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Anonymous wrote:As someone without a junior or a senior I'd say the junior have it FAR worse.

Seniors are missing out on graduation and prom. Big deals in the present by forgotten about in 6 months.
However, they went through the college admissions process unscathed. They are set for next year.
They're having unprecedented opportunities to move off waitlists as international students and others drop out.

Juniors have no idea what college admissions will hold. They may get shut out from college when 50% of the spots are gone to deferrals.
Applications may end up being based on Freshman and Sophomore year grades and a lotto machine. How will kids even know what is their safety, match, etc anymore?
No one wants to think this but it's realistically quite likely that they'll be home for a good portion of their senior year as well.
They are the ones getting screwed in a "big picture" way.

What about what seniors will miss with an atypical freshman year?

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question-- yes, I think that lots of seniors deferring will make it tougher for juniors to enter college immediately after graduation in 2021. But is that really so bad? I have a junior and I was actually hoping that he would take a gap year after graduation in 2021. MAybe I'm crazy to look for a silver lining in this mess, but maybe society will pull together and focus on helping current seniors do interesting and productive things so that they can delay admission for a semester or so and such programs will roll to the benefit of not only current seniors but also to current juniors. Perhaps there will be apprenticeship programs. Perhaps volunteer opportunities.

In sum, I get it that juniors could be at a disadvantage because of seniors deferring (as a parent of a junior I really do get it-- and he was sort of hoping to get recruited in a sport, but that is a whole other thing) but the pain is clearly falling much harder upon the current seniors. They are at the vanguard of this. If your child is a senior, please don't feel obligated to send your child to college in the fall just because it will make it difficult for current juniors to enter college immediately after their graduation. Maybe todays juniors could actually benefit by having a delayed entrance, even without a virus on campus. Time to hone their sport, time to learn a trade, who knows?? We juniors parents will be sending best wishes and watching those seniors as they make their way as best they can-- as we all are doing in this difficult time.

Anonymous wrote:The parents of juniors on this board are insane.

Why should your kid have to take the SAT/ACT multiple times? That is privilege right there.

You are upset that your kids "super special" athletic ability isn't going to get them into a school that they aren't qualified to get into on academics alone?
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Ring ceremonies?

Junior trips abroad?

Schools have plenty of time to plan for things like Prom and graduation, 2021 - please.

Did you even think that maybe students are deferring because of financial reasons/concerns? Not being able to visit a school?


Remember, this whole conversation started because a junior parent whined about seniors being "unfair."

Anonymous wrote:As someone without a junior or a senior I'd say the junior have it FAR worse.

Seniors are missing out on graduation and prom. Big deals in the present by forgotten about in 6 months.
However, they went through the college admissions process unscathed. They are set for next year.
They're having unprecedented opportunities to move off waitlists as international students and others drop out.

Juniors have no idea what college admissions will hold. They may get shut out from college when 50% of the spots are gone to deferrals.
Applications may end up being based on Freshman and Sophomore year grades and a lotto machine. How will kids even know what is their safety, match, etc anymore?
No one wants to think this but it's realistically quite likely that they'll be home for a good portion of their senior year as well.
They are the ones getting screwed in a "big picture" way.

Anonymous wrote:Back to the original question-- yes, I think that lots of seniors deferring will make it tougher for juniors to enter college immediately after graduation in 2021. But is that really so bad? I have a junior and I was actually hoping that he would take a gap year after graduation in 2021. MAybe I'm crazy to look for a silver lining in this mess, but maybe society will pull together and focus on helping current seniors do interesting and productive things so that they can delay admission for a semester or so and such programs will roll to the benefit of not only current seniors but also to current juniors. Perhaps there will be apprenticeship programs. Perhaps volunteer opportunities.

In sum, I get it that juniors could be at a disadvantage because of seniors deferring (as a parent of a junior I really do get it-- and he was sort of hoping to get recruited in a sport, but that is a whole other thing) but the pain is clearly falling much harder upon the current seniors. They are at the vanguard of this. If your child is a senior, please don't feel obligated to send your child to college in the fall just because it will make it difficult for current juniors to enter college immediately after their graduation. Maybe todays juniors could actually benefit by having a delayed entrance, even without a virus on campus. Time to hone their sport, time to learn a trade, who knows?? We juniors parents will be sending best wishes and watching those seniors as they make their way as best they can-- as we all are doing in this difficult time.

Anonymous wrote:As someone without a junior or a senior I'd say the junior have it FAR worse.

Seniors are missing out on graduation and prom. Big deals in the present by forgotten about in 6 months.
However, they went through the college admissions process unscathed. They are set for next year.
They're having unprecedented opportunities to move off waitlists as international students and others drop out.

Juniors have no idea what college admissions will hold. They may get shut out from college when 50% of the spots are gone to deferrals.
Applications may end up being based on Freshman and Sophomore year grades and a lotto machine. How will kids even know what is their safety, match, etc anymore?
No one wants to think this but it's realistically quite likely that they'll be home for a good portion of their senior year as well.
They are the ones getting screwed in a "big picture" way.

Anonymous wrote:The parents of juniors on this board are insane.

Why should your kid have to take the SAT/ACT multiple times? That is privilege right there.

You are upset that your kids "super special" athletic ability isn't going to get them into a school that they aren't qualified to get into on academics alone?

Ring ceremonies?

Junior trips abroad?

Schools have plenty of time to plan for things like Prom and graduation, 2021 - please.

Did you even think that maybe students are deferring because of financial reasons/concerns? Not being able to visit a school?


Remember, this whole conversation started because a junior parent whined about seniors being "unfair."

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Anonymous wrote:

I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

Do you realize how tone deaf and privileged this sounds?

People please!! I have a senior who is missing out on the most fun months of school life: senior prank day, final theater production, senior ditch day, prom, graduation. Also at a small private. You know what? She is taking it like a champ, with maturity and grace. More mature than this poster who is obviously a parent!!

Nobody is WINNING on the "who has it worse" in this crisis. Juniors and seniors are both facing big challenges this year and next - it's not a competition. I am so, so proud of my senior who has risen to the occasion and has not complained much at all about losing out. Our school is hoping for a weekend of celebrations in August if it's safe, and DC is holding out hope that we can do that. Otherwise, she is looking forward to college in the fall - however that takes place. She is NOT deferring. DC hasn't made a final school decision yet - so this week is a bit stressful because she has three amazing choices that are all highly ranked. That's a great, privileged problem to have and we know it.

Please put things in perspective and help your junior handle this with maturity. They will all be fine - a little adversity is good for our snowflakes as they embark on adulthood.

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Anonymous wrote:That's why student who want to defer should not be allowed to do so. They should have to reapply next year.

Yes because they haven't been screwed over enough this year.

So because one kid doesn’t want to start school online in the fall they get to screw another kid out of a spot in a college altogether? How is that fair? Play the hand your dealt.

They are playing the hand they are dealt. Their play is to defer. You act like that is what the seniors want. They want to go to school in Fall 2020. Deferring is a sacrifice.

Why can't your junior take a bit of the hit? They will get to be a second semester senior, prom, etc. Come on, teach your kid to be a good team member - they need to carry their share of the burden. They are basically getting to skate by on half of what is supposed to be the hardest academic year (open book APs, pass/fail classes).

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I think it's pretty selfish to think that seniors are the only students suffering in this. My junior is at a private school where they are not doing pass/fail, she missed her SAT that she had been training for and then the next two got cancelled as well, her spring varsity season was cancelled and this is one that colleges look at for recruiting, her prospect days were cancelled and she needs to start the pre read process soon with no scores and limited information about the schools. She will likely be fine because she's a recruited athlete and far ahead of her peers in terms of narrowing her college choices but I do feel for other juniors who have been dealing with cancelations as well (junior prom, junior ring ceremony, junior summer abroad trips all cancelled).

Class of 2021 is not in a good position so please don't say they're not "carrying their share of the burden".

Do you realize how tone deaf and privileged this sounds?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's why student who want to defer should not be allowed to do so. They should have to reapply next year.

Yes because they haven't been screwed over enough this year.

This is a great response!