Anonymous
Post 01/28/2020 07:32     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:You all are psycho if you think using a hand free system to talk on the phone should be illegal. Honestly insane.


No, we're people who want to prevent crashes, serious injuries, and deaths from distracted driving.

People used to defend drinking and driving the same way.


Will you outlaw speaking to the passenger or your kids in the backseat as well? How is that any less distracting?


Both are distracting. However:

1. There is evidence that talking on the cell phone is more distracting. See here, for example: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0018720817748145
2. The fewer the distractions, the better.
3. It is not realistic to make it illegal to speak to people in the car, but it is realistic to make it illegal to use your cell phone in the car.

Seriously, just put the phone away, please.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2020 07:24     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all are psycho if you think using a hand free system to talk on the phone should be illegal. Honestly insane.


No, we're people who want to prevent crashes, serious injuries, and deaths from distracted driving.

People used to defend drinking and driving the same way.


Will you outlaw speaking to the passenger or your kids in the backseat as well? How is that any less distracting?
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2020 07:24     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:You all are psycho if you think using a hand free system to talk on the phone should be illegal. Honestly insane.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16884056

It's equivalent to, or worse than, driving drunk.

Anonymous
Post 01/28/2020 07:14     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all are psycho if you think using a hand free system to talk on the phone should be illegal. Honestly insane.


No, we're people who want to prevent crashes, serious injuries, and deaths from distracted driving.

People used to defend drinking and driving the same way.


Really? When was that? What was their defense?


Here's an article from the LA Times from 1985: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-01-26-mn-13688-story.html
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2020 02:47     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all are psycho if you think using a hand free system to talk on the phone should be illegal. Honestly insane.


No, we're people who want to prevent crashes, serious injuries, and deaths from distracted driving.

People used to defend drinking and driving the same way.


Really? When was that? What was their defense?
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 23:59     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Radios are going to have to go at some point.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 23:05     Subject: Re:Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:All it does is bam physically holding the phone while driving, which is already banned in work zones. You can still make phone calls using hands-free devices.


Making phone calls using hand-free devices should be banned too.


This. Absolutely this.

You need to be focused on driving. Not having a conversation. Personally, I don't think cars should even be allowed to have radios, because music is so distracting. But that's a fight for later. Let's get phone use banned first.


OMG. No radio? You do want an increase in road rage.....from being bored to death.


If your attention span is so short that you can't drive without some kind of external distraction, then may I suggest you shouldn't be driving at all?


Spoken like a woman who’s husband does all the driving on long trips.


Spoken like a misogynist who insults women.


+1

Keep the radios, ban the misogynistic fck wads.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 22:25     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:You all are psycho if you think using a hand free system to talk on the phone should be illegal. Honestly insane.


No, we're people who want to prevent crashes, serious injuries, and deaths from distracted driving.

People used to defend drinking and driving the same way.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 21:48     Subject: Re:Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All it does is bam physically holding the phone while driving, which is already banned in work zones. You can still make phone calls using hands-free devices.


Making phone calls using hand-free devices should be banned too.


This. Absolutely this.

You need to be focused on driving. Not having a conversation. Personally, I don't think cars should even be allowed to have radios, because music is so distracting. But that's a fight for later. Let's get phone use banned first.


OMG. No radio? You do want an increase in road rage.....from being bored to death.


If your attention span is so short that you can't drive without some kind of external distraction, then may I suggest you shouldn't be driving at all?


Spoken like a woman who’s husband does all the driving on long trips.


Spoken like a misogynist who insults women.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 21:45     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:We should ban cars. Every one should be forced to use public transportation or bikes.


Whoa.... easy there.

Small steps. Let's focus on no phones first, m'k? Then no car radios in a couple more years. Then no cars in another decade.

Little bites. Little bites.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 21:40     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

We should ban cars. Every one should be forced to use public transportation or bikes.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 21:23     Subject: Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

We need sanctuary cities! I know mah rahts!
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 21:18     Subject: Re:Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All it does is bam physically holding the phone while driving, which is already banned in work zones. You can still make phone calls using hands-free devices.


Making phone calls using hand-free devices should be banned too.


This. Absolutely this.

You need to be focused on driving. Not having a conversation. Personally, I don't think cars should even be allowed to have radios, because music is so distracting. But that's a fight for later. Let's get phone use banned first.


OMG. No radio? You do want an increase in road rage.....from being bored to death.


If your attention span is so short that you can't drive without some kind of external distraction, then may I suggest you shouldn't be driving at all?


Spoken like a woman who’s husband does all the driving on long trips.
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 21:09     Subject: Re:Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All it does is bam physically holding the phone while driving, which is already banned in work zones. You can still make phone calls using hands-free devices.


Making phone calls using hand-free devices should be banned too.


This. Absolutely this.

You need to be focused on driving. Not having a conversation. Personally, I don't think cars should even be allowed to have radios, because music is so distracting. But that's a fight for later. Let's get phone use banned first.


OMG. No radio? You do want an increase in road rage.....from being bored to death.


If your attention span is so short that you can't drive without some kind of external distraction, then may I suggest you shouldn't be driving at all?
Anonymous
Post 01/27/2020 21:07     Subject: Re:Virginia will try to ban texting and driving and more

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All it does is bam physically holding the phone while driving, which is already banned in work zones. You can still make phone calls using hands-free devices.


Making phone calls using hand-free devices should be banned too.


That's ridiculous. So what you're saying is people need to be completely unable to communicate with the outside world when they're driving. What if it's an emergency?

It's 2020. The reality is people communicate on the phone while driving. Using a hands-free device is perfectly fine. In fact, most new cars have built-in systems to facilitate it.

Are you saying it will be illegal for me to use the voice command system that Ford built into my car to make phone calls?


No. What I'm saying is, when you're operating a motor vehicle, you should be required to stay off your phone.

Using a hand-free device is not perfectly fine. It's distracted driving.

And it should be illegal for Ford (or any other car manufacturer) to build voice command systems into their vehicles to make phone calls.


Almost every new car has the ability to use voice command to sync with your phone and make calls. Both of ours do...Nissan and Lexus.



The means of making the call is irrelevant. It's that the call is being made at all. That's the source of the distraction, not whether the phone is pressed against your ear or not. A person making a phone call, hands free or not, isn't focused on driving. And that's the issue.

Phone use while driving is the problem. That's what needs to be banned.