What are we keeping them alive for if it’s the misery of isolation? A 70 year old, I get it. An 85 and up? A miserable life alone. Would rather be with my elders at the end than keep them in misery.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is the nursing staff and CNAs who are not sanitary. The things I have seen at these places would make most people sick. The CNAs are barley trained and they should not be assisting sick or elderly people at all. I hope all of this brings much needed attention to these facilities and they get their act together for the sake of the residents.

You need to register complaints and get a copy of the complaint form. Did you do that? It won't change, otherwise.

Yes, I have and the problem is that there is no real oversight.

+1. I regularly filed reports. Nothing every happened or changed.

I haven't seen my Mom in a week. She is worried about how the virus is going to affect the world and all the suffering from it.

I am worried because if she gets the virus, I'm pretty sure it will kill her. Very strange to wonder if we've had our last normal, face to face conversation. Will keep doing what I can to keep her safe, including no visits.

Anonymous wrote:Mom in nurising home in FL. Dad in independent living in same complex. They just announced NO VISITORS at all, including family, unless the individual is in end of life care.
Dad is distraught. He has spent the last year sitting by her bedside, mostly in the dark with the TV off, keeping vigil, eating lunch and dinner with her every night. I’m not worried about her care- I’m worried that my dad is so upset he doesn’t know what to do with himself.

I am so sorry. I hope these restrictions will lift soon. My heart goes out to you and your parents.

Anonymous wrote:My mom is in an independent senior facility where most are 70+ and many are 80+. They are taking no precautions!

They are living independently so many of the residents are coming and going like they usually do just like everyone else seems to be doing. There is no point in restricting visitors because the residents, themselves, are getting out and about.

I know that at my mom's independent living facility, the residents have the option of staying in their apartments and meals/toilet paper/supplies will be brought to them. The staff will wash/dry/fold their laundry, too, if that is needed.

If my own mom gets to the point where she self quarantines, I will be able to run her errands for her - pick up prescriptions and anything from the store that she might need. She is also very close to the hospital so if she gets sick and needs emergency care fast, she can get help quickly.

Nursing homes and assisted living are different types of environments where the residents are getting hands on care from the staff and are often in double occupancy rooms. They really can't completely self isolate because they do require assistance.

Mom in nurising home in FL. Dad in independent living in same complex. They just announced NO VISITORS at all, including family, unless the individual is in end of life care.
Dad is distraught. He has spent the last year sitting by her bedside, mostly in the dark with the TV off, keeping vigil, eating lunch and dinner with her every night. I’m not worried about her care- I’m worried that my dad is so upset he doesn’t know what to do with himself.

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I said most of the facilitaties are crappy. We did our best to choose a good one and will be paying $22K/month for it,

Most of the facilities around here are about $7k a month. What are you getting for $15k/month more?

We are keeping my mom in Manhattan (her preference) in a facility with 8 ppl per floor and each floor staffed 24/7 so when she wakes disoriented in the middle of the night and leaves her room there is someone right there. Also excursions and cultural visits from Alvin Alley and Julliard (although my mom doesn't really care about those). My parents saved their entire lives to enjoy their retirement. It is sad that this is what the money is being used on, but such is life.

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Anonymous wrote:My concern is the nursing staff and CNAs who are not sanitary. The things I have seen at these places would make most people sick. The CNAs are barley trained and they should not be assisting sick or elderly people at all. I hope all of this brings much needed attention to these facilities and they get their act together for the sake of the residents.

You need to register complaints and get a copy of the complaint form. Did you do that? It won't change, otherwise.

Yes, I have and the problem is that there is no real oversight.

I said most of the facilitaties are crappy. We did our best to choose a good one and will be paying $22K/month for it,

Most of the facilities around here are about $7k a month. What are you getting for $15k/month more?

Anonymous wrote:My concern is the nursing staff and CNAs who are not sanitary. The things I have seen at these places would make most people sick. The CNAs are barley trained and they should not be assisting sick or elderly people at all. I hope all of this brings much needed attention to these facilities and they get their act together for the sake of the residents.

You need to register complaints and get a copy of the complaint form. Did you do that? It won't change, otherwise.

Reading this article makes me very concerns about nursing home residents. Visits from family are not just about getting to see relatives. Families are often the ones providing care.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/health/nursing-homes-staffing-medicare.html

His wife has Alzheimer’s, uses a wheelchair and no longer talks. She enjoys music, and Mr. Hugo placed earphones on her head so she could listen to her favorite singers as he spoon-fed her lunch in the dining room on a recent Sunday.

As he does each day he visits, he counted each nursing assistant he saw tending residents, took a photograph of the official staffing log in the lobby and compared it to what he had observed. While he fed his wife, he noted two aides for the 40 residents on the floor — half what Medicare says is average at Beechtree.

“Weekends are terrible,” he said. While he’s regularly there overseeing his wife’s care, he wondered: “What about all these other residents? They don’t have people who come in.”

I work in a nursing home. We are doing FaceTime calls with family members who are now unable to visit.

My concern is the nursing staff and CNAs who are not sanitary. The things I have seen at these places would make most people sick. The CNAs are barley trained and they should not be assisting sick or elderly people at all. I hope all of this brings much needed attention to these facilities and they get their act together for the sake of the residents.

And you think its a bad decision to close to visitors during a time like this given the circumstances?

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like you did not put much thought into the facility if you think its crappy.

I'm the PP you are referencing. I said most of the facilitaties are crappy. We did our best to choose a good one and will be paying $22K/month for it, but there is really no way to know. ALFs aren't well regulated and visits the best way to check in and see if needs are being met, etc. There really aren't good options in a lot of situations.