Anonymous
02/21/2020 14:00
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Take a language course abroad over the summer and live with a local family.
Otherwise, tell him to get a job. Jeez some kids are so entitled! My mom would have laughed if I had proposed volunteering or doing an unpaid internship over the summer. She'd wonder how I was going to pay my bills.
Volunteer work makes one entitled?
As opposed to paid work, yes.
Only to an ignorant person.
Anonymous
02/21/2020 13:54
Subject: Re:If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:"One of the volunteer positions he is looking at (has not applied yet) involves working full time at a National Park. Some of the work would be "office work" but some would be outdoors (average temp in that area is above 90 and humid) doing heavy lifting and hiking trails. The schedule would include some evening and weekend work. Volunteer so no pay, but would be offered dorm style housing (it is not in our area so he couldn't commute from our house)"
He should apply to Philmont, the Scout high adventure camp in New Mexico. They have jobs in conservation and they had a fire a couple years back so they have plenty of work.
It's a little late for the best odds at getting a Philmont job but that is more about hounding them to find the department that still has slots.
Like most summer camps, they are kind of disorganized during the winter when they only have a few employees.
They will eventually hire over 1000 summer employees so the conservation department doesn't talk to maintenance or to the working part of the ranch.
Thank you! He is actually an Eagle Scout--not sure why I (or more appropriately, HE) didn't think about this!
Anonymous
02/21/2020 12:57
Subject: Re:If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
"One of the volunteer positions he is looking at (has not applied yet) involves working full time at a National Park. Some of the work would be "office work" but some would be outdoors (average temp in that area is above 90 and humid) doing heavy lifting and hiking trails. The schedule would include some evening and weekend work. Volunteer so no pay, but would be offered dorm style housing (it is not in our area so he couldn't commute from our house)"
He should apply to Philmont, the Scout high adventure camp in New Mexico. They have jobs in conservation and they had a fire a couple years back so they have plenty of work.
It's a little late for the best odds at getting a Philmont job but that is more about hounding them to find the department that still has slots.
Like most summer camps, they are kind of disorganized during the winter when they only have a few employees.
They will eventually hire over 1000 summer employees so the conservation department doesn't talk to maintenance or to the working part of the ranch.
He should apply to Philmont, the Scout high adventure camp in New Mexico. They have jobs in conservation and they had a fire a couple years back so they have plenty of work.
It's a little late for the best odds at getting a Philmont job but that is more about hounding them to find the department that still has slots.
Like most summer camps, they are kind of disorganized during the winter when they only have a few employees.
They will eventually hire over 1000 summer employees so the conservation department doesn't talk to maintenance or to the working part of the ranch.
Anonymous
02/21/2020 08:53
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Take a language course abroad over the summer and live with a local family.
Otherwise, tell him to get a job. Jeez some kids are so entitled! My mom would have laughed if I had proposed volunteering or doing an unpaid internship over the summer. She'd wonder how I was going to pay my bills.
Volunteer work makes one entitled?
Volunteering to do what? I agree with a PP about volunteer positions -- the ones that entitled teens do -- are not generally as serious as paying jobs.
OP here
One of the volunteer positions he is looking at (has not applied yet) involves working full time at a National Park. Some of the work would be "office work" but some would be outdoors (average temp in that area is above 90 and humid) doing heavy lifting and hiking trails. The schedule would include some evening and weekend work. Volunteer so no pay, but would be offered dorm style housing (it is not in our area so he couldn't commute from our house)
To me, that doesn't sound like conditions an entitled person would consider...but I don't hire people so what do I know?
Anonymous
02/20/2020 20:52
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Take a language course abroad over the summer and live with a local family.
Otherwise, tell him to get a job. Jeez some kids are so entitled! My mom would have laughed if I had proposed volunteering or doing an unpaid internship over the summer. She'd wonder how I was going to pay my bills.
Volunteer work makes one entitled?
Volunteering to do what? I agree with a PP about volunteer positions -- the ones that entitled teens do -- are not generally as serious as paying jobs.
Anonymous
02/20/2020 18:33
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
You sound like an amazing parent and role model. That kid if
of yours sounds like he will go far (but I would keep some narcan On hand...just in case)
of yours sounds like he will go far (but I would keep some narcan On hand...just in case)
Anonymous
02/20/2020 15:32
Subject: Re:If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
DS got a gig working for Harry Styles year long concert tour. Best job ever. Lot of booze, drugs and pretty women.
Anonymous
02/20/2020 14:58
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Take a language course abroad over the summer and live with a local family.
Otherwise, tell him to get a job. Jeez some kids are so entitled! My mom would have laughed if I had proposed volunteering or doing an unpaid internship over the summer. She'd wonder how I was going to pay my bills.
Volunteer work makes one entitled?
As opposed to paid work, yes.
Damn, I'm so grateful for "entitled" people who have sacrificed their own time to help others.
Volunteering should be in addition to paid work, not replacing it. A job shows a level of maturity that goes beyond volunteering, since a volunteer organization will give you more leeway on performance than will an employer. When you are costing an organization money, you have to make sure that you are performing to the highest level--showing up on time and doing your job well.
Well I certainly agree that if when you've volunteered, you do not show up on time or care about your job performance, that you absolutely sound entitled.
That's definitely not how I've ever been when I have volunteered, and I've never known other volunteers that act like that. Most volunteers take their roles seriously.
Anonymous
02/20/2020 14:42
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
I'd say summer job, but maybe a summer class as well. I took some gen ed requirement credits over the summer at a community college. The classes were easy, cheap, and transferable. They allowed me to take lighter semester loads while having a difficult major.
Anonymous
02/20/2020 14:39
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Take a language course abroad over the summer and live with a local family.
Otherwise, tell him to get a job. Jeez some kids are so entitled! My mom would have laughed if I had proposed volunteering or doing an unpaid internship over the summer. She'd wonder how I was going to pay my bills.
Volunteer work makes one entitled?
As opposed to paid work, yes.
Damn, I'm so grateful for "entitled" people who have sacrificed their own time to help others.
Volunteering should be in addition to paid work, not replacing it. A job shows a level of maturity that goes beyond volunteering, since a volunteer organization will give you more leeway on performance than will an employer. When you are costing an organization money, you have to make sure that you are performing to the highest level--showing up on time and doing your job well.
Anonymous
02/20/2020 14:30
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Take a language course abroad over the summer and live with a local family.
Otherwise, tell him to get a job. Jeez some kids are so entitled! My mom would have laughed if I had proposed volunteering or doing an unpaid internship over the summer. She'd wonder how I was going to pay my bills.
Volunteer work makes one entitled?
As opposed to paid work, yes.
Damn, I'm so grateful for "entitled" people who have sacrificed their own time to help others.
Anonymous
02/20/2020 14:20
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Take a language course abroad over the summer and live with a local family.
Otherwise, tell him to get a job. Jeez some kids are so entitled! My mom would have laughed if I had proposed volunteering or doing an unpaid internship over the summer. She'd wonder how I was going to pay my bills.
Volunteer work makes one entitled?
As opposed to paid work, yes.
Anonymous
02/20/2020 12:49
Subject: If a college student is unable to get an internship for the summer, what else?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Summer jobs, even in retail, camp, etc. have the potential for the following transferrable skills:
Multi-tasking
Customer relations, which translates to client skills
Responsibility
Reliability
Accountability
And as a hirer, i’d prefer someone with these skills over someone who spent a summer making copies and playing minesweeper in an internship
OP here.
It wouldn't be like that. I don't want to get too specific, but the internships he's applied for involve a lot of full days of physical labor. Think along the lines of a forestry major doing an internship at a State Forest, required to live on site/primitive camping, etc.
He does have a little "paid work" experience from last summer when his job was more along the lines of ice cream shop/admissions cashier at a water park.