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Anonymous wrote:We will send ours kids when they open. The data in the US is showing it is very low risk for kids, DH and I don’t have any risk factors so it is also very low risk for our household. We are still not going to be visiting grandparents, which would be the reason I would keep them out.

I don’t understand what everyone is so fearful about with their kids, unless you have a high risk person living with you. At this point, I think Hogan is being responsible about closing things down to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. If they open the daycare, I feel that they will be following the scientific/medical guidance on managing the community spread, and will close again when they need to.

I’m asthmatic and have other autoimmune issues, my son has reactive airways and has needed nebulizer treatment before, my husband has exercise induced asthma.

About 8% of adults and 8% of children in America have asthma. At this point obesity and high weight are also looking like risk factors - 42% of Americans are obese (not just overweight). The point isn’t that children are likely to get a serious case (although some can), it’s that they are very likely to spread it to others and people like to think THEY aren’t high risk but what about everyone else you would come in contact with? People not related to you? High risk co-workers who have no choice but to go back to work or lose their job? Low-wage workers who must work to survive?

We are in the same boat here (I'm asthmatic, as well), but, if DH and I both have to go back to work, we have no choice other than sending the kids to daycare. I'm paranoid as hell about it, but neither of us can afford to lose our jobs. I suspect there are far more people like us in this country than those who can afford to just stay home for a year, hire a nanny, etc.

I totally get that, my response was more about the person who didn’t understand why others are “fearful” - to that person I say wake up - almost half the country is high risk from obesity alone. Acting like it’s weird for people to be “fearful” is extremely self-centered.

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Anonymous wrote:We will send ours kids when they open. The data in the US is showing it is very low risk for kids, DH and I don’t have any risk factors so it is also very low risk for our household. We are still not going to be visiting grandparents, which would be the reason I would keep them out.

I don’t understand what everyone is so fearful about with their kids, unless you have a high risk person living with you. At this point, I think Hogan is being responsible about closing things down to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. If they open the daycare, I feel that they will be following the scientific/medical guidance on managing the community spread, and will close again when they need to.

I’m asthmatic and have other autoimmune issues, my son has reactive airways and has needed nebulizer treatment before, my husband has exercise induced asthma.

About 8% of adults and 8% of children in America have asthma. At this point obesity and high weight are also looking like risk factors - 42% of Americans are obese (not just overweight). The point isn’t that children are likely to get a serious case (although some can), it’s that they are very likely to spread it to others and people like to think THEY aren’t high risk but what about everyone else you would come in contact with? People not related to you? High risk co-workers who have no choice but to go back to work or lose their job? Low-wage workers who must work to survive?

We are in the same boat here (I'm asthmatic, as well), but, if DH and I both have to go back to work, we have no choice other than sending the kids to daycare. I'm paranoid as hell about it, but neither of us can afford to lose our jobs. I suspect there are far more people like us in this country than those who can afford to just stay home for a year, hire a nanny, etc.

Anonymous wrote:A five-year-old just died from the virus in Michigan. She had no prexisting conditions. Her mother was law enforcement and her father a firefighter. Her mother said, “the numbers are low until it’s your child”.

We are holding off returning our toddler to daycare until there is absolutely no other alternative.

That’s sad. But doesn’t really change anything in my mind. Odds are low your kid will die in a car crash, but you wouldn’t hesitate driving. Odds are low she will drown and you take her swimming. Etc.

If we are requiring virtually no risk, it will be a very long time before the country gets open again.

Anonymous wrote:We will send ours kids when they open. The data in the US is showing it is very low risk for kids, DH and I don’t have any risk factors so it is also very low risk for our household. We are still not going to be visiting grandparents, which would be the reason I would keep them out.

I don’t understand what everyone is so fearful about with their kids, unless you have a high risk person living with you. At this point, I think Hogan is being responsible about closing things down to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. If they open the daycare, I feel that they will be following the scientific/medical guidance on managing the community spread, and will close again when they need to.

I’m asthmatic and have other autoimmune issues, my son has reactive airways and has needed nebulizer treatment before, my husband has exercise induced asthma.

About 8% of adults and 8% of children in America have asthma. At this point obesity and high weight are also looking like risk factors - 42% of Americans are obese (not just overweight). The point isn’t that children are likely to get a serious case (although some can), it’s that they are very likely to spread it to others and people like to think THEY aren’t high risk but what about everyone else you would come in contact with? People not related to you? High risk co-workers who have no choice but to go back to work or lose their job? Low-wage workers who must work to survive?

Anonymous wrote:We will send ours kids when they open. The data in the US is showing it is very low risk for kids, DH and I don’t have any risk factors so it is also very low risk for our household. We are still not going to be visiting grandparents, which would be the reason I would keep them out.

I don’t understand what everyone is so fearful about with their kids, unless you have a high risk person living with you. At this point, I think Hogan is being responsible about closing things down to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. If they open the daycare, I feel that they will be following the scientific/medical guidance on managing the community spread, and will close again when they need to.

Have you seen the video of the 4 year old with the COVID cough? It is gut wrenching. I cannot imagine watching my child go through it. The way COVID makes people get worse and worse despite support is scary. We hardly know anything about this virus yet, including the factors that lead to someone being asymptomatic vs. a severe case. We know who is at more risk for the flu and we have a vaccine that reduces the likelihood of needing hospitalization. I don’t know when I will feel safe sending my kids back into the petri dishes of germs at school and daycare. Like a PP said, stats matter little when it’s your kid gasping for air.

Our daycare is technically open but we’re in CA and the law is no moving from room to room and no changing teachers during the day and no mixing of groups. I think it has to be 6 or fewer children per group. We’re both working so we paid our tuition (they’re also set up to make meals for elderly and help in other ways). The director told me they are only open to accommodate children of doctors, nurses, grocery store workers etc (anyone who is essential). I don’t want my children around people whose children may be carriers. I’m not sure the daycare would allow it now anyway. I assume work will stay closed / wfh as long as schools and / or camps are closed and that I’ll have to cover my 7 year old’s care anyway so I’ll keep the 3 year old home for now. I think if cases were rare and temps were taken every day and we were sending our older DD to school or camp (ie exposed anyway) I might reconsider.

Before official shelter in place orders I had my DD running around outside. Another little girl game over and ran around. Her parents are doctors at 2 different hospitals and it made me very nervous.

A five-year-old just died from the virus in Michigan. She had no prexisting conditions. Her mother was law enforcement and her father a firefighter. Her mother said, “the numbers are low until it’s your child”.

We are holding off returning our toddler to daycare until there is absolutely no other alternative.

We will send ours kids when they open. The data in the US is showing it is very low risk for kids, DH and I don’t have any risk factors so it is also very low risk for our household. We are still not going to be visiting grandparents, which would be the reason I would keep them out.

I don’t understand what everyone is so fearful about with their kids, unless you have a high risk person living with you. At this point, I think Hogan is being responsible about closing things down to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. If they open the daycare, I feel that they will be following the scientific/medical guidance on managing the community spread, and will close again when they need to.

Anonymous wrote:Ours is back at daycare this week. The risk of coronovirus serious enough to require hospitalization in their age range is less than the seasonal flu. And as far as transmitting, we have zero contact with older relatives, neighbors, etc. and always wear masks during the inevitable occasional store visit. We are comfortable with the risk.

Same, ours went back to in-home daycare last week. There is one other family there. Clearly a risk involved in this, but one we are comfortable with. But, as I am finding out from all this, I think I must have a high risk tolerance! Totally understand if you/your family comes to a different conclusion.

Right now, ours is scheduled to reopen the week before I will be delivering DD#2. Of course, I assume that will change and they will adjust their reopening date again for some time later in May, but I just don't know.
DD#1, 4yo, loves the school. It is a perfect fit for her, and we were planning enroll DD#2 there when my maternity leave ends in July. Now, I just don't know. We can't afford a nanny, have not had luck finding a nanny share nearby that will take 2 kids (and that I trust), and I prefer DD#1 to get the social interaction at daycare (she's very outgoing and thrives around others). Family care is out of the question - my parents would very happily help out for a while, but they are high risk for COVID due to age.
I assume we will have to send both DDs to daycare once I return to work. We will be paying full cost until that point, unfortunately, to hold our spot.

I have no idea. I don't even know when ours will be back open. It's one thing to open schools/colleges, daycare is a whole other matter- under the best of circumstances, they are a petri dish of illnesses. All it takes is one kid with COVID to knock down a bunch of parents/caregivers (hopefully most kids would be ok).

So, when ours reopens, I don't think we will send DD back right away. I think we will wait and see if there is a big uptick in infections and what precautions they take.

It seems like getting COVID-19 at some point is inevitable, but I'm not quite at the point of gambling that if I get and/or if DH gets it it "won't be that bad." I was really sick with the flu this year (bedridden) and I really don't think I could have safely cared for DD. If DH and I were both like that . . . . It's not like we could call in the grandparents or a friend.

So I really don't know.

I feel like daycares aren't getting as much coverage because kids are generally not really sick with COVID and their education hasn't been as visibly disrupted as older kids, but in some ways I feel like daycare parents have the tougher decision about when to send kids back. It's not like you can tell a 15-month old to sit 6 feet apart, wear a mask, and don't lick things.

Anonymous wrote:Ours is back at daycare this week. The risk of coronovirus serious enough to require hospitalization in their age range is less than the seasonal flu. And as far as transmitting, we have zero contact with older relatives, neighbors, etc. and always wear masks during the inevitable occasional store visit. We are comfortable with the risk.

I could never be comfortable with that risk for myself, my child or my husband. It’s a painful virus even if not fatal. I’d far rather continue to get up at 4AM to Gervinho some work in before my toddler wakes up and stay up late finishing it.

We’re holding back, OP, even after our daycare reopens.

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Anonymous wrote:Ours is back at daycare this week. The risk of coronovirus serious enough to require hospitalization in their age range is less than the seasonal flu. And as far as transmitting, we have zero contact with older relatives, neighbors, etc. and always wear masks during the inevitable occasional store visit. We are comfortable with the risk.

This is an honest response and will probably get shamed. What percent of other families there also sent their kids in?

Ours is theoretically reopening and we’re weighing the options. We have two kids and one of us is an “essential employee” still going into work daily, so the other is watching both kids while “teleworking.”

About half the families are back but it’s a small daycare to begin with. We are a bit worried it’s going to go out of business because some parents have completely withdrawn their kids for the time being (which is of course understandable - if you are not going to send your kid,
it’s hard for many parents to keep paying monthly daycare fees - but it also hurts the daycare. Tough situation for everyone). Hopefully they manage to get one of those small business grants from the stimulus.

Anonymous wrote:Ours is back at daycare this week. The risk of coronovirus serious enough to require hospitalization in their age range is less than the seasonal flu. And as far as transmitting, we have zero contact with older relatives, neighbors, etc. and always wear masks during the inevitable occasional store visit. We are comfortable with the risk.

This is an honest response and will probably get shamed. What percent of other families there also sent their kids in?

Ours is theoretically reopening and we’re weighing the options. We have two kids and one of us is an “essential employee” still going into work daily, so the other is watching both kids while “teleworking.”

Ours is back at daycare this week. The risk of coronovirus serious enough to require hospitalization in their age range is less than the seasonal flu. And as far as transmitting, we have zero contact with older relatives, neighbors, etc. and always wear masks during the inevitable occasional store visit. We are comfortable with the risk.