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Anonymous wrote:Meh.

Bunch of boring talk here. Arguing for argument's sake.

When are any of you going to ACTUALLY do something with your kid to change the system?

When are you? Or did you already? If so, what?

We are moving overseas next year.

Why? Where are you going?

US soccer has the athletes, our system and coaches are jokes though.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meh.

Bunch of boring talk here. Arguing for argument's sake.

When are any of you going to ACTUALLY do something with your kid to change the system?

When are you? Or did you already? If so, what?

We are moving overseas next year.

Bon voyage!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meh.

Bunch of boring talk here. Arguing for argument's sake.

When are any of you going to ACTUALLY do something with your kid to change the system?

When are you? Or did you already? If so, what?

We are moving overseas next year.

Watching soccerbox with Steven Gerrard. They started making fun of the big kits but also talked about how the premier league had changed in terms of style of play. The league has become more technical and skilled. Watching the highlights, you just see how more technical and skilled all the players are. The US just seems behind in term of development and evolution of the game.

Great series if you have never watched it. My 11 year DD and I caught a few after the games were over on the 26th.

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/khst2s/gary-nevilles-soccerbox--s3-e6-steven-gerrard/

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you’re right. You see a lot of back passes, to set up the direct ball over the top. Players don’t know how, or are discouraged, from building through the thirds. Apologists for the mediocrity in coaching and style are part of the problem.

All the time, but it's so ingrained in American youth soccer. I don't know what it would take to change it.

Fiction.

Delusion.

Anonymous wrote:Meh.

Bunch of boring talk here. Arguing for argument's sake.

When are any of you going to ACTUALLY do something with your kid to change the system?

When are you? Or did you already? If so, what?

Anonymous wrote:Europe has professional academies.

Their players get more training and they get paid to attend.

Yep. Soccer isn't a money sport in the US.

^^^ case in point. Denial is real.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you’re right. You see a lot of back passes, to set up the direct ball over the top. Players don’t know how, or are discouraged, from building through the thirds. Apologists for the mediocrity in coaching and style are part of the problem.

All the time, but it's so ingrained in American youth soccer. I don't know what it would take to change it.

Fiction.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you’re right. You see a lot of back passes, to set up the direct ball over the top. Players don’t know how, or are discouraged, from building through the thirds. Apologists for the mediocrity in coaching and style are part of the problem.

All the time, but it's so ingrained in American youth soccer. I don't know what it would take to change it.

Meh.

Bunch of boring talk here. Arguing for argument's sake.

When are any of you going to ACTUALLY do something with your kid to change the system?

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you’re right. You see a lot of back passes, to set up the direct ball over the top. Players don’t know how, or are discouraged, from building through the thirds. Apologists for the mediocrity in coaching and style are part of the problem.

Fiction.

Yes, you’re right. You see a lot of back passes, to set up the direct ball over the top. Players don’t know how, or are discouraged, from building through the thirds. Apologists for the mediocrity in coaching and style are part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the biggest differences I’ve noticed is that here square or backwards passes are looked at as a dirty thing. A lot of people can’t wrap their heads around the fact that sometimes that’s simply where the space is, where your free man is, or the best way to make an opponent come out of their shell to then penetrate. A lot of backs and keepers who are supposed to be developing become no better than punters.

This is certainly the trope of a couple of posters on this forum, but it isn't fact. There are many local clubs who teach players to play back to the keeper or a defender when it's the best option.

Appreciate your anecdote, as our team plays using those principles. But I’m not naive enough to think that it’s the norm. Some/many clubs/teams is not the majority, and anyone that believes that is turning a blind eye.

I have seen that exact play, appropriate pass midfielder to defender and/or defender to keeper, in almost all older kid games I have watched, from many varied clubs over the years. If you aren't seeing it, I'm not sure what you're focused on.

I've seen passing back a fair amount, as you mentioned, but the play forward is often a big boot from the goalie or backline. Teams know how to pass back tp maintain possession. What they don't know how to do is make that forward movement and break lines while maintaining possession. The main way they break lines is booting the ball forward and then have the forwards try to win possession.

Yup, and it gets worse as they go from youth to college. They'll move it back to the back line and back and forth across the back line until it gets to one with enough space to launch it forward over the top. If you don't pay attention you may think they're trying to play a possession style but it's only possession in their own half until it gets to the launch. In the middle and attacking third it's forward or cross if you're on the end line. You might have to take your mittens off to count the number of colleges in the country which actually try to possess in the opponents half but you could definitely keep your shoes on.