Anonymous
01/26/2020 12:48
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seiously, got a kid with 3.8 UW in a challenging schedule, 33 ACT, and good academic ECs that was rejected from ivy ED. Accepted EA to a private. Aiming higher but RD round is brutal so little nervous. Full pay…do they really care? Not legacy, URM, or athlete. Diverse in terms of middle eastern but had to check white.
While Naviance is your best source since the 3.8 is UW, SCHEV indicates that UVA might be a bit of a stretch. The entering had a 75% median percentile WGPA of 4.49, median was 4.35 and bottom 25% was 4.21. Your kid's ACT is middle of the pack. Top 75 percentile median was a 34; median a 33; and bottom 25% a 30. Next year will be higher stats. Also RD is much more difficult. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
UVA warns applicants again and again to take the SCHEV numbers with a grain of salt. Not all schools, especially privates, weigh grades. A kid with a 3.8 UW with a "challenging schedule" would have well over a 4.0 weighted. And a 33 ACT is a very competitive score for an in state applicanr. I do not consider the OP's kid to be a stretch admit. The kid has a good chance of admission.
33 ACT is low for all of the schools OP posted. Might have a chance at UVA, but I would still call it a stretch with a 33 ACT, even in state. 3.8 GPA isn't bad, but hey, my 3.9 student with a 36 ACT did not get in the UVA engineering school...but he is from MD and applied from a private school with many VA residents. Odds were against him. He's fine though...got into a reach which was his first choice.
Bottom line, I hope the OPs kid had some safeties on his list. Assuming OP only listed reach schools.
OP already said kid is in somewhere with large merit aid. No need for more safeties if they like that one.
Yep thanks. OP here. Got hefty tuition merit aid from a private. Naviance looks good for Tufts, UVA, Georgetown. No shot at Penn, Yale, or Brown. Hard but not impossible at Cornell. Wake looks good. Hoping for merit there. Likely, if she gets UVA will take UVA. EA but agree very hard this year. Though Naviance looks decent with stats. Northwestern and Vandy looks tough. Hopkins actually doesn’t look horrible and non pre med so they may like that. Hoping full pay makes a difference at some.
My kid last year with 3.7uw, 11 APs, excellent ECs was rejected at Tufts, deferred then rejected at Gtown and didn’t even apply to UVA because grades (OOS) would not hit the mark. Naviance was not helpful in this case.
Were you full pay? Tufts values that.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 12:45
Subject: Re:Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:If you weighed his GPA like kids from MCPS do, what would it be?
Not sure. School doesn’t weight. Took near max APs and honors classes. Counselor said curriculum very strong.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 12:42
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seiously, got a kid with 3.8 UW in a challenging schedule, 33 ACT, and good academic ECs that was rejected from ivy ED. Accepted EA to a private. Aiming higher but RD round is brutal so little nervous. Full pay…do they really care? Not legacy, URM, or athlete. Diverse in terms of middle eastern but had to check white.
Is the 33 super scored? He could try for Emory, still a Reach though.
Where did he get in EA?
No not super scored. He applied to Emory. Naviance looks good. Don’t want to specify but EA to a top 40 US news.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 12:34
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seiously, got a kid with 3.8 UW in a challenging schedule, 33 ACT, and good academic ECs that was rejected from ivy ED. Accepted EA to a private. Aiming higher but RD round is brutal so little nervous. Full pay…do they really care? Not legacy, URM, or athlete. Diverse in terms of middle eastern but had to check white.
While Naviance is your best source since the 3.8 is UW, SCHEV indicates that UVA might be a bit of a stretch. The entering had a 75% median percentile WGPA of 4.49, median was 4.35 and bottom 25% was 4.21. Your kid's ACT is middle of the pack. Top 75 percentile median was a 34; median a 33; and bottom 25% a 30. Next year will be higher stats. Also RD is much more difficult. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
UVA warns applicants again and again to take the SCHEV numbers with a grain of salt. Not all schools, especially privates, weigh grades. A kid with a 3.8 UW with a "challenging schedule" would have well over a 4.0 weighted. And a 33 ACT is a very competitive score for an in state applicanr. I do not consider the OP's kid to be a stretch admit. The kid has a good chance of admission.
33 ACT is low for all of the schools OP posted. Might have a chance at UVA, but I would still call it a stretch with a 33 ACT, even in state. 3.8 GPA isn't bad, but hey, my 3.9 student with a 36 ACT did not get in the UVA engineering school...but he is from MD and applied from a private school with many VA residents. Odds were against him. He's fine though...got into a reach which was his first choice.
Bottom line, I hope the OPs kid had some safeties on his list. Assuming OP only listed reach schools.
OP already said kid is in somewhere with large merit aid. No need for more safeties if they like that one.
Yep thanks. OP here. Got hefty tuition merit aid from a private. Naviance looks good for Tufts, UVA, Georgetown. No shot at Penn, Yale, or Brown. Hard but not impossible at Cornell. Wake looks good. Hoping for merit there. Likely, if she gets UVA will take UVA. EA but agree very hard this year. Though Naviance looks decent with stats. Northwestern and Vandy looks tough. Hopkins actually doesn’t look horrible and non pre med so they may like that. Hoping full pay makes a difference at some.
My kid last year with 3.7uw, 11 APs, excellent ECs was rejected at Tufts, deferred then rejected at Gtown and didn’t even apply to UVA because grades (OOS) would not hit the mark. Naviance was not helpful in this case.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 12:04
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not OP but a 3.8 UW in a demanding schedule as OP says is an A average. 33 might be a tad low but she also said full pay.
3.8 is an A- average.
No, an A- is typically 3.66 or 3.7
Anonymous
01/26/2020 11:57
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seiously, got a kid with 3.8 UW in a challenging schedule, 33 ACT, and good academic ECs that was rejected from ivy ED. Accepted EA to a private. Aiming higher but RD round is brutal so little nervous. Full pay…do they really care? Not legacy, URM, or athlete. Diverse in terms of middle eastern but had to check white.
Your kid isn't an A student with a 3.8 and a 33 is not gonna cut it for the Ivy League. Your kid is average at a top private at best.
You serious. The kid has a 3.8 in a demanding courseload. Numerous APs.
A 33 is a dime a dozen at a top private and isn't getting your kid into an Ivy. Not gonna happen. You wasted your money if that's why you sent your kid there.
Great so where will he end up? Be constructive. Hoping for UVA in state, Tufts, Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cornell, or Northwestern.
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Why? Are you hoping just to brag that your kid is in a so-called "prestigious" school? This post comes across as incredibly shallow, and I suspect I would find it very irritating and stressful to have you as a parent.
Have you met the poster at 01/26/2020 10:46? I think you two would get along great.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 11:42
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seiously, got a kid with 3.8 UW in a challenging schedule, 33 ACT, and good academic ECs that was rejected from ivy ED. Accepted EA to a private. Aiming higher but RD round is brutal so little nervous. Full pay…do they really care? Not legacy, URM, or athlete. Diverse in terms of middle eastern but had to check white.
Your kid isn't an A student with a 3.8 and a 33 is not gonna cut it for the Ivy League. Your kid is average at a top private at best.
You serious. The kid has a 3.8 in a demanding courseload. Numerous APs.
A 33 is a dime a dozen at a top private and isn't getting your kid into an Ivy. Not gonna happen. You wasted your money if that's why you sent your kid there.
Great so where will he end up? Be constructive. Hoping for UVA in state, Tufts, Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cornell, or Northwestern.
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Why? Are you hoping just to brag that your kid is in a so-called "prestigious" school? This post comes across as incredibly shallow, and I suspect I would find it very irritating and stressful to have you as a parent.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 11:29
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
The problem is, kids like the PP's are "a dime a dozen" in terms of applications to the T20-30 schools. Our kid is a 3.78 UW at a "big 3" where they don't really do weighted GPA, but the student has taken the most rigorous sciences and math. Got into the public EA options and is awaiting word on RD from some of the same schools mentioned in this thread.
There are students both "above" and "below" ours who both did and didn't get into their ED choices. Some chose EDs that might be considered "less prestigious" than HYPS but perhaps more realistic in terms of ED entry; others chose to go all in on HYPS some gaining admission, some getting deferred.
There are students both "above" and "below" ours who both did and didn't get into their ED choices. Some chose EDs that might be considered "less prestigious" than HYPS but perhaps more realistic in terms of ED entry; others chose to go all in on HYPS some gaining admission, some getting deferred.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 11:12
Subject: Re:Where do A students from top local privates go?
If you weighed his GPA like kids from MCPS do, what would it be?
Anonymous
01/26/2020 11:11
Subject: Re:Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:"Glad the UK doesn't use them. If you get 5 on all the APS and ace the standardized test, why should anyone care if your gym teacher gave you a B in 10th grade or if you bombed one semester of history in 9th grade? If you know it all, it really doesn't matter that you made mistakes while learning the material along the way.
The statement “GPAs are pointless” is incredibly untrue and dangerous to believe.
Every admission officer on the planet will tell you your 4-year performance, in the context of your course rigor and HS quality is the primary academic principle on which you are judged."
This exchange is interesting.
Both sides are completely correct, in some cases. Choosing between the two is where ad coms earn their pay.
Lots of things are true in some cases. As is "put all your money on one spin of black 17". Doesn't make it any less damaging.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 11:05
Subject: Re:Where do A students from top local privates go?
"Glad the UK doesn't use them. If you get 5 on all the APS and ace the standardized test, why should anyone care if your gym teacher gave you a B in 10th grade or if you bombed one semester of history in 9th grade? If you know it all, it really doesn't matter that you made mistakes while learning the material along the way.
The statement “GPAs are pointless” is incredibly untrue and dangerous to believe.
Every admission officer on the planet will tell you your 4-year performance, in the context of your course rigor and HS quality is the primary academic principle on which you are judged."
This exchange is interesting.
Both sides are completely correct, in some cases. Choosing between the two is where ad coms earn their pay.
The statement “GPAs are pointless” is incredibly untrue and dangerous to believe.
Every admission officer on the planet will tell you your 4-year performance, in the context of your course rigor and HS quality is the primary academic principle on which you are judged."
This exchange is interesting.
Both sides are completely correct, in some cases. Choosing between the two is where ad coms earn their pay.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 10:58
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seiously, got a kid with 3.8 UW in a challenging schedule, 33 ACT, and good academic ECs that was rejected from ivy ED. Accepted EA to a private. Aiming higher but RD round is brutal so little nervous. Full pay…do they really care? Not legacy, URM, or athlete. Diverse in terms of middle eastern but had to check white.
While Naviance is your best source since the 3.8 is UW, SCHEV indicates that UVA might be a bit of a stretch. The entering had a 75% median percentile WGPA of 4.49, median was 4.35 and bottom 25% was 4.21. Your kid's ACT is middle of the pack. Top 75 percentile median was a 34; median a 33; and bottom 25% a 30. Next year will be higher stats. Also RD is much more difficult. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
With those numbers, it seems like UVA is more of a match.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 10:53
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Seiously, got a kid with 3.8 UW in a challenging schedule, 33 ACT, and good academic ECs that was rejected from ivy ED. Accepted EA to a private. Aiming higher but RD round is brutal so little nervous. Full pay…do they really care? Not legacy, URM, or athlete. Diverse in terms of middle eastern but had to check white.
Is the 33 super scored? He could try for Emory, still a Reach though.
Where did he get in EA?
Anonymous
01/26/2020 10:51
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Anonymous wrote:Your list includes schools with incredibly different cultures. Brown and Vandy? Yale and wake forest? I guess you’re in the prestige camp and not the best fit camp!
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you “Mr. I Like Calling People Derogatory Things For No Helpful Purpose”.
I can easily identify him because as I just demonstrated, I am one also. Except I feel I have a slightly helpful purpose.
Anonymous
01/26/2020 10:46
Subject: Where do A students from top local privates go?
Your list includes schools with incredibly different cultures. Brown and Vandy? Yale and wake forest? I guess you’re in the prestige camp and not the best fit camp!