Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 15:53     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a few bitter sounding teachers on this thread. Especially for the younger kids, the only way they are getting any school-specific learning (or maintain their relationship with the school/teacher) is with the buy in and effort of the parents, so dealing with parents (which includes helping them work through the tech solutions and getting them to "buy in") is now part of your job. It's disappointing to hear that so many are so put off by a parent trying to help their kid access remote learning.



Yeah, seriously.

Or trying to form a relationship with you, by sending emails or trying to talk to you in general.


I don't want a relationship with you or to have general conversations with you. We are not friends and I am not part of your family, my job is to teach your child and prepare them for the next grade. Your job is to take care of them, love them and make sure they are prepared to learn.


Nope. Like it or not, you and the parents are co-teachers now. And you know what, getting to know your co-teacher is necessary. No, I'm not suggesting you need to engage in long conversations unrelated to the teaching of the child, but you probably should engage in friendly communications designed to improve your working relationship with your co-teacher. Your ability to teach a child directly relates to your ability to create a learning family.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 15:37     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:Different teacher, here.

I appreciate the parents who are trying their best, and I understand that they sometimes need help or clarity. I'll give it gladly.

What I am tired of (in general, but especially now) is the parents who don't act like grownups. Stop emailing me at all hours of the day [i][u]so that I can personally tell you something that's available in my previous messages, or on your child's paperwork, or right there for everyone on the school website. Guess what? I'm going to do exactly what YOU should have done, and find it in one of those places. Then I will provide that info to you, even though I am not your teacher or your mama.

Please stop wasting my time. Actually read what has been given to you, and do your part. If there is something that you CAN'T do yourself, I will be glad to assist.


Huh? Of course people email at all hours of the day. That's the whole point of email. I can send it when it's convenient for me, and you can respond when it's convenient for you. I have no idea why a teacher would even be checking email at "all hours of the day" I'm not going to apologize for sending an email at 10:30 at night, but I certainly have no expectation of a response until the enxt day.

And yeah.... I bet the info IS in your previous message OR on my child's paperowrk OR on the school website OR on the google classroom stream OR on the google classroom calendar OR on the zoom email OR in my kid's email. That's the problem.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 15:05     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a few bitter sounding teachers on this thread. Especially for the younger kids, the only way they are getting any school-specific learning (or maintain their relationship with the school/teacher) is with the buy in and effort of the parents, so dealing with parents (which includes helping them work through the tech solutions and getting them to "buy in") is now part of your job. It's disappointing to hear that so many are so put off by a parent trying to help their kid access remote learning.



Yeah, seriously.

Or trying to form a relationship with you, by sending emails or trying to talk to you in general.


I don't want a relationship with you or to have general conversations with you. We are not friends and I am not part of your family, my job is to teach your child and prepare them for the next grade. Your job is to take care of them, love them and make sure they are prepared to learn.


Is this for real or a parody?
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 14:44     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There are a few bitter sounding teachers on this thread. Especially for the younger kids, the only way they are getting any school-specific learning (or maintain their relationship with the school/teacher) is with the buy in and effort of the parents, so dealing with parents (which includes helping them work through the tech solutions and getting them to "buy in") is now part of your job. It's disappointing to hear that so many are so put off by a parent trying to help their kid access remote learning.



Yeah, seriously.

Or trying to form a relationship with you, by sending emails or trying to talk to you in general.


I don't want a relationship with you or to have general conversations with you. We are not friends and I am not part of your family, my job is to teach your child and prepare them for the next grade. Your job is to take care of them, love them and make sure they are prepared to learn.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 12:59     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:Different teacher, here.

I appreciate the parents who are trying their best, and I understand that they sometimes need help or clarity. I'll give it gladly.

What I am tired of (in general, but especially now) is the parents who don't act like grownups. Stop emailing me at all hours of the day so that I can personally tell you something that's available in my previous messages, or on your child's paperwork, or right there for everyone on the school website. Guess what? I'm going to do exactly what YOU should have done, and find it in one of those places. Then I will provide that info to you, even though I am not your teacher or your mama.

Please stop wasting my time. Actually read what has been given to you, and do your part. If there is something that you CAN'T do yourself, I will be glad to assist.

Unfortunately, those are issues everybody deals with in every walk of life. It's super frustrating but nothing unique or novel.

As for emails at night. That is exactly what "grown ups" do. In this context it probably means that that was the only time the parents had to write the question. Nobody expexts an immediate answer at night. They likely emailed instead of texting or calling because they were trying not to bother you.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 11:39     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Different teacher, here.

I appreciate the parents who are trying their best, and I understand that they sometimes need help or clarity. I'll give it gladly.

What I am tired of (in general, but especially now) is the parents who don't act like grownups. Stop emailing me at all hours of the day so that I can personally tell you something that's available in my previous messages, or on your child's paperwork, or right there for everyone on the school website. Guess what? I'm going to do exactly what YOU should have done, and find it in one of those places. Then I will provide that info to you, even though I am not your teacher or your mama.

Please stop wasting my time. Actually read what has been given to you, and do your part. If there is something that you CAN'T do yourself, I will be glad to assist.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 11:39     Subject: Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:I’m a former teacher who is a mom now and here’s my perspective reading this- there are a lot of worn down teachers AND parents on these threads about DL. Coming at teachers like they are not working their butts off to roll out something completely new during a pandemic is asinine. Coming at parents like they are being whiny and incompetent in assisting their children during a pandemic is asinine. Slow your roll and back away from the keyboard. According to social media we’re all supposed to be baking bread and making whipped coffees, so maybe try that as an alternative to blow off steam.


Love this.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 11:38     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:There are a few bitter sounding teachers on this thread. Especially for the younger kids, the only way they are getting any school-specific learning (or maintain their relationship with the school/teacher) is with the buy in and effort of the parents, so dealing with parents (which includes helping them work through the tech solutions and getting them to "buy in") is now part of your job. It's disappointing to hear that so many are so put off by a parent trying to help their kid access remote learning.


Bitter isn't the word. I have some parents who are just relentless and lack any kind of boundaries. I work at a NW school- the kind of neighborhood where parents could afford private schooling but their kids couldn't get in. So some messages have been "I heard at X school, they have live karate classes every morning followed by pottery class followed by a cooking class. And they end their day with a two hour silent meditation".

It's not all of the parents who get under my skin- just a handful. But these parents are toxic in nature and gossip and love to come off as "advocating". hahahahahah.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 11:36     Subject: Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
I’m a former teacher who is a mom now and here’s my perspective reading this- there are a lot of worn down teachers AND parents on these threads about DL. Coming at teachers like they are not working their butts off to roll out something completely new during a pandemic is asinine. Coming at parents like they are being whiny and incompetent in assisting their children during a pandemic is asinine. Slow your roll and back away from the keyboard. According to social media we’re all supposed to be baking bread and making whipped coffees, so maybe try that as an alternative to blow off steam.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 11:32     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
This is what happens when some parents go overboard. It effects how teachers treat every parent.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 11:22     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:There are a few bitter sounding teachers on this thread. Especially for the younger kids, the only way they are getting any school-specific learning (or maintain their relationship with the school/teacher) is with the buy in and effort of the parents, so dealing with parents (which includes helping them work through the tech solutions and getting them to "buy in") is now part of your job. It's disappointing to hear that so many are so put off by a parent trying to help their kid access remote learning.



Yeah, seriously.

Or trying to form a relationship with you, by sending emails or trying to talk to you in general.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 11:12     Subject: Re:Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
There are a few bitter sounding teachers on this thread. Especially for the younger kids, the only way they are getting any school-specific learning (or maintain their relationship with the school/teacher) is with the buy in and effort of the parents, so dealing with parents (which includes helping them work through the tech solutions and getting them to "buy in") is now part of your job. It's disappointing to hear that so many are so put off by a parent trying to help their kid access remote learning.
Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 09:37     Subject: Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are some examples of mundane nonsense?

1. Telling me your theories about school reopening
2. Trash talking my co-workers
3. Asking me my theories about school in the fall
4. Telling me how hard it is to parent & work right now. Because no one else, including me has kids
5. Telling me your family therapist told you to stop with distance learning- but you don’t take the advice
6. Telling me about your marriage issues.
7. Asking me if I’ll wear a face mask in the fall
8. Demanding to go in the building to get Larlas coat
9. Loosing the zoom link
10. Thinking you are ‘teacher’ because you read a book to your kid


New poster, but here are some more.

11. Requesting a zoom meeting with a teacher when you can just send an email.
12. Asking for me to send you your own email with everything your kid needs to do, even though it’s all in the google classroom.
13. CC’ing the principal unnecessarily on an initial email asking about why your kid got a certain grade.
14. Sending a novel of an email talking about your concerns.
15. Joining your child’s zoom lessons and wanting to talk when I have a lesson to do.


16. Emailing me requesting that I grade all of the assignments you’ve completed (oh sorry I mean your elementary school aged child)-at 1 am
17. Emailing me asking how you can be sure that I know “as soon as” you complete an assignment (there are no due dates)
18. Writing announcements every single day stating that your child is present instead of commenting on the thread specifically designated for that purpose because your child is SPECIAL
19. Posting your child’s completed assignments as announcements for everyone to see instead of just clicking submit
20. Showing up at the very end of a scheduled live lesson and then asking if I can teach it again
21. Showing up in the middle of a lesson and interrupting when all the other students are muted


This is good to read but what are legitimate reasons to contact teachers, then? Also come on, ease up on the lost links and passwords, your systems are a mess. What's also very hard is figuring out what the kids are supposed to do, turn in, or suggested to turn in, and prioritizing if nothing is expected, and then figuring out how to submit stuff and whether we even should. This is all very new, changing often, and confusing. Accidentally posting things in the wrong place is also not necessarily our fault. Have a little bit of patience for the parent learning curve, please.




Anonymous
Post 05/11/2020 09:23     Subject: Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Come om now. I'm highly doubtful about some of these. They seem highly exaggerated or misinterpreted.

Right now home room teachers are the only point of contact for parents. It is what it is. Talk to the principal and find a solution. Everyone is trying to figure out systems and routines. We're all burnt out. DL is completely different than in-person in every way and requires everyone to adapt.
Anonymous
Post 05/10/2020 17:48     Subject: Teachers: Has Distance Learning Changed your View of your School?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are some examples of mundane nonsense?

1. Telling me your theories about school reopening
2. Trash talking my co-workers
3. Asking me my theories about school in the fall
4. Telling me how hard it is to parent & work right now. Because no one else, including me has kids
5. Telling me your family therapist told you to stop with distance learning- but you don’t take the advice
6. Telling me about your marriage issues.
7. Asking me if I’ll wear a face mask in the fall
8. Demanding to go in the building to get Larlas coat
9. Loosing the zoom link
10. Thinking you are ‘teacher’ because you read a book to your kid


New poster, but here are some more.

11. Requesting a zoom meeting with a teacher when you can just send an email.
12. Asking for me to send you your own email with everything your kid needs to do, even though it’s all in the google classroom.
13. CC’ing the principal unnecessarily on an initial email asking about why your kid got a certain grade.
14. Sending a novel of an email talking about your concerns.
15. Joining your child’s zoom lessons and wanting to talk when I have a lesson to do.


16. Emailing me requesting that I grade all of the assignments you’ve completed (oh sorry I mean your elementary school aged child)-at 1 am
17. Emailing me asking how you can be sure that I know “as soon as” you complete an assignment (there are no due dates)
18. Writing announcements every single day stating that your child is present instead of commenting on the thread specifically designated for that purpose because your child is SPECIAL
19. Posting your child’s completed assignments as announcements for everyone to see instead of just clicking submit
20. Showing up at the very end of a scheduled live lesson and then asking if I can teach it again
21. Showing up in the middle of a lesson and interrupting when all the other students are muted


From a fellow teacher - please work on establishing and enforcing boundaries. A lot of these things are avoidable,

Which of these things are avoidable and how would you avoid them?