Anonymous
02/04/2020 18:47
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I thought that all the old studies saying eggs and all red meat was bad for you were debunked. Lean red meats, especially bison, emu and lean cuts are supposed to be healthy. Eggs are considered healthy now too.
Links? Please educate us, oh enlightened one.
Indeed! Educate us please! I love meat, but even grandma knew that we should eat mostly veggies and fed us veggies. She was born in 1910 and loved bacon that her family made from their own pigs. She also knew it was a treat. Real scientists promote predominantly plant based diets. This keto nonsense needs to stop. It will be the bane of health issues just like sugar and simple carbs are today.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 18:34
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Anonymous wrote:Some of the chubbiest, unhealthiest people that I know are vegetarians. I guess its all the starch and carbs like sweet potatoes, rice, potatoes, pasta etc.
The best way to be more environmental is to buy local, cook from scratch and ditch all the packaged foods, plan what you cook so you don't waste food and embrace filtered tap water. Other good ways to be environmental is to buy less crap, work from home, don't remodel your home, and if you have to buy something like furniture or clothing then buy second hand.
You are not saving the environment chowing down on TJ's packaged frozen vegetarian meals, having a zillion things shipped to your house via amazon or drugstore.com, and taking Uber whenever it rains, snows, is hot, is cold, tearing out your 1980s or 1990s cabinets and replacing with Ikea etc.
OP said "plant-based diet", not vegetarianism. NOT processed foods.
example:
https://www.amazon.com/Defense-Food-Michael-Pollan/dp/1594133328
Anonymous
02/04/2020 18:29
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
People often over indulge on carbs on vegetarian diets because they don't feel full for long. Potatoes, rice, pasta, and bread become the base of their diet and these foods have been shown to spike blood sugar making you crave more food.
A healthier diet has a modest amount of meats and dairy as well as some fats along with vegetables, fruits and grains but is much lower on the carb count and has very little sugar.
A healthier diet has a modest amount of meats and dairy as well as some fats along with vegetables, fruits and grains but is much lower on the carb count and has very little sugar.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 18:21
Subject: I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Because it is healthy? We always at mostly plants, a little bit of meat, except recently. Benefits of mostly plant based diet are well known. People have distorted their eating habits to make even veggies unhealthy and nasty. Simply, eat boiled potatoes, not potato chips. What's hard to understand?
Anonymous
02/04/2020 18:14
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Some of the chubbiest, unhealthiest people that I know are vegetarians. I guess its all the starch and carbs like sweet potatoes, rice, potatoes, pasta etc.
The best way to be more environmental is to buy local, cook from scratch and ditch all the packaged foods, plan what you cook so you don't waste food and embrace filtered tap water. Other good ways to be environmental is to buy less crap, work from home, don't remodel your home, and if you have to buy something like furniture or clothing then buy second hand.
You are not saving the environment chowing down on TJ's packaged frozen vegetarian meals, having a zillion things shipped to your house via amazon or drugstore.com, and taking Uber whenever it rains, snows, is hot, is cold, tearing out your 1980s or 1990s cabinets and replacing with Ikea etc.
The best way to be more environmental is to buy local, cook from scratch and ditch all the packaged foods, plan what you cook so you don't waste food and embrace filtered tap water. Other good ways to be environmental is to buy less crap, work from home, don't remodel your home, and if you have to buy something like furniture or clothing then buy second hand.
You are not saving the environment chowing down on TJ's packaged frozen vegetarian meals, having a zillion things shipped to your house via amazon or drugstore.com, and taking Uber whenever it rains, snows, is hot, is cold, tearing out your 1980s or 1990s cabinets and replacing with Ikea etc.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 17:49
Subject: I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Meat is just over. It's pretty revolting most of the time and once you stop cooking it, you don't have to worry about food safety too often in the kitchen. Makes life easier, and meat isn't very healthy to eat anyway...
Anonymous
02/04/2020 17:47
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
If the government is pushing hard for something then you best believe that it's harmful for you.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 17:17
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Anonymous wrote:Also I think the majority of people should just limit their meat intake to 4-8 oz a day and 1 cheat day a month for a big meat laden meal. I think that would go a long way. You don't have to do 100% plant based but it should be the majority of your diet.
Isn't this what normal non-vegetarians eat anyway? I don't know anyone who eats 16 ounces of beef a day. People usually eat a mix of beef, poultry, dairy, fish throughout the week with grains, vegetables, fruits etc.
Most non-vegetarians eat meat 2 to 3 meals a day. So they are clearly eating more than 4 to 8 ounces a day.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 17:15
Subject: I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
I was really surprised by the states -- the average american eats something like 10 oz of beef a day. I love good steak and hamburgers and I was appalled by that amount. I now try to limit myself to just about a 1/2 pound to a pound of red meat per month. I really only eat it if I *really* want it and it's *really* good. No more crappy roast beef sandwiches at the quick serve places. But I still do Sunday meatballs once a month, and filet mignon on holidays.
Grass fed beef is better than corn fed beef for your body and the environment, and bison is better than grass fed cows. Pork is apparently better than both, as they don't far as much (not a double stomach animal) and they are incredibly efficient at converting food inputs to edible meat, and don't poop as much as chickens (pound for pound).
Grass fed beef is better than corn fed beef for your body and the environment, and bison is better than grass fed cows. Pork is apparently better than both, as they don't far as much (not a double stomach animal) and they are incredibly efficient at converting food inputs to edible meat, and don't poop as much as chickens (pound for pound).
Anonymous
02/04/2020 17:01
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Also I think the majority of people should just limit their meat intake to 4-8 oz a day and 1 cheat day a month for a big meat laden meal. I think that would go a long way. You don't have to do 100% plant based but it should be the majority of your diet.
Isn't this what normal non-vegetarians eat anyway? I don't know anyone who eats 16 ounces of beef a day. People usually eat a mix of beef, poultry, dairy, fish throughout the week with grains, vegetables, fruits etc.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 16:59
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/no-beef-with-beef-if-its-lean
Lean beef if eaten in moderation is perfectly healthy for you.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/why-are-eggs-good-for-you
Eggs are one of the most nutritional foods on the planet.
Lean beef if eaten in moderation is perfectly healthy for you.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/why-are-eggs-good-for-you
Eggs are one of the most nutritional foods on the planet.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 16:54
Subject: I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Anonymous wrote:Plant-based diets are for stupid ideological zealots. It is hilarious that they're not actually healthy for you, especially if you eat those processed fake meats.
Yup, that’s why after you have a heart attack, your doctor recommends that you go eat steak!
Anonymous
02/04/2020 16:52
Subject: I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Cow farts are apparently bad for the environment. I can see why they'd be unpleasant but don't really understand why they're an actual problem.
https://www.thoughtco.com/methane-as-a-greenhouse-gas-4122208
Cows fart methane which is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2
So then you'd all be cool with it if we just got rid of all the cows, then?
I don't think you need to get rid of all the cows, you just don't have to mass produce them.
Also I think the majority of people should just limit their meat intake to 4-8 oz a day and 1 cheat day a month for a big meat laden meal. I think that would go a long way. You don't have to do 100% plant based but it should be the majority of your diet.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 16:46
Subject: Re:I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
Anonymous wrote:I thought that all the old studies saying eggs and all red meat was bad for you were debunked. Lean red meats, especially bison, emu and lean cuts are supposed to be healthy. Eggs are considered healthy now too.
Links? Please educate us, oh enlightened one.
Anonymous
02/04/2020 16:00
Subject: I don't understand the new push for plant based diets..
I’m surprised nobody has mentioned that 80% of antibiotics in this country are used on farm animals which are then used for meat production. This contributes to antibiotic resistance