Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
But, I am still interested in what problem with Whitman this remedies.
Not really about remediating Whitman’s problems. Whitman has more ability to grow than BCC, so it helps BCC by taking out an elemtary school. And it saves on transportation costs.
If they did move Westbrook to Whitman, it would still make sense for Westbrook to articulate to Westland first, since it's right there. And there wouldn't be room at Pyle anyway, even after the addition opens.
I am not sure what would be accomplished by moving Westbreeok into Whitman, anyway - making space at BCC? They are about to expand Westbrook to reshuffle kids from Somerset over there. There is no room to expand Somerset. And they are explanding both Pyle and Whitman, but I don't think they have enough space to add a whole 'nother elementary school after that expansion.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
But, I am still interested in what problem with Whitman this remedies.
Not really about remediating Whitman’s problems. Whitman has more ability to grow than BCC, so it helps BCC by taking out an elemtary school. And it saves on transportation costs.
If they did move Westbrook to Whitman, it would still make sense for Westbrook to articulate to Westland first, since it's right there. And there wouldn't be room at Pyle anyway, even after the addition opens.
Anonymous wrote:In whole honesty some of the current boundaries are interesting. I am sure there must be some logic
to them but it is kind puzzling why some schools is so marginally located while others are more centrally located.
It seems logical that boundary change could minimize or at least balance bussing and reduce footprint right?
Just random examples
Wootton: (Wootton HS is that red dot) and that little floating triangular is also part of the boundary???
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Yeah talk about some crazy gerrymandering.
It's amazing to me that you have household and Silver Spring that are within walking distance of Blair high school and are districted omewhere else.
I am in boundary for New Hampshire estates and there are no less than three elementary schools that are physically closer to our house then New Hampshire estates
Blair: (Blair HS is that purple icon) also rather not centrally located.
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Whitman - definitely more centrally located then the two above,
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Rockville High
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
But, I am still interested in what problem with Whitman this remedies.
Not really about remediating Whitman’s problems. Whitman has more ability to grow than BCC, so it helps BCC by taking out an elemtary school. And it saves on transportation costs.
If they did move Westbrook to Whitman, it would still make sense for Westbrook to articulate to Westland first, since it's right there. And there wouldn't be room at Pyle anyway, even after the addition opens.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somebody recently made this version which overlays FARMS percentages in clusters. It is quite telling, and you can see where there can be some movement. It is pretty obvious which schools will be tough to bus due to long commutes to higher FARMS rate schools. I just don't see how they are going to create any diversity with those schools....they look pretty protected to me. https://www.arcgis.com/apps/InteractiveLegend/index.html?appid=bf5860e2422b4816970eb80960f8019c&fbclid=IwAR0tlyWCuePkw9oJ3Wemm-jWQ7XUFLZ07awWNytnq2WhjUGBJ5oPH8CUcm4
Fascinating map, thanks for sharing.
Is it? Did anyone dispute that the poor minorities lived on the east side of town? Did anyone dispute that when there are concentrations of poor people that people with money avoid that area? When the rich flood to an area prices go up and poor people can’t move there so the select the cheap side of town. Those areas get more poverty which causes flight and here we are
DP.. yes, it is a fascinating map. Visuals are always better than words. It also shows that there are a couple of clusters where the FARMs rate is more equitable- those that are about 20 to 30%.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
But, I am still interested in what problem with Whitman this remedies.
Not really about remediating Whitman’s problems. Whitman has more ability to grow than BCC, so it helps BCC by taking out an elemtary school. And it saves on transportation costs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In whole honesty some of the current boundaries are interesting. I am sure there must be some logic
to them but it is kind puzzling why some schools is so marginally located while others are more centrally located.
It seems logical that boundary change could minimize or at least balance bussing and reduce footprint right?
Just random examples
Wootton: (Wootton HS is that red dot) and that little floating triangular is also part of the boundary???
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Blair: (Blair HS is that purple icon) also rather not centrally located.
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Whitman - definitely more centrally located then the two above,
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Rockville High
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The fix for Whitman is pretty obvious - Carderock (outside the beltway) should go to Churchill in Potomac. Westbrook (currently at BCC) could fill in for Carderock at Whitman. This would help alleviate space concerns at Whitman and BCC, and cut down on busing to both schools. In addition, BCC would become marginally more diverse, with no real change to Churchill or Whitman.
Wootton is really odd. A portion of the border near the river is a historically African American community (Tobytown) that is much closer to Churchill. If Tobytown were redistricted to Churchill, that would seem to be a win-win all around from an environmental and equity standpoint. These small boundary tweaks are the things we should be thinking about. I don't think the school board has any interest in busing people from Bethesda to Gaithersburg like some on this board fear.
I'm skeptical of the BOE's intentions, but I agree that, if you need to make changes, the kind you are proposing here make sense.
What "problem" are you fixing at Whitman?
Also, this "solution" would put BCC on the far edge of (and actually outside of) its own service area - exactly the type of thing that is supposedly a problem with other schools.
Hard pass.
You don't know the BCC service area. BCC is actually one of the most sensibly drawn school boundary right now. But it can't accommodate many more students and there is no additional space for additions. BCC is exactly between 4 of the elementary schools (Bethesda, Chevy Chase, North Chevy Chase and Somerset), with Westbrook, Rock Creek Forest and Rosemary Hills off to the side). For reasons discussed ad nauseam on this board related to equity, it makes no sense to move the less affluent neighborhoods of RCF or Rosemary Hills away from BCC, which is otherwise an extremely wealth cluster. But Westbrook, which is closer to Whitman than BCC and is also very wealthy, could easily be moved. Carderock is outside the beltway and it could potentially cut down on transportation costs and environmental impact to move it to Churchill.
I am very familiar with BCC's service area. The PP suggested moving Westland from BCC to Whitman. Westland includes Westbrook, Somerset, and Bethesda Elementary. That would create an unbalanced district, with BCC on the far edge of the service area, and actually outside of it (since it is in the Bethesda Elementary service area).
If you meant to suggest moving Westbrook, then yes, that would work as you suggested. (Though I hope it doesn't happen, since we are in the Westbrook area, and much prefer BCC.) But you still haven't identified what problem you are seeking to address re Whitman.
Oops, I see now I misread. Sorry!
But, I am still interested in what problem with Whitman this remedies.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In whole honesty some of the current boundaries are interesting. I am sure there must be some logic
to them but it is kind puzzling why some schools is so marginally located while others are more centrally located.
It seems logical that boundary change could minimize or at least balance bussing and reduce footprint right?
Just random examples
Wootton: (Wootton HS is that red dot) and that little floating triangular is also part of the boundary???
![]()
Blair: (Blair HS is that purple icon) also rather not centrally located.
![]()
Whitman - definitely more centrally located then the two above,
![]()
Rockville High
![]()
The fix for Whitman is pretty obvious - Carderock (outside the beltway) should go to Churchill in Potomac. Westbrook (currently at BCC) could fill in for Carderock at Whitman. This would help alleviate space concerns at Whitman and BCC, and cut down on busing to both schools. In addition, BCC would become marginally more diverse, with no real change to Churchill or Whitman.
Wootton is really odd. A portion of the border near the river is a historically African American community (Tobytown) that is much closer to Churchill. If Tobytown were redistricted to Churchill, that would seem to be a win-win all around from an environmental and equity standpoint. These small boundary tweaks are the things we should be thinking about. I don't think the school board has any interest in busing people from Bethesda to Gaithersburg like some on this board fear.
I'm skeptical of the BOE's intentions, but I agree that, if you need to make changes, the kind you are proposing here make sense.
What "problem" are you fixing at Whitman?
Also, this "solution" would put BCC on the far edge of (and actually outside of) its own service area - exactly the type of thing that is supposedly a problem with other schools.
Hard pass.
You don't know the BCC service area. BCC is actually one of the most sensibly drawn school boundary right now. But it can't accommodate many more students and there is no additional space for additions. BCC is exactly between 4 of the elementary schools (Bethesda, Chevy Chase, North Chevy Chase and Somerset), with Westbrook, Rock Creek Forest and Rosemary Hills off to the side). For reasons discussed ad nauseam on this board related to equity, it makes no sense to move the less affluent neighborhoods of RCF or Rosemary Hills away from BCC, which is otherwise an extremely wealth cluster. But Westbrook, which is closer to Whitman than BCC and is also very wealthy, could easily be moved. Carderock is outside the beltway and it could potentially cut down on transportation costs and environmental impact to move it to Churchill.
I am very familiar with BCC's service area. The PP suggested moving Westland from BCC to Whitman. Westland includes Westbrook, Somerset, and Bethesda Elementary. That would create an unbalanced district, with BCC on the far edge of the service area, and actually outside of it (since it is in the Bethesda Elementary service area).
If you meant to suggest moving Westbrook, then yes, that would work as you suggested. (Though I hope it doesn't happen, since we are in the Westbrook area, and much prefer BCC.) But you still haven't identified what problem you are seeking to address re Whitman.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, this "solution" would put BCC on the far edge of (and actually outside of) its own service area - exactly the type of thing that is supposedly a problem with other schools.
This is just not correct.
Really? If Westland is moved to Whitman, that means Westbrook, Somerset and Bethesda Elementary are moved. BCC is in the Bethesda Elementary service area.
What's not correct?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In whole honesty some of the current boundaries are interesting. I am sure there must be some logic
to them but it is kind puzzling why some schools is so marginally located while others are more centrally located.
It seems logical that boundary change could minimize or at least balance bussing and reduce footprint right?
Just random examples
Wootton: (Wootton HS is that red dot) and that little floating triangular is also part of the boundary???
![]()
Blair: (Blair HS is that purple icon) also rather not centrally located.
![]()
Whitman - definitely more centrally located then the two above,
![]()
Rockville High
![]()
The fix for Whitman is pretty obvious - Carderock (outside the beltway) should go to Churchill in Potomac. Westbrook (currently at BCC) could fill in for Carderock at Whitman. This would help alleviate space concerns at Whitman and BCC, and cut down on busing to both schools. In addition, BCC would become marginally more diverse, with no real change to Churchill or Whitman.
Wootton is really odd. A portion of the border near the river is a historically African American community (Tobytown) that is much closer to Churchill. If Tobytown were redistricted to Churchill, that would seem to be a win-win all around from an environmental and equity standpoint. These small boundary tweaks are the things we should be thinking about. I don't think the school board has any interest in busing people from Bethesda to Gaithersburg like some on this board fear.
I'm skeptical of the BOE's intentions, but I agree that, if you need to make changes, the kind you are proposing here make sense.
What "problem" are you fixing at Whitman?
Also, this "solution" would put BCC on the far edge of (and actually outside of) its own service area - exactly the type of thing that is supposedly a problem with other schools.
Hard pass.
You don't know the BCC service area. BCC is actually one of the most sensibly drawn school boundary right now. But it can't accommodate many more students and there is no additional space for additions. BCC is exactly between 4 of the elementary schools (Bethesda, Chevy Chase, North Chevy Chase and Somerset), with Westbrook, Rock Creek Forest and Rosemary Hills off to the side). For reasons discussed ad nauseam on this board related to equity, it makes no sense to move the less affluent neighborhoods of RCF or Rosemary Hills away from BCC, which is otherwise an extremely wealth cluster. But Westbrook, which is closer to Whitman than BCC and is also very wealthy, could easily be moved. Carderock is outside the beltway and it could potentially cut down on transportation costs and environmental impact to move it to Churchill.
I am very familiar with BCC's service area. The PP suggested moving Westland from BCC to Whitman. Westland includes Westbrook, Somerset, and Bethesda Elementary. That would create an unbalanced district, with BCC on the far edge of the service area, and actually outside of it (since it is in the Bethesda Elementary service area).
If you meant to suggest moving Westbrook, then yes, that would work as you suggested. (Though I hope it doesn't happen, since we are in the Westbrook area, and much prefer BCC.) But you still haven't identified what problem you are seeking to address re Whitman.
Anonymous wrote:Also, this "solution" would put BCC on the far edge of (and actually outside of) its own service area - exactly the type of thing that is supposedly a problem with other schools.
This is just not correct.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In whole honesty some of the current boundaries are interesting. I am sure there must be some logic
to them but it is kind puzzling why some schools is so marginally located while others are more centrally located.
It seems logical that boundary change could minimize or at least balance bussing and reduce footprint right?
Just random examples
Wootton: (Wootton HS is that red dot) and that little floating triangular is also part of the boundary???
![]()
Blair: (Blair HS is that purple icon) also rather not centrally located.
![]()
Whitman - definitely more centrally located then the two above,
![]()
Rockville High
![]()
The fix for Whitman is pretty obvious - Carderock (outside the beltway) should go to Churchill in Potomac. Westbrook (currently at BCC) could fill in for Carderock at Whitman. This would help alleviate space concerns at Whitman and BCC, and cut down on busing to both schools. In addition, BCC would become marginally more diverse, with no real change to Churchill or Whitman.
Wootton is really odd. A portion of the border near the river is a historically African American community (Tobytown) that is much closer to Churchill. If Tobytown were redistricted to Churchill, that would seem to be a win-win all around from an environmental and equity standpoint. These small boundary tweaks are the things we should be thinking about. I don't think the school board has any interest in busing people from Bethesda to Gaithersburg like some on this board fear.
I'm skeptical of the BOE's intentions, but I agree that, if you need to make changes, the kind you are proposing here make sense.
What "problem" are you fixing at Whitman?
Also, this "solution" would put BCC on the far edge of (and actually outside of) its own service area - exactly the type of thing that is supposedly a problem with other schools.
Hard pass.
You don't know the BCC service area. BCC is actually one of the most sensibly drawn school boundary right now. But it can't accommodate many more students and there is no additional space for additions. BCC is exactly between 4 of the elementary schools (Bethesda, Chevy Chase, North Chevy Chase and Somerset), with Westbrook, Rock Creek Forest and Rosemary Hills off to the side). For reasons discussed ad nauseam on this board related to equity, it makes no sense to move the less affluent neighborhoods of RCF or Rosemary Hills away from BCC, which is otherwise an extremely wealth cluster. But Westbrook, which is closer to Whitman than BCC and is also very wealthy, could easily be moved. Carderock is outside the beltway and it could potentially cut down on transportation costs and environmental impact to move it to Churchill.
