Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 23:45     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If they are junk, then what would you recommend instead? Needs to be AWD and high off the ground. She does not like what I have recommended so far (RAV4 and Subaru Outback) although I think RAV4 might be the best choice.

I researched cars for my DD. We live in Los Angeles and to get to school, she has to traverse terrain that you would not expect in LA (going over a mountain and on some really windy roads with little-to-no shoulder (Sunset Blvd. and Mulholland Dr.)

She wanted a Jeep (Wrangler or Renegade). OP, please look at Consumer Reports on Jeep Safety. That car is shockingly dangerous.

The Toyota Highlander is always a good bet, but the "little sister" of the Highlander is the RAV4.

I had an older model Toyota Highlander (2007), but the newer models have gotten overly-big. We got her a 2017 RAV4--the RAVs have also gotten bigger, so now are the size of the original Highlanders.

It's a GREAT CAR, OP! We are so happy with it! I like it better than my Highlander, which I loved. Consumer Reports rates it very highly on performance and safety.


The new 2020 Wranglers get good safety ratings. Its shocking how little you know about it.


no they don't:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/jeep/wrangler/34192

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/mercedes-benz/glc/21987

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/toyota/rav4/35881


Those ratings are not accurate and look at electronics not actual crashes.

NHTSA rates it well.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 23:38     Subject: Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:Do you all own giant farms? Where do you drive your car off of the road? This is so strange.


There's lots of places to go off-roading. Virginia and Pennsylvania have numerous off-road parks specifically for driving off-road.

It's a lot of fun. That's probably what perplexes you - the idea that people do things that are fun.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 23:34     Subject: Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

I've owned 5 Jeeps OP.

If you have a specific question, ask me.

FWIW, the ONLY Jeep model I'd recommend is the Wrangler/Unlimited/Gladiator series. The rest of the Jeep line up just isn't that good.

I'd avoid Subaru, too. The CVT failures that are poised to happen in the next few years will make the current Subaru lineup sold in since 2013-to-present the least desirable cars on the market. Every single one of them is a ticking timebomb of an expensive repair.

A Subaru CVT replacement costs $6,900 on average. And almost every Subaru will need it at some point. After the warranty expires, of course.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 23:28     Subject: Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Do you all own giant farms? Where do you drive your car off of the road? This is so strange.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 23:27     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:BTW.. another cool car for college age kids is Mini cooper if you can afford one..
they are super cute..



College kids. Not 39 year old frumpy, never married law clerks and marketing mangers. Because those are literally the only people I know who drive Minis.

And they're repair nightmares too.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 23:25     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If they are junk, then what would you recommend instead? Needs to be AWD and high off the ground. She does not like what I have recommended so far (RAV4 and Subaru Outback) although I think RAV4 might be the best choice.

I researched cars for my DD. We live in Los Angeles and to get to school, she has to traverse terrain that you would not expect in LA (going over a mountain and on some really windy roads with little-to-no shoulder (Sunset Blvd. and Mulholland Dr.)

She wanted a Jeep (Wrangler or Renegade). OP, please look at Consumer Reports on Jeep Safety. That car is shockingly dangerous.

The Toyota Highlander is always a good bet, but the "little sister" of the Highlander is the RAV4.

I had an older model Toyota Highlander (2007), but the newer models have gotten overly-big. We got her a 2017 RAV4--the RAVs have also gotten bigger, so now are the size of the original Highlanders.

It's a GREAT CAR, OP! We are so happy with it! I like it better than my Highlander, which I loved. Consumer Reports rates it very highly on performance and safety.


The new 2020 Wranglers get good safety ratings. Its shocking how little you know about it.


no they don't:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/jeep/wrangler/34192

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/mercedes-benz/glc/21987

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/toyota/rav4/35881
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:49     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If they are junk, then what would you recommend instead? Needs to be AWD and high off the ground. She does not like what I have recommended so far (RAV4 and Subaru Outback) although I think RAV4 might be the best choice.

I researched cars for my DD. We live in Los Angeles and to get to school, she has to traverse terrain that you would not expect in LA (going over a mountain and on some really windy roads with little-to-no shoulder (Sunset Blvd. and Mulholland Dr.)

She wanted a Jeep (Wrangler or Renegade). OP, please look at Consumer Reports on Jeep Safety. That car is shockingly dangerous.

The Toyota Highlander is always a good bet, but the "little sister" of the Highlander is the RAV4.

I had an older model Toyota Highlander (2007), but the newer models have gotten overly-big. We got her a 2017 RAV4--the RAVs have also gotten bigger, so now are the size of the original Highlanders.

It's a GREAT CAR, OP! We are so happy with it! I like it better than my Highlander, which I loved. Consumer Reports rates it very highly on performance and safety.


The new 2020 Wranglers get good safety ratings. Its shocking how little you know about it.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:28     Subject: Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Chick car
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:28     Subject: Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Trendy embarrassing junk, fine if you're a sorority girl. Not safe.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:25     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:OP here. If they are junk, then what would you recommend instead? Needs to be AWD and high off the ground. She does not like what I have recommended so far (RAV4 and Subaru Outback) although I think RAV4 might be the best choice.

I researched cars for my DD. We live in Los Angeles and to get to school, she has to traverse terrain that you would not expect in LA (going over a mountain and on some really windy roads with little-to-no shoulder (Sunset Blvd. and Mulholland Dr.)

She wanted a Jeep (Wrangler or Renegade). OP, please look at Consumer Reports on Jeep Safety. That car is shockingly dangerous.

The Toyota Highlander is always a good bet, but the "little sister" of the Highlander is the RAV4.

I had an older model Toyota Highlander (2007), but the newer models have gotten overly-big. We got her a 2017 RAV4--the RAVs have also gotten bigger, so now are the size of the original Highlanders.

It's a GREAT CAR, OP! We are so happy with it! I like it better than my Highlander, which I loved. Consumer Reports rates it very highly on performance and safety.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:22     Subject: Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:Consider the VW Tiguan


Not even close to what is being asked.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:15     Subject: Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Consider the VW Tiguan
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:07     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:The newer models are safe. My 17 year old has a Jeep. My DH has a Jeep. It’s almost cult like. The Jeep wave, etc. They love them! And they have really come in handy. They have pulled friends and neighbors out of mud and snow many times. They are fun at the beach and off road. Maybe we’ve been lucky, but we have never had significant repair costs. My son’s Jeep is 9 years old. My DH’s is 6 years old. o|||||||o


There is nothing magic about a high center of gravity, PP. Vehicles that are higher off the ground will ALWAYS be more prone to rollover than vehicles that are lower to the ground. It's physics.

Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:05     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

The newer models are safe. My 17 year old has a Jeep. My DH has a Jeep. It’s almost cult like. The Jeep wave, etc. They love them! And they have really come in handy. They have pulled friends and neighbors out of mud and snow many times. They are fun at the beach and off road. Maybe we’ve been lucky, but we have never had significant repair costs. My son’s Jeep is 9 years old. My DH’s is 6 years old. o|||||||o
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2020 22:00     Subject: Re:Anyone know about Jeep? My dd wants to buy one

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. If they are junk, then what would you recommend instead? Needs to be AWD and high off the ground. She does not like what I have recommended so far (RAV4 and Subaru Outback) although I think RAV4 might be the best choice.


The higher it is the more rolling over it will do. Not safe. The "visibility" thing does not fly.



We almost rolled our Honda Element once when a car cut in front of us on the beltway. We were just incredibly lucky, felt the wheels lift off and my dh was able to get control. It's also harder to control when there is wind. Jeeps will also have a problem.

Why not a crv? Or RAV?