Anonymous
01/29/2020 17:10
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL U13 and U14 play the entire year. Beginning U15, ECNL takes the HS season off but still does showcases and tournaments during HS season.
For HS age girls, I don't think any of the local ECNL clubs "take HS season off" entirely. I wish folks who have no idea would stop promoting this misconception.
Each club is different, but most continue the normal or slightly reduced practice schedule, and actively manage fatigue on those players that are playing HS. As mentioned above, there are also tournaments, scrimmages, and various other events going on.
Yes, ECNL parent here, and I agree with the above. My ECNL HS player goes to private school so doesn't play HS soccer in the spring. In the spring, the players who are doing HS soccer are on a modified practice schedule to prevent overuse/injury. The kids not playing HS soccer (or spring sports) train together on a regular (3x per week) schedule - they combine players across the HS age groups to ensure critical mass. The teams still play in two spring showcases and have scrimmages and a few ECNL games. And yes, U13 and U14 play through the school year. Kids who are 8th graders but on a U15 team due to birthdate can play down with the U14s for the spring (trapped players).
In general is their any resentment (if that's the right word) towards the kids that play HS and don't train with the club team as much?
If you have every seen a high school game in VA you would know the answer. The level of play is very low for girls soccer. The play is slow and the skill set shown is very very low. So, no, the ECNL teams do not resent the players that go play HS as they are not major contributors to the ECNL team in the first place.
OK, so do the players resent the HS players because, instead of coming and training with the other ECNL girls, they are missing ECNL practices and training with the HS team and, thus, not improving as much or working as hard as the "dedicated" ECNL players.
Lol. You have lost all credibility. Go educate yourself and stay off the boards.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 17:04
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Westfield HS Girls soccer schedule: 14 games
SCHEDULE
Date Opponent Result
3/5
7:15p
West Potomac
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/11
7:15p
@ South Lakes
South Lakes High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/20
7:15p
@ Falls Church
Falls Church HS, Stadium
Preview Game
3/24
5:30p
West Springfield
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/26
7:15p
Lake Braddock
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/27
7:15p
Falls Church
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/30
5:30p
Yorktown
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/14
7:15p
@ Centreville
Centreville High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/16
7:15p
@ Madison
James Madison High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/20
7:15p
Oakton
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/24
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/30
7:15p
Centreville
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/5
7:15p
Madison
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/12
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly Hig
Date Opponent
Last year they played in 19 games
https://www.westfieldathletics.org/main/teamschedule/id/4028/seasonid/4419044
18-23 games depending on your schools division. Facts.
March 5th to May 29. 3 Months. Facts.
Facts?
2 seconds ago it was 20 seasonal games, 3 games a week for 4 months. Do you even have a clue?
Loudoun County HS (14 seasonal games)
SCHEDULE
Date Opponent Result
3/16
TBA
Briar Woods Preview Game
3/19
TBA
@ Riverside Preview Game
3/26
TBA
@ Tuscarora Preview Game
3/30
TBA
@ Broad Run Preview Game
4/2
TBA
@ Loudoun Valley Preview Game
4/16
TBA
@ Park View Preview Game
4/20
TBA
Dominion Preview Game
4/23
TBA
Heritage Preview Game
4/27
TBA
Tuscarora Preview Game
4/30
TBA
Broad Run Preview Game
5/4
TBA
Loudoun Valley Preview Game
5/11
TBA
Park View Preview Game
5/14
TBA
@ Dominion Preview Game
5/18
TBA
@ Heritage Preview Game
https://www.westfieldathletics.org/main/teamschedule/id/4028/seasonid/4419044
Last years schedule for Westfield.
I don't know what to tell you.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 17:03
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:DON"T PLAY!
IT'S THAT SIMPLE!
The OP asked the following:
thinking of doing ECNL next year for U12 DD but from what I'm reading I can't get a straight picture. You only play half a season in ECNL for a big cost? next soccer season my DD will only be in Middle school a middle school that doesn't even have a soccer team (fairfax county). what do you do in the off season? If your DD doesn't play HS does the club still do training? Thanks
The points regarding HS soccer are relevant to the OP in regards to understanding the league. ECNL hitched their wagon to HS soccer since GDA so it is pretty much a package deal if ECNL is the route they choose for their daughter.
For middle school it is not a big deal but for high school the facts that were pointed out are relevant.
Yes, the cost of ECNL is high.
Yes, the ECNL season is compressed to accommodate the HS season.
Yes, during the HS school season ECNL practices are limited, modified or outright skipped by players. Practices are blended with multiple age groups. Great if you are young training with older kids not great if your DD is an older kid playing with younger kids. (Kinda the same with HS soccer)
Yes, with an abbreviated ECNL season that during the HS season that encompasses two showcases the opportunity cost is high in regards to the unused training fees.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 17:00
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Westfield HS Girls soccer schedule: 14 games
SCHEDULE
Date Opponent Result
3/5
7:15p
West Potomac
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/11
7:15p
@ South Lakes
South Lakes High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/20
7:15p
@ Falls Church
Falls Church HS, Stadium
Preview Game
3/24
5:30p
West Springfield
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/26
7:15p
Lake Braddock
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/27
7:15p
Falls Church
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/30
5:30p
Yorktown
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/14
7:15p
@ Centreville
Centreville High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/16
7:15p
@ Madison
James Madison High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/20
7:15p
Oakton
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/24
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/30
7:15p
Centreville
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/5
7:15p
Madison
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/12
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly Hig
Date Opponent
Last year they played in 19 games
https://www.westfieldathletics.org/main/teamschedule/id/4028/seasonid/4419044
18-23 games depending on your schools division. Facts.
March 5th to May 29. 3 Months. Facts.
Facts?
2 seconds ago it was 20 seasonal games, 3 games a week for 4 months. Do you even have a clue?
Loudoun County HS (14 seasonal games)
SCHEDULE
Date Opponent Result
3/16
TBA
Briar Woods Preview Game
3/19
TBA
@ Riverside Preview Game
3/26
TBA
@ Tuscarora Preview Game
3/30
TBA
@ Broad Run Preview Game
4/2
TBA
@ Loudoun Valley Preview Game
4/16
TBA
@ Park View Preview Game
4/20
TBA
Dominion Preview Game
4/23
TBA
Heritage Preview Game
4/27
TBA
Tuscarora Preview Game
4/30
TBA
Broad Run Preview Game
5/4
TBA
Loudoun Valley Preview Game
5/11
TBA
Park View Preview Game
5/14
TBA
@ Dominion Preview Game
5/18
TBA
@ Heritage Preview Game
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:52
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
DON"T PLAY!
IT'S THAT SIMPLE!
IT'S THAT SIMPLE!
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:38
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Westfield HS Girls soccer schedule: 14 games
SCHEDULE
Date Opponent Result
3/5
7:15p
West Potomac
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/11
7:15p
@ South Lakes
South Lakes High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/20
7:15p
@ Falls Church
Falls Church HS, Stadium
Preview Game
3/24
5:30p
West Springfield
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/26
7:15p
Lake Braddock
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/27
7:15p
Falls Church
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/30
5:30p
Yorktown
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/14
7:15p
@ Centreville
Centreville High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/16
7:15p
@ Madison
James Madison High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/20
7:15p
Oakton
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/24
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/30
7:15p
Centreville
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/5
7:15p
Madison
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/12
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly Hig
Date Opponent
Last year they played in 19 games
https://www.westfieldathletics.org/main/teamschedule/id/4028/seasonid/4419044
18-23 games depending on your schools division. Facts.
March 5th to May 29. 3 Months. Facts.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:31
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Westfield HS Girls soccer schedule: 14 games
SCHEDULE
Date Opponent Result
3/5
7:15p
West Potomac
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/11
7:15p
@ South Lakes
South Lakes High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/20
7:15p
@ Falls Church
Falls Church HS, Stadium
Preview Game
3/24
5:30p
West Springfield
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/26
7:15p
Lake Braddock
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/27
7:15p
Falls Church
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/30
5:30p
Yorktown
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/14
7:15p
@ Centreville
Centreville High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/16
7:15p
@ Madison
James Madison High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/20
7:15p
Oakton
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/24
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/30
7:15p
Centreville
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/5
7:15p
Madison
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/12
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly Hig
Date Opponent
(SEE BOLDED)
4 games in 6 days is great for the kids.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:27
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Westfield HS Girls soccer schedule: 14 games
SCHEDULE
Date Opponent Result
3/5
7:15p
West Potomac
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/11
7:15p
@ South Lakes
South Lakes High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/20
7:15p
@ Falls Church
Falls Church HS, Stadium
Preview Game
3/24
5:30p
West Springfield
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/26
7:15p
Lake Braddock
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/27
7:15p
Falls Church
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
3/30
5:30p
Yorktown
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/14
7:15p
@ Centreville
Centreville High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/16
7:15p
@ Madison
James Madison High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/20
7:15p
Oakton
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/24
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly High School, Stadium
Preview Game
4/30
7:15p
Centreville
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/5
7:15p
Madison
Westfield High School, Stadium
Preview Game
5/12
7:15p
@ Chantilly
Chantilly Hig
Date Opponent
I said look at last years schedules as they are obviously complete. Spring season schedules for the upcoming season are not complete.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:22
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:99 percent of ECNL players are playing HS. No, the players that are not playing HS do not resent their teammates because most are not raging morons like the adults on this forum. If they feel so strong about it they can go play DA and and it won’t be an issue.
I don't know who may have said resentment. I may have missed that post. I didn't. I said I know several ECNL players who don't play high school because they don't like it. They don't care if anyone else does. I asked a couple who even did it their senior years before college and they said they were preparing for their college teams and didn't want high school soccer to give them any bad habits going into their freshman years at college.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:20
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s us know when you’re done bouncing back and forth between this thread and the pipeline thread. We would like for you to read vs posting so you can educate yourself. You seem to be spiraling.
HS soccer is not 3 to 4 months. It’s 2 or 2.5 months.
HS soccer regular season is not 20 games. It’s 12-14 games
ECNL, on average, is cheaper
You seem desperate.
Why?
No, it is 3 to 4 months. 3 months with tryouts and preseason. 4 months with added post season play depending on far a team advances. These are all things that are on a calendar and can be verified.
Schedules are still up from last spring, search for a NoVA school and count them up. 20 games minimum. March to May.
You do know that MANY GDA players get waivers to play HS soccer, right? Top scorer and YNT player from NEFC plays HS soccer. Not sure about Atlantic division, but the NE has multiple players on most teams on private school waivers every fall.
In the northeast, yes many do. That has long been a private school dominant region. Plenty of other states, no, and on all 3 Virginia DA clubs, I don't know of a single waiver player. On the boys' side across multiple DA clubs, I don't know of a single player.
On Sky Blue FC, long-standing YNT player and top scorer does not get a waiver.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:17
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Facts: I checked 3 high schools, all with 18-20 games, before any state championships. All with 2-3 games per week. Pre-season conditioning has already started at the beginning of January, and speaking for our local school, if you want to make the team, you participate. Coach says it every year and he means it.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:15
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:99 percent of ECNL players are playing HS. No, the players that are not playing HS do not resent their teammates because most are not raging morons like the adults on this forum. If they feel so strong about it they can go play DA and and it won’t be an issue.
Thank you. Not sure what's up that other person's ass. I don't even have a daughter or a HS aged son. In reading the thread, I was thinking that it could be possible for some tension between the non-HS players and the HS players. It's nice that it seems like, for the most part, there is no tension.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:11
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL U13 and U14 play the entire year. Beginning U15, ECNL takes the HS season off but still does showcases and tournaments during HS season.
For HS age girls, I don't think any of the local ECNL clubs "take HS season off" entirely. I wish folks who have no idea would stop promoting this misconception.
Each club is different, but most continue the normal or slightly reduced practice schedule, and actively manage fatigue on those players that are playing HS. As mentioned above, there are also tournaments, scrimmages, and various other events going on.
Yes, ECNL parent here, and I agree with the above. My ECNL HS player goes to private school so doesn't play HS soccer in the spring. In the spring, the players who are doing HS soccer are on a modified practice schedule to prevent overuse/injury. The kids not playing HS soccer (or spring sports) train together on a regular (3x per week) schedule - they combine players across the HS age groups to ensure critical mass. The teams still play in two spring showcases and have scrimmages and a few ECNL games. And yes, U13 and U14 play through the school year. Kids who are 8th graders but on a U15 team due to birthdate can play down with the U14s for the spring (trapped players).
In general is their any resentment (if that's the right word) towards the kids that play HS and don't train with the club team as much?
If you have every seen a high school game in VA you would know the answer. The level of play is very low for girls soccer. The play is slow and the skill set shown is very very low. So, no, the ECNL teams do not resent the players that go play HS as they are not major contributors to the ECNL team in the first place.
OK, so do the players resent the HS players because, instead of coming and training with the other ECNL girls, they are missing ECNL practices and training with the HS team and, thus, not improving as much or working as hard as the "dedicated" ECNL players.
Lol. You have lost all credibility. Go educate yourself and stay off the boards.
No. What the poster above was saying is there is no resentment when an ECNL player goes off to play HS. Those ECNL players are the benchwarmers of the ECNL club and can only find playing time and success at a HS level. It really ends up being private training at the ECNL practices for the "elite" members of ECNL.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:10
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s us know when you’re done bouncing back and forth between this thread and the pipeline thread. We would like for you to read vs posting so you can educate yourself. You seem to be spiraling.
HS soccer is not 3 to 4 months. It’s 2 or 2.5 months.
HS soccer regular season is not 20 games. It’s 12-14 games
ECNL, on average, is cheaper
You seem desperate.
Why?
No, it is 3 to 4 months. 3 months with tryouts and preseason. 4 months with added post season play depending on far a team advances. These are all things that are on a calendar and can be verified.
Schedules are still up from last spring, search for a NoVA school and count them up. 20 games minimum. March to May.
You do know that MANY GDA players get waivers to play HS soccer, right? Top scorer and YNT player from NEFC plays HS soccer. Not sure about Atlantic division, but the NE has multiple players on most teams on private school waivers every fall.
Anonymous
01/29/2020 16:09
Subject: Question for ECNL parent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL U13 and U14 play the entire year. Beginning U15, ECNL takes the HS season off but still does showcases and tournaments during HS season.
For HS age girls, I don't think any of the local ECNL clubs "take HS season off" entirely. I wish folks who have no idea would stop promoting this misconception.
Each club is different, but most continue the normal or slightly reduced practice schedule, and actively manage fatigue on those players that are playing HS. As mentioned above, there are also tournaments, scrimmages, and various other events going on.
Yes, ECNL parent here, and I agree with the above. My ECNL HS player goes to private school so doesn't play HS soccer in the spring. In the spring, the players who are doing HS soccer are on a modified practice schedule to prevent overuse/injury. The kids not playing HS soccer (or spring sports) train together on a regular (3x per week) schedule - they combine players across the HS age groups to ensure critical mass. The teams still play in two spring showcases and have scrimmages and a few ECNL games. And yes, U13 and U14 play through the school year. Kids who are 8th graders but on a U15 team due to birthdate can play down with the U14s for the spring (trapped players).
In general is their any resentment (if that's the right word) towards the kids that play HS and don't train with the club team as much?
If you have every seen a high school game in VA you would know the answer. The level of play is very low for girls soccer. The play is slow and the skill set shown is very very low. So, no, the ECNL teams do not resent the players that go play HS as they are not major contributors to the ECNL team in the first place.
No. What the poster above was saying is there is no resentment when an ECNL player goes off to play HS. Those ECNL players are the benchwarmers of the ECNL club and can only find playing time and success at a HS level.
OK, so do the players resent the HS players because, instead of coming and training with the other ECNL girls, they are missing ECNL practices and training with the HS team and, thus, not improving as much or working as hard as the "dedicated" ECNL players.
Lol. You have lost all credibility. Go educate yourself and stay off the boards.