Anonymous
05/01/2020 01:07
Subject: My kid has a fever and headache
This pandemic has made one thing rather clear: a lot of adults in this country suffer from major mental illness. I've never seen so many manic, irrationally paranoid people in my life. And now they have been empowered....
Anonymous
04/30/2020 23:18
Subject: Re:My kid has a fever and headache
Not one confirmed case from food.
The anti takeout people are nuts.
The anti takeout people are nuts.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 23:04
Subject: My kid has a fever and headache
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Grocery store?
Mail?
We get our groceries delivered. We got take out last weekend.
Sigh.
What is the point of getting groceries delivered if you’re getting take-out?
I don’t want to rub it in, OP, since your kid id sick. Thank you for posting so that others can understand the consequences of each action they take.
I don't understand this. Does anyone know what this PP means?
Yes, PP is under the impression that getting take out poses a high risk and should have been avoided. Personally, I think it is a very low risk activity and the doctors on the news seem to agree - low risk. We get take out at least once a week and we treat the packaging like we would our groceries or FedEx/UPS packages. We unpack the take out in one area in our kitchen, throw away the packaging, wipe down the counter where the packaging was, and wash our hands. We usually wipe down any sauce packets or dressings that came with it or we throw those out. We try to steer toward warm dishes, although I did order a salad last time. We've been doing this for weeks and are all healthy. Medical professionals have said that this is not a food-born virus. Unless someone at Papa John's happens to be an asymptomatic carrier of the virus AND decided to straight-up sneeze on your pizza and then ship it off to you anyway, you are completely safe. And BTW, if you're that paranoid, just re-heat the food in your oven for a bit. No big deal.
I am not "under the impression". I am a research biologist and as such, see clearly how viral particles cling to the food, the food container, and the outer packaging. Contrary to groceries that you can possible wipe down or leave for days in a garage, take-out is meant to be eaten immediately. It's hard to wipe plastic bag handles or flimsy paper bags. You can reheat the food to 140F internal temperature for several minutes, but contaminate yourself in the process of getting that food out of all those layers.
Thus, take-out is riskier than grocery delivery. That is why it does not make sense that OP is getting her groceries delivered but still decided it was OK to get take-out.
Wait, so I should stop licking the plastic take-out containers?
Anonymous
04/30/2020 22:40
Subject: My kid has a fever and headache
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Grocery store?
Mail?
We get our groceries delivered. We got take out last weekend.
Sigh.
What is the point of getting groceries delivered if you’re getting take-out?
I don’t want to rub it in, OP, since your kid id sick. Thank you for posting so that others can understand the consequences of each action they take.
Huh?
Anonymous
04/30/2020 22:29
Subject: My kid has a fever and headache
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Grocery store?
Mail?
We get our groceries delivered. We got take out last weekend.
Sigh.
What is the point of getting groceries delivered if you’re getting take-out?
I don’t want to rub it in, OP, since your kid id sick. Thank you for posting so that others can understand the consequences of each action they take.
I promise you, your kid didn't catch CV from groceries or take-out. It may or may not be CV, but your parents should probably wait to be on the safe side.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 22:26
Subject: My kid has a fever and headache
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Grocery store?
Mail?
We get our groceries delivered. We got take out last weekend.
Sigh.
What is the point of getting groceries delivered if you’re getting take-out?
I don’t want to rub it in, OP, since your kid id sick. Thank you for posting so that others can understand the consequences of each action they take.
I don't understand this. Does anyone know what this PP means?
It's perfectly fine and safe to get take out and groceries:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/08/822903487/how-safe-is-it-to-eat-take-out
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/health/groceries-takeout-coronavirus-wellness-scn-trnd/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/well/live/coronavirus-contagion-spead-clothes-shoes-hair-newspaper-packages-mail-infectious.html
Yes, this is plain to see.
-- Person without a biology degree.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 22:24
Subject: My kid has a fever and headache
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Grocery store?
Mail?
We get our groceries delivered. We got take out last weekend.
Sigh.
What is the point of getting groceries delivered if you’re getting take-out?
I don’t want to rub it in, OP, since your kid id sick. Thank you for posting so that others can understand the consequences of each action they take.
I don't understand this. Does anyone know what this PP means?
Yes, PP is under the impression that getting take out poses a high risk and should have been avoided. Personally, I think it is a very low risk activity and the doctors on the news seem to agree - low risk. We get take out at least once a week and we treat the packaging like we would our groceries or FedEx/UPS packages. We unpack the take out in one area in our kitchen, throw away the packaging, wipe down the counter where the packaging was, and wash our hands. We usually wipe down any sauce packets or dressings that came with it or we throw those out. We try to steer toward warm dishes, although I did order a salad last time. We've been doing this for weeks and are all healthy. Medical professionals have said that this is not a food-born virus. Unless someone at Papa John's happens to be an asymptomatic carrier of the virus AND decided to straight-up sneeze on your pizza and then ship it off to you anyway, you are completely safe. And BTW, if you're that paranoid, just re-heat the food in your oven for a bit. No big deal.
I am not "under the impression". I am a research biologist and as such, see clearly how viral particles cling to the food, the food container, and the outer packaging. Contrary to groceries that you can possible wipe down or leave for days in a garage, take-out is meant to be eaten immediately. It's hard to wipe plastic bag handles or flimsy paper bags. You can reheat the food to 140F internal temperature for several minutes, but contaminate yourself in the process of getting that food out of all those layers.
Thus, take-out is riskier than grocery delivery. That is why it does not make sense that OP is getting her groceries delivered but still decided it was OK to get take-out.
I am PP you quoted. The same possibility of contaminating yourself, which you describe, exists for both take-out and groceries. Yes, you touch the plastic bag handles when you bring it in, but then guess what you do? You WASH YOUR HANDS. And you do so immediately, and you don't touch your face in the meantime. You do the same thing for your mail, your package deliveries, and your groceries. Are you leaving your milk and perishables out in your garage for 48 hours?? No. So you are touching and wiping down things that are potentially contaminated. You are never going to get your risk down to zero. You can absolutely get take out safely, and take precautions in doing so.
And I'm getting really tired of posters putting their job title in their posts, like it makes them more authoritative. You may have a biology degree, your perspective is vastly different than any of doctors that I've spoken with directly or seen giving advice on the news.
Anonymous
04/30/2020 22:16
Subject: My kid has a fever and headache
Anonymous wrote:Haven’t left house no takeout since March 8 and my toddler had a ridiculous high fever for 5 and I mean 5 full freaking days and a stupid cough! It was a sinus infection antibiotics helped instantly - he’s smaller so couldn’t blow nose, playing in dirt and potty, etc and was stuffy. It’ll be okay.
You must have been so nervous with those symptoms!