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Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

For many people it's not learning something new, it's learning yet another new platform at a time when everything is new.

And even setting aside how easy Teams is, it isn't as conducive for live classes since it doesn't have break out rooms like Zoom.

DO

Both Teams and Zoom were new to me. It makes more sense to learn just one platform, and Teams is the one that the school is using to send assignments, etc. Why would I also want to learn Zoom? And I have yet to see live teaching. We get recorded videos of our teachers teaching.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

For many people it's not learning something new, it's learning yet another new platform at a time when everything is new.

And even setting aside how easy Teams is, it isn't as conducive for live classes since it doesn't have break out rooms like Zoom.

DO

How many teachers are doing break out rooms? No teacher in my school is doing that. We don't even have live classes.

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Anonymous wrote:My federal government laptop will not connect to Zoom. There are clearly security holes and the Feds are blocking access.

Zoom is weird in that it launches a .exe file when you launch a session from a laptop or desktop computer. It's not a normal streaming video.

There are also rumors of connections between the company and the Chinese government.

I am totally happy if the Chinese government learns about my calls with my mother in the midwest.

They don't care about that. They likely want to map relationships between US citizens and gain access to your hard drive/OS. They could remotely deploy your zombie computer as part of a cyber attack (bot-net) or gain access to personal information. It's concerning that a lot of US companies are using Zoom since it exposes them to corporate espionage.

Most companies do business in China and the Chinese already make them hand over most of their secrets, so it's not like many of them care about this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

For many people it's not learning something new, it's learning yet another new platform at a time when everything is new.

And even setting aside how easy Teams is, it isn't as conducive for live classes since it doesn't have break out rooms like Zoom.

DO

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Good leadership exposes you to liability for using an unsecured network? It sounds like you are just salty over having to learn something new. They just gave a week to change. If your leadership had given you the correct info when they got it you would have had two weeks. Or could have changed in a day like I did (and I had literally never heard of Teams before this). Teams is NOT hard.

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS sent guidance on March 23 that Zoom was not allowed and teachers should use Teams. Like everything else, some schools listened and some did what they wanted.

Can you please share the guidance from March 23rd that said Zoom was not allowed? I cannot find it in my DCPS email.

Some schools listened and some schools didn't? Are you listening to yourself right now?

Let's see: school gets cancelled on March 16th. The guidance gets sent in March 23rd. Distance learning begins March 24th. Guess why schools started using zoom! Because DCPS released any of that guidance well after all of the planning for online learning had already taken place.

Why so aggressive? PP asked a question. Calm down.

+1

Unnecessarily hostile to a legitimate question. Thank you to the poster who actually did answer the question by posting the directive.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

+1

Never saw that memo.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My federal government laptop will not connect to Zoom. There are clearly security holes and the Feds are blocking access.

Zoom is weird in that it launches a .exe file when you launch a session from a laptop or desktop computer. It's not a normal streaming video.

There are also rumors of connections between the company and the Chinese government.

I am totally happy if the Chinese government learns about my calls with my mother in the midwest.

They don't care about that. They likely want to map relationships between US citizens and gain access to your hard drive/OS. They could remotely deploy your zombie computer as part of a cyber attack (bot-net) or gain access to personal information. It's concerning that a lot of US companies are using Zoom since it exposes them to corporate espionage.

Anonymous wrote:My federal government laptop will not connect to Zoom. There are clearly security holes and the Feds are blocking access.

Zoom is weird in that it launches a .exe file when you launch a session from a laptop or desktop computer. It's not a normal streaming video.

There are also rumors of connections between the company and the Chinese government.

I am totally happy if the Chinese government learns about my calls with my mother in the midwest.

My federal government laptop will not connect to Zoom. There are clearly security holes and the Feds are blocking access.

Zoom is weird in that it launches a .exe file when you launch a session from a laptop or desktop computer. It's not a normal streaming video.

There are also rumors of connections between the company and the Chinese government.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guidance was not sent directly to teachers and many might still have never received it. At our school it as only sent to ALT members.

Then that’s on school leadership. I’m a teacher and I received it from my principal.

So what if it's "on" school leadership? That sounds like good leadership, actually. School was canceled on the 13th, teachers met to plan on the 16th, distance learning starts on the 24th and this guidance came on the 23rd to some people... after teachers had been planning all "spring break" about what to do.

It's a disrespectful ask by the 23rd and bordering misconduct to now say switch over for reasoning that is murky at best and doesn't even work at worst.

Anonymous wrote:What about people who don’t have cable?

They could put the lessons on youtube as well. And you don't need cable for public access--you can get it with an over the air antenna.

I don't know how many families in DC lack internet (even on their phones) and TV entirely but it's a pretty small group. They could still pick up the packets at the feeding sites and their teachers can still check in with them by phone.

Families that want to fall completely off the grid at this point probably can. I worry we're going to find some Banita Jacks-type situations when this is all done. OSSE should have all the LEAs report on kids who just don't show back up when classes start and notify CFSA so they can check in.

Anonymous wrote:What about people who don’t have cable?

I believe they’re also uploading recordings to the DC Public Schools YouTube channel. Yesterday’s K video is out there. https://youtu.be/fQdlOfd59FQ

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS sent guidance on March 23 that Zoom was not allowed and teachers should use Teams. Like everything else, some schools listened and some did what they wanted.

Can you please share the guidance from March 23rd that said Zoom was not allowed? I cannot find it in my DCPS email.

Some schools listened and some schools didn't? Are you listening to yourself right now?

Let's see: school gets cancelled on March 16th. The guidance gets sent in March 23rd. Distance learning begins March 24th. Guess why schools started using zoom! Because DCPS released any of that guidance well after all of the planning for online learning had already taken place.

I know it’s weird, but when my employer says not to do something, I don’t do it. Crazy! My grade level team initially planned to use Zoom even though I was against it. By the time we started on the 24th, I was using Teams. It’s been 8 days. Schools should have transitioned already, but the reality is that nothing in DCPS is enforced, so it’s all about who is willing to flaunt rules vs follow them. It’s why I’m not allowed to make packets and Lafayette isn’t using them at all.

You mean “it’s all about the people that get sh*t done vs the people who only care about following rules.”

We can't win.

What about people who don’t have cable?