do, the club should have provided an explanation to parents (e.g., tournaments did not refund, the city still made us pay for fields, more costs allocated to fall).


If you haven’t realized it by now, that club does not communicate anything meaningful. They’ll tell you how great they are (that annual report is one giant strokefest piece of misleading BS) if you would like information that will help you make choices, nothing but crickets....
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2020 07:59     Subject: Re:Alexandria
the refund or credit seems pretty fair to me- much more than many clubs are doing


OP here. I don't agree at all. We had a kid join my child's team in the spring. That child's family paid half of the year's fees. The family got almost nothing out of the season.


And yet you are complaining about YOUR situation where you played all fall. Not the new kid (whose parents I am sure can take that up with the club). Unless the leagues that Alexandria plays in and the fields they rent gave them a refund, there are sunk costs that have nothing to do with paying coaches.

You can be mad at Alexandria but their refund is far better than any other club in this area so your beef seems misplaced.

The whole concept of 'services rendered' is obsolete here for all but a certain portion of the fee (which is probably what you are getting back). Consider that the Falls season absorbs most of the cost of your travel fee (call it 65/70). Then you have a spring season with 30%--a portion of that is sunk cost, so the refund you are seeing accounts for that.


Unless you work for them, I am not sure how you know how their costs are allocated, or why you are so intent on attacking me on being concerned for the family of my child's teammate, as well as my own family. If you do, the club should have provided an explanation to parents (e.g., tournaments did not refund, the city still made us pay for fields, more costs allocated to fall).
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2020 07:52     Subject: Alexandria
OP, I agree that it sucks but it is more than most clubs. I am a manager for a small club where each team manages its own finances. We have gotten ZERO refunds from anyone. We paid numerous fees before the spring season and, for now anyway, all that money has gone unreturned. Since we continued to pay the coach, we have no leftover money except for the one late tournament that didn't get played. (So less than $100 per person.) I am still hoping the league gives a refund though, as far as I know, they are still promising (pretending) that there will be a spring season over the summer. And I hope the club gives one from the club fees. Best case scenario, it won't add up to what you got.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2020 07:37     Subject: Re:Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
the refund or credit seems pretty fair to me- much more than many clubs are doing


OP here. I don't agree at all. We had a kid join my child's team in the spring. That child's family paid half of the year's fees. The family got almost nothing out of the season.


And yet you are complaining about YOUR situation where you played all fall. Not the new kid (whose parents I am sure can take that up with the club). Unless the leagues that Alexandria plays in and the fields they rent gave them a refund, there are sunk costs that have nothing to do with paying coaches.

You can be mad at Alexandria but their refund is far better than any other club in this area so your beef seems misplaced.

The whole concept of 'services rendered' is obsolete here for all but a certain portion of the fee (which is probably what you are getting back). Consider that the Falls season absorbs most of the cost of your travel fee (call it 65/70). Then you have a spring season with 30%--a portion of that is sunk cost, so the refund you are seeing accounts for that.

Don't expect better treatment at other clubs. It's just not happening.


... And Alexandria is back on the boards self promoting. Gotta earn that 300k...


Look who’s off their meds again! Great to see you back. Glad to see the obsession continues. Help. Get it. Fast.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2020 07:32     Subject: Re:Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:"You can be mad at Alexandria but their refund is far better than any other club in this area so your beef seems misplaced. "

Actually, Arlington refunded us more.


As a percentage of fees, Arlington looks like 300 out of 2400. Alexandria has the same refund and a higher credit on a lower fee. And yeah, you pay more to kick and run. Enjoy the ride.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2020 07:23     Subject: Re:Alexandria
"You can be mad at Alexandria but their refund is far better than any other club in this area so your beef seems misplaced. "

Actually, Arlington refunded us more.
Anonymous
Post 05/20/2020 07:22     Subject: Re:Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
the refund or credit seems pretty fair to me- much more than many clubs are doing


OP here. I don't agree at all. We had a kid join my child's team in the spring. That child's family paid half of the year's fees. The family got almost nothing out of the season.


And yet you are complaining about YOUR situation where you played all fall. Not the new kid (whose parents I am sure can take that up with the club). Unless the leagues that Alexandria plays in and the fields they rent gave them a refund, there are sunk costs that have nothing to do with paying coaches.

You can be mad at Alexandria but their refund is far better than any other club in this area so your beef seems misplaced.

The whole concept of 'services rendered' is obsolete here for all but a certain portion of the fee (which is probably what you are getting back). Consider that the Falls season absorbs most of the cost of your travel fee (call it 65/70). Then you have a spring season with 30%--a portion of that is sunk cost, so the refund you are seeing accounts for that.

Don't expect better treatment at other clubs. It's just not happening.


... And Alexandria is back on the boards self promoting. Gotta earn that 300k...
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 23:43     Subject: Re:Alexandria
My Club is giving 0 back.

That’s right. Nada.

Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 20:09     Subject: Re:Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:
the refund or credit seems pretty fair to me- much more than many clubs are doing


OP here. I don't agree at all. We had a kid join my child's team in the spring. That child's family paid half of the year's fees. The family got almost nothing out of the season.


And yet you are complaining about YOUR situation where you played all fall. Not the new kid (whose parents I am sure can take that up with the club). Unless the leagues that Alexandria plays in and the fields they rent gave them a refund, there are sunk costs that have nothing to do with paying coaches.

You can be mad at Alexandria but their refund is far better than any other club in this area so your beef seems misplaced.

The whole concept of 'services rendered' is obsolete here for all but a certain portion of the fee (which is probably what you are getting back). Consider that the Falls season absorbs most of the cost of your travel fee (call it 65/70). Then you have a spring season with 30%--a portion of that is sunk cost, so the refund you are seeing accounts for that.

Don't expect better treatment at other clubs. It's just not happening.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 18:49     Subject: Re:Alexandria
I cannot believe that they are offering either a $400 credit or $300 refund for the spring season when the total per year cost is just shy of $2K. We had no tournaments, no games, two 30 minute zoom sessions in lieu of three 90 minute to two hour practices per week. WTF?


OK. I am not saying you are wrong, but the point above is incomplete. You played half the season. So the question is how much they should refund out of the near $1k you paid.



Yea I was thinking the same thing. Our club prorates so it would be 4/10 mo or 40% so you got a 50% credit or 37.5% refund. Better than our 0% and 0%!


To clarify..spring season was worth about $800 so you can get half of your loss in credit.


BS. They charged my son's friend who only plays in the spring (due to another sport) the full half a year. So no prorating for an alleged smaller number of weeks. Doesn't get to work both ways.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 18:45     Subject: Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that they are offering either a $400 credit or $300 refund for the spring season when the total per year cost is just shy of $2K. We had no tournaments, no games, two 30 minute zoom sessions in lieu of three 90 minute to two hour practices per week. WTF?


OK. I am not saying you are wrong, but the point above is incomplete. You played half the season. So the question is how much they should refund out of the near $1k you paid.



Yea I was thinking the same thing. Our club prorates so it would be 4/10 mo or 40% so you got a 50% credit or 37.5% refund. Better than our 0% and 0%!


To clarify..spring season was worth about $800 so you can get half of your loss in credit.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 18:39     Subject: Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe that they are offering either a $400 credit or $300 refund for the spring season when the total per year cost is just shy of $2K. We had no tournaments, no games, two 30 minute zoom sessions in lieu of three 90 minute to two hour practices per week. WTF?


OK. I am not saying you are wrong, but the point above is incomplete. You played half the season. So the question is how much they should refund out of the near $1k you paid.



Yea I was thinking the same thing. Our club prorates so it would be 4/10 mo or 40% so you got a 50% credit or 37.5% refund. Better than our 0% and 0%!
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 18:31     Subject: Re:Alexandria
I cannot believe that they are offering either a $400 credit or $300 refund for the spring season when the total per year cost is just shy of $2K. We had no tournaments, no games, two 30 minute zoom sessions in lieu of three 90 minute to two hour practices per week. WTF?


OK. I am not saying you are wrong, but the point above is incomplete. You played half the season. So the question is how much they should refund out of the near $1k you paid.


What part is incomplete? OP said the per year cost was 2K. Looks complete to me.


They played half the season. So if each half of 1K, they got a 40 percent refund. Is this really that hard for folks to follow?


Are you being difficult, or are you just dense? No information has been omitted. We understand that it is a refund of 40 percent of the spring season. What we want to know is, why and what happened to the other 60 percent. Got it now?
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 17:57     Subject: Re:Alexandria
I thought they had been over charging for years in order to build up the sustainability fund. It seems like this is the time they should be using those funds to give proper refunds .... maybe that fund is more subterfuge from the board and club.
Anonymous
Post 05/19/2020 17:53     Subject: Re:Alexandria
Anonymous wrote:
I cannot believe that they are offering either a $400 credit or $300 refund for the spring season when the total per year cost is just shy of $2K. We had no tournaments, no games, two 30 minute zoom sessions in lieu of three 90 minute to two hour practices per week. WTF?


OK. I am not saying you are wrong, but the point above is incomplete. You played half the season. So the question is how much they should refund out of the near $1k you paid.


What part is incomplete? OP said the per year cost was 2K. Looks complete to me.


They played half the season. So if each half of 1K, they got a 40 percent refund. Is this really that hard for folks to follow?