Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:47
Subject: Re:DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here? DC is the size of a city, whereas states are composed of multiple cities. Why should DC get as much? I'm not being snarky and I'm not republican, I'm just not sure Why DC should get the same amount when it's the size of a city?
It has a bigger population than several states and more covid cases than many states.
And DC pays WAY more in tax dollars per capita than many states. And it gets FAR less from the federal government, with this coronavirus bill a great example.
Imagine if San Francisco or Charleston, SC was cut off from a state and in this weird 'district' situation where:
- 700,000 people lived there
- the economy was very strong due to being both a govt and creative center with tech and legal services and journalism and research hospitals and universities
- due to the strong economy, residents paid high taxes
BUT
- they had no senators or reps to advocate for them
- due to no senators or reps, they continually got screwed and shortchanged by Congress
Imagine if you did that to SF or Charleston right now. People would scream bloody murder, and rightfully so.
It's easy to split DC into a capitol district that includes only federal land, and a real city that includes where everyone lives, which would be greater population than several states. And then make the city a state.
That would be good for the country, and it would be good for DC workers and DC schoolkids. The only people who it would be bad for are Mitch McConnell and his rightwing-billionaire donors, who would lose votes in the Senate. That's why conservatives don't want DC people to have real representation.
There’s a neat, easy and desirable solution. DC should rejoin Maryland. And who wouldn’t rather have a calm, practical and competent leader like Larry Hogan at the helm right now, versus Muriel Bowser?!
I see. All good points. I suppose they should have based the funding on the population.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:25
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Plus Maryland has effective senators with integrity like Cardin and Van Hollen. If DC were a state, corrupt halfwits like Bowser and Jack Evans would be DC senators.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:21
Subject: Re:DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here? DC is the size of a city, whereas states are composed of multiple cities. Why should DC get as much? I'm not being snarky and I'm not republican, I'm just not sure Why DC should get the same amount when it's the size of a city?
It has a bigger population than several states and more covid cases than many states.
And DC pays WAY more in tax dollars per capita than many states. And it gets FAR less from the federal government, with this coronavirus bill a great example.
Imagine if San Francisco or Charleston, SC was cut off from a state and in this weird 'district' situation where:
- 700,000 people lived there
- the economy was very strong due to being both a govt and creative center with tech and legal services and journalism and research hospitals and universities
- due to the strong economy, residents paid high taxes
BUT
- they had no senators or reps to advocate for them
- due to no senators or reps, they continually got screwed and shortchanged by Congress
Imagine if you did that to SF or Charleston right now. People would scream bloody murder, and rightfully so.
It's easy to split DC into a capitol district that includes only federal land, and a real city that includes where everyone lives, which would be greater population than several states. And then make the city a state.
That would be good for the country, and it would be good for DC workers and DC schoolkids. The only people who it would be bad for are Mitch McConnell and his rightwing-billionaire donors, who would lose votes in the Senate. That's why conservatives don't want DC people to have real representation.
There’s a neat, easy and desirable solution. DC should rejoin Maryland. And who wouldn’t rather have a calm, practical and competent leader like Larry Hogan at the helm right now, versus Muriel Bowser?!
Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:09
Subject: Re:DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here? DC is the size of a city, whereas states are composed of multiple cities. Why should DC get as much? I'm not being snarky and I'm not republican, I'm just not sure Why DC should get the same amount when it's the size of a city?
It has a bigger population than several states and more covid cases than many states.
And DC pays WAY more in tax dollars per capita than many states. And it gets FAR less from the federal government, with this coronavirus bill a great example.
Imagine if San Francisco or Charleston, SC was cut off from a state and in this weird 'district' situation where:
- 700,000 people lived there
- the economy was very strong due to being both a govt and creative center with tech and legal services and journalism and research hospitals and universities
- due to the strong economy, residents paid high taxes
BUT
- they had no senators or reps to advocate for them
- due to no senators or reps, they continually got screwed and shortchanged by Congress
Imagine if you did that to SF or Charleston right now. People would scream bloody murder, and rightfully so.
It's easy to split DC into a capitol district that includes only federal land, and a real city that includes where everyone lives, which would be greater population than several states. And then make the city a state.
That would be good for the country, and it would be good for DC workers and DC schoolkids. The only people who it would be bad for are Mitch McConnell and his rightwing-billionaire donors, who would lose votes in the Senate. That's why conservatives don't want DC people to have real representation.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:07
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
We should do commuter tax to make up for this. London does it.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:03
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
ALL AMERICANS except for the rich are getting screwed by this. The poor are not going to take this.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:02
Subject: Re:DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here? DC is the size of a city, whereas states are composed of multiple cities. Why should DC get as much? I'm not being snarky and I'm not republican, I'm just not sure Why DC should get the same amount when it's the size of a city?
Then the states that are smaller than DC should get less than DC.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 20:01
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with Congress giving DC less if Congress also is fine with DC residents not having to pay federal income tax, just like in the territories. Starting this year, with all residents who already filed getting refunds if they owed taxes.
Deal?
Again, you continue to live in this situation. That makes you unhappy. You are free to move to a state. It’s really hard to be sympathetic to a person that chooses to live in a place where they are being treated unfairly.
Shut up. No one expected this. No one can move today because of this.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 19:44
Subject: Re:DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:What am I missing here? DC is the size of a city, whereas states are composed of multiple cities. Why should DC get as much? I'm not being snarky and I'm not republican, I'm just not sure Why DC should get the same amount when it's the size of a city?
It has a bigger population than several states and more covid cases than many states.
Anonymous
03/26/2020 19:38
Subject: Re:DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
What am I missing here? DC is the size of a city, whereas states are composed of multiple cities. Why should DC get as much? I'm not being snarky and I'm not republican, I'm just not sure Why DC should get the same amount when it's the size of a city?
Anonymous
03/26/2020 19:31
Subject: Re:DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
And also a crackerjack car heist team to catch all the car thieves that plague this city
Anonymous
03/26/2020 17:23
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ok, but where is Bowser and her team and Eleanor Holmes Norton? They should have been all over this. The DC government at the top lever is literally better positioned than almost any stage or locality in the country to build relationships with hey members and committee staffs so that they are not caught so flat footed. I get that DC doesn’t have senators, but at the same time DC and Norton could be a lot more proactive, effective and, well, competent. Acting outraged and always playing the victim gets old after a while. Norton in particular was last her prime over a decade ago and needs to retire.
Yes, it’s a “both and” situation.
Bowser hasn’t been doing as much as other governors, notably Cuomo and Inslee. But she’s been doing a heck of a lot more than other governors, like TX and MS.
And Norton is getting old, that’s true. But if DC had two Senators PLUS a Rep, that would triple the voice DC had in Congress.
So both, and. Do both. More of both.
Our tax dollars are funding “shadow senators” clowns like Paul Strauss and ridiculous commercials for DC statehood, when they should be funding a crackerjack congressional liaison team in the DC government. They should be building working relationships all over the Hill, with members, staffers and including Republicans. The Capitol is not far from the Wilson Building, people! Instead, the mayor and council and their staffs as always reactive, not proactive. Sure, the mayor and Norton can go before the cameras, act outraged about being “disrespected,” but what do they accomplish?
Anonymous
03/26/2020 13:31
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Why can't our elected officials be more proactive? Why is it always reactive? I ama DC resident and angry that we always seem to be blindsided by stuff like this. Get it together, DC gov't!
Anonymous
03/26/2020 13:25
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm fine with Congress giving DC less if Congress also is fine with DC residents not having to pay federal income tax, just like in the territories. Starting this year, with all residents who already filed getting refunds if they owed taxes.
Deal?
Again, you continue to live in this situation. That makes you unhappy. You are free to move to a state. It’s really hard to be sympathetic to a person that chooses to live in a place where they are being treated unfairly.
PP, you are basically saying that there is no point in being upset about anything that is not a completely new problem. We are in a situation where the people who live in DC, many of whom live in poverty and can not afford to “just move” are having less aid provided to them. You seem to think that is perfectly fine and shouldn’t be called out as wrong because it’s happened before that DC got screwed in a big appropriation.
Be sympathetic to the DC resident medical staff who will care for people during this crisis while receiving less financial support than medical staff caring for sick people in MD and VA. These are PEOPLE. Where is your humanity?
Anonymous
03/26/2020 13:08
Subject: DC getting massively shortchanged in coronavirus bill by R Sens. DC needs to be a state.
Anonymous wrote:Ok, but where is Bowser and her team and Eleanor Holmes Norton? They should have been all over this. The DC government at the top lever is literally better positioned than almost any stage or locality in the country to build relationships with hey members and committee staffs so that they are not caught so flat footed. I get that DC doesn’t have senators, but at the same time DC and Norton could be a lot more proactive, effective and, well, competent. Acting outraged and always playing the victim gets old after a while. Norton in particular was last her prime over a decade ago and needs to retire.
Yes, it’s a “both and” situation.
Bowser hasn’t been doing as much as other governors, notably Cuomo and Inslee. But she’s been doing a heck of a lot more than other governors, like TX and MS.
And Norton is getting old, that’s true. But if DC had two Senators PLUS a Rep, that would triple the voice DC had in Congress.
So both, and. Do both. More of both.