Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are based on tournaments and leagues that report results to these ranking systems. Often, ECNL and DA league and showcase results are not reported, so those teams do not accumulate points. So rankings are bogus after age U13. But at younger ages they can be a decent indicator of how well teams fare in competition and serve to guide tournament organizers in bracketing teams. So maybe redo your rankings but only include ages U13 and under. At older ages look at DA and ECNL websites and manually compile your own rankings then assume they are all better than all non DA and ECNL teams (except for the very top EDP/NL teams where you’d have to look at head to head where possible) and combine with published rankings. Then you’ll have a truer picture. Sounds like you have the free time to do this, so looking forward to the results.

This is not GotSoccer!

DA scores are reported. See below FC Virginia
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2343982

Also, ECNL are reported. See below Loudoun
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3255973

Ok great. Better site I agree.

Curious. Why are you linking to U15? Is that the age bracket your kid plays in? Also why FCV and Loudoun links? Do you have grudge against one of these clubs? Why? Anyhow, at first glance there aren’t many common opponents so hard to really tell isn’t it, but in general at this age FCV girls DA is the best team I’ve seen. Bethesda and McLean are close. Pipeline was close but hard to tell now that MD HS has started and non-DA teams will lose some cohesion. Loudoun is ahead of VDA and BRYC in standings and hard to tell with Metro United, as again no consistently common opponents. That’s the shame of all this league dispersion. Hard to tell who’s the best, but maybe that doesn’t really matter. It is more about having fun, playing good competition and development.

Please lets not go down another FCV, McLean, whoever is best trail. I don't care what age group.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are based on tournaments and leagues that report results to these ranking systems. Often, ECNL and DA league and showcase results are not reported, so those teams do not accumulate points. So rankings are bogus after age U13. But at younger ages they can be a decent indicator of how well teams fare in competition and serve to guide tournament organizers in bracketing teams. So maybe redo your rankings but only include ages U13 and under. At older ages look at DA and ECNL websites and manually compile your own rankings then assume they are all better than all non DA and ECNL teams (except for the very top EDP/NL teams where you’d have to look at head to head where possible) and combine with published rankings. Then you’ll have a truer picture. Sounds like you have the free time to do this, so looking forward to the results.

This is not GotSoccer!

DA scores are reported. See below FC Virginia
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2343982

Also, ECNL are reported. See below Loudoun
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3255973

Ok great. Better site I agree.

Curious. Why are you linking to U15? Is that the age bracket your kid plays in? Also why FCV and Loudoun links? Do you have grudge against one of these clubs? Why? Anyhow, at first glance there aren’t many common opponents so hard to really tell isn’t it, but in general at this age FCV girls DA is the best team I’ve seen. Bethesda and McLean are close. Pipeline was close but hard to tell now that MD HS has started and non-DA teams will lose some cohesion. Loudoun is ahead of VDA and BRYC in standings and hard to tell with Metro United, as again no consistently common opponents. That’s the shame of all this league dispersion. Hard to tell who’s the best, but maybe that doesn’t really matter. It is more about having fun, playing good competition and development.

Anonymous wrote:Not arguing with the math, but the fundamental assumption is that each game is equal - no strength of schedule measure. Also, as mentioned earlier, the system doesn’t effectively separate multiple teams in a given age group for a given club. One significant flaw in this system is the treatment of games that are decided by kicks from the mark. Those results are posted differently for different leagues. Some leagues will report a 0-0 tie as just that with PKs in (). Some leagues will add the PK results to the final score and post that result. E.g. a 0-0 tie reported as a 4-1 result (all PKs). This factor alone really shifts the numbers significantly.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are based on tournaments and leagues that report results to these ranking systems. Often, ECNL and DA league and showcase results are not reported, so those teams do not accumulate points. So rankings are bogus after age U13. But at younger ages they can be a decent indicator of how well teams fare in competition and serve to guide tournament organizers in bracketing teams. So maybe redo your rankings but only include ages U13 and under. At older ages look at DA and ECNL websites and manually compile your own rankings then assume they are all better than all non DA and ECNL teams (except for the very top EDP/NL teams where you’d have to look at head to head where possible) and combine with published rankings. Then you’ll have a truer picture. Sounds like you have the free time to do this, so looking forward to the results.

This is not GotSoccer!

DA scores are reported. See below FC Virginia
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2343982

Also, ECNL are reported. See below Loudoun
https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=3255973

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well look at YS ranking of BSC 08’s. The ranking is based on two tournaments(one of tournaments listed BSC top team did not play in).
They changed the name of BSC top team from BSC 08 blue to BSC sc fury. The former former white team became BSC blue?None of the pre-ecnl league games results are listed.

You really can not take these ranking at face value.

No. BSC 2008G White Team kept the White Team name. At least two players from the BSC Fury came from MRM.

Anonymous wrote:Not arguing with the math, but the fundamental assumption is that each game is equal - no strength of schedule measure. Also, as mentioned earlier, the system doesn’t effectively separate multiple teams in a given age group for a given club. One significant flaw in this system is the treatment of games that are decided by kicks from the mark. Those results are posted differently for different leagues. Some leagues will report a 0-0 tie as just that with PKs in (). Some leagues will add the PK results to the final score and post that result. E.g. a 0-0 tie reported as a 4-1 result (all PKs). This factor alone really shifts the numbers significantly.

Anonymous wrote:Well look at YS ranking of BSC 08’s. The ranking is based on two tournaments(one of tournaments listed BSC top team did not play in).
They changed the name of BSC top team from BSC 08 blue to BSC sc fury. The former former white team became BSC blue?None of the pre-ecnl league games results are listed.

You really can not take these ranking at face value.

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are based on tournaments and leagues that report results to these ranking systems. Often, ECNL and DA league and showcase results are not reported, so those teams do not accumulate points. So rankings are bogus after age U13. But at younger ages they can be a decent indicator of how well teams fare in competition and serve to guide tournament organizers in bracketing teams. So maybe redo your rankings but only include ages U13 and under. At older ages look at DA and ECNL websites and manually compile your own rankings then assume they are all better than all non DA and ECNL teams (except for the very top EDP/NL teams where you’d have to look at head to head where possible) and combine with published rankings. Then you’ll have a truer picture. Sounds like you have the free time to do this, so looking forward to the results.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
For U11 this list is accurate, although GFRC should be added at #3.

Great Falls is part of Metro United. I don't think you want to see that average. Same goes for SAC/Baltimore Armour. Give Metro a couple years and the story may be different, Baltimore Armour not so much if Pipeline goes ECNL.