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Anonymous wrote:My handyman/friend is African-American, 53-years-old, 9 kids, 4 grandkids, and lives in the projects in Columbia Heights. He calls me for, "real news." He told me the word on the street is that the government is inventing the coronavirus to make a vaccine that's injected into black people to kill them. They're all sticking together in the projects where social capital is high and sense of community is strong. I think this is helping to spread it. They're more afraid of the government than they are the virus. Anyone on else hearing this from their friends in the projects?

That's a crazy, awful rumor.

This sounds like something my rural anti-vaccine, anti-government 79 year old mom has been saying. Except she's white.

Anonymous wrote:It's not affecting AAs disproportionately. It's affecting unhealthy people in general.

False.

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Anonymous wrote:Disparities in racial healthcare likely has a role as well. It has also been noted that black patients symptoms are not always treated as accurately or taken as seriously as other races. Serena Williams even with her celebrity had issues post partum with her health issues not being seriously treated.

Any specific details about Serena?

Serena wrote about this right after she was pregnant. Google is your friend.

Anonymous wrote:My handyman/friend is African-American, 53-years-old, 9 kids, 4 grandkids, and lives in the projects in Columbia Heights. He calls me for, "real news." He told me the word on the street is that the government is inventing the coronavirus to make a vaccine that's injected into black people to kill them. They're all sticking together in the projects where social capital is high and sense of community is strong. I think this is helping to spread it. They're more afraid of the government than they are the virus. Anyone on else hearing this from their friends in the projects?

That's a crazy, awful rumor.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disparities in racial healthcare likely has a role as well. It has also been noted that black patients symptoms are not always treated as accurately or taken as seriously as other races. Serena Williams even with her celebrity had issues post partum with her health issues not being seriously treated.

Any specific details about Serena?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/opinions/protect-mother-pregnancy-williams-opinion/index.html

Thank you.

If she's stating facts, why does she omit the name of the incompetent doctor? This is obviously critical information.

My handyman/friend is African-American, 53-years-old, 9 kids, 4 grandkids, and lives in the projects in Columbia Heights. He calls me for, "real news." He told me the word on the street is that the government is inventing the coronavirus to make a vaccine that's injected into black people to kill them. They're all sticking together in the projects where social capital is high and sense of community is strong. I think this is helping to spread it. They're more afraid of the government than they are the virus. Anyone on else hearing this from their friends in the projects?

Have a friend who works in hospital mgt in Detroit and Chicago poorest areas and they have been seeing this building for weeks. There is a reason Public Health officials point to these hot spots.

The hot spots at highest risks in the country are dense urban areas with poor populations. AA community has higher rates of diabetes, heart disease as well as obesity , asthma. All issues this virus hits disproportionately. Further, those conditions are generally not well treated compared to other americans. Anecdotally, poorer population does not have medical records or known pre-existing when entering hospital and enter the hospital very late.

When looking at Michigan, focus on Detroit which is 82% african american, not the state. Look up the other cities with the highest AA / poor populations. Those are risk areas, including Baltimore. DC is very different than Baltimore.

Other factors / Intangibles - how effective is public health, front line workers / use public transport as cited by other pp, ability to buy supplies, etc. How quickly do they go the hospital? get tested etc.

In looking at short term urgent solutions, poor AA populations utilize public health services during pregnancy, - what can we learn from that? How can address education for these populations? Who is the community - or broader community (sports) support education on this? How can we get supplies to them quickly?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Social distancing is a privilege.

here we go again...

Proof:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/03/us/coronavirus-stay-home-rich-poor.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


Location Data Says It All: Staying at Home During Coronavirus Is a Luxury
By Jennifer Valentino-DeVries, Denise Lu and Gabriel J.X. DanceApril 3, 2020

It has been about two weeks since the Illinois governor ordered residents to stay at home, but nothing has changed about Adarra Benjamin’s responsibilities. She gets on a bus nearly every morning in Chicago, traveling 20 miles round trip some days to cook, clean and shop for her clients, who are older or have health problems that make such tasks difficult.

Ms. Benjamin knows the dangers, but she needs her job, which pays about $13 an hour. She also cannot imagine leaving her clients to fend for themselves. “They’ve become my family,” she said.

In cities across America, many lower-income workers continue to move around, while those who make more money are staying home and limiting their exposure to the coronavirus, according to smartphone location data analyzed by The New York Times.

I don't think it's an AA issue as much as a low income issue. It's in how the data is interpreted. Are there statistics on how it's affecting the Latino community? Is there a socioeconomic model?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Disparities in racial healthcare likely has a role as well. It has also been noted that black patients symptoms are not always treated as accurately or taken as seriously as other races. Serena Williams even with her celebrity had issues post partum with her health issues not being seriously treated.

Any specific details about Serena?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/opinions/protect-mother-pregnancy-williams-opinion/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:It's not affecting AAs disproportionately. It's affecting unhealthy people in general.

33% of Illinois Covid cases are AA. 13% of the Illinois population is black.
40% of the Michigan cases are AA. 13% of the Michigan population is black.

I do take your point that "unhealthy" people are more likely to get it, and due to a variety of factors there is a higher rate of obesity, hypertension, asthma, etc among the black population. But race is a factor here too.

It'd probably be slightly better to measure the racial ratios for the immediate area rather than statewide. Detroit metro area, not all of MI. Chicago metro area, not all of Illinois. The rural parts of those states are overwhelmingly white and that skews things somewhat.

If race is a factor then how does it explain all the deaths in Italy and Spain and France?

There can be different risk factors in different areas of the world.

Umm no. That is not how a virus works. Its simply a factor of its spreading in person-to-person contact and hitting individuals in high density areas who can't or won't shelter-in-place.

End of. The UK is about to hit 1,000 deaths a day by Easter (with only a population of 30 million). 80% of the dead there are white.

They're doing far worse off than Michigan because the virus jumps to whoever it can. So stay home and you'll be safe.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the melanin level of a person's skin is making them more or less susceptible to covid. But, rather, the factors that contribute to disparate health conditions among racial groups in the US are contributing to higher numbers of covid cases among AAs. In the UK, health care is (more or less) universal, for starters. Racial dynamics are different in different countries -- and states, frankly -- and so you'd need to look at racial disparities in covid cases based on the context of that country.

Anonymous wrote:Disparities in racial healthcare likely has a role as well. It has also been noted that black patients symptoms are not always treated as accurately or taken as seriously as other races. Serena Williams even with her celebrity had issues post partum with her health issues not being seriously treated.

This. (In addition to some of the other things discussed.) people discount the differences in healthcare.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not affecting AAs disproportionately. It's affecting unhealthy people in general.

Yes.

Also a lot of people who are refusing to not go to church or community gatherings (usually church or synanogue related).

It has hit the Jewish community harshly as well as the ultra Christians like the Hillsong Church and the Southern Baptists in Louisiana.

Exactly. If effects those more who have diabetes, asthma, or overweight.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not affecting AAs disproportionately. It's affecting unhealthy people in general.

33% of Illinois Covid cases are AA. 13% of the Illinois population is black.
40% of the Michigan cases are AA. 13% of the Michigan population is black.

I do take your point that "unhealthy" people are more likely to get it, and due to a variety of factors there is a higher rate of obesity, hypertension, asthma, etc among the black population. But race is a factor here too.

It'd probably be slightly better to measure the racial ratios for the immediate area rather than statewide. Detroit metro area, not all of MI. Chicago metro area, not all of Illinois. The rural parts of those states are overwhelmingly white and that skews things somewhat.

If race is a factor then how does it explain all the deaths in Italy and Spain and France?

There can be different risk factors in different areas of the world.

Umm no. That is not how a virus works. Its simply a factor of its spreading in person-to-person contact and hitting individuals in high density areas who can't or won't shelter-in-place.

End of. The UK is about to hit 1,000 deaths a day by Easter (with only a population of 30 million). 80% of the dead there are white.

They're doing far worse off than Michigan because the virus jumps to whoever it can. So stay home and you'll be safe.

Anonymous wrote:Disparities in racial healthcare likely has a role as well. It has also been noted that black patients symptoms are not always treated as accurately or taken as seriously as other races. Serena Williams even with her celebrity had issues post partum with her health issues not being seriously treated.

Any specific details about Serena?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Social distancing is a privilege.

here we go again...

Proof:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/03/us/coronavirus-stay-home-rich-poor.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage


Location Data Says It All: Staying at Home During Coronavirus Is a Luxury
By Jennifer Valentino-DeVries, Denise Lu and Gabriel J.X. DanceApril 3, 2020

It has been about two weeks since the Illinois governor ordered residents to stay at home, but nothing has changed about Adarra Benjamin’s responsibilities. She gets on a bus nearly every morning in Chicago, traveling 20 miles round trip some days to cook, clean and shop for her clients, who are older or have health problems that make such tasks difficult.

Ms. Benjamin knows the dangers, but she needs her job, which pays about $13 an hour. She also cannot imagine leaving her clients to fend for themselves. “They’ve become my family,” she said.

In cities across America, many lower-income workers continue to move around, while those who make more money are staying home and limiting their exposure to the coronavirus, according to smartphone location data analyzed by The New York Times.