Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Faulty premise. There is no rising anti-semitism.
Ehh. There's a growing nuisance of left-wing antisemitism among the progressive left. See Britain's Jeremy Corbyn and the shell of the Labour Party. Having lived in London it is astonishing the degree to which otherwise intelligent progressive people will trap themselves by failing to distinguish between a political issue, Israel-Palestinian relations, and the greater Jewish faith and identity. As if Jews are not allowed to be anything other than hardcore Israel supporting Zionists who murder Palestinians every day of the week.
For some reason, right-wing antisemitism gets a lot more press and while I don't want to seem to be downplaying it, the left wing antisemitism is more pervasive because it's hidden behind the walls of "progressive causes" and Palestinian rights activists. At least right wing antisemitism is more honest in viewing all Jews = bad whereas left wing antisemitism hides behind the Palestinian / Israel mess as their excuse.
That aside, at least on American campuses, I don't think this will be a particular problem. Every school has its wackos.
Op here. I'm not sure why you think the "left wing" anti-semitism is not an issue here. That's exactly what I shared in my original post. The articles talk about the insidiousness of the left wing anti-semitism and how it's affecting campuses here. I'm looking for some advice from parents of Jewish college students on how to deal with this.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Faulty premise. There is no rising anti-semitism.
I think that's partially right. I think people are more willing to be public in their antisemitism, but it was that was already there. And the recipients are more willing to call them out on it. So the public incidences are on the rise. Antisemitism itself has been around for a pretty long time.
The Anti-Defamation League and the FBI put out reports saying anti-semitic attacks are on the rise. Jews are the most attacked group in the USA on a per capita basis.
Why you people are trying to diminish it is beyond me. I have a feeling you would never do this when it comes to attacks against African Americans. It's ok in this country to minimize the discrimination Jews face. It's disgusting.
Maybe it's just my age but I am more comfortable being Jewish today than I was as a kid. This was still the era where Jews were not welcome in certain neighborhoods in this area (covenants having only recently been lifted), or country clubs, or schools. While there are clearly attacks on Jewish houses of worship, there are also attacks on churches, on schools, on gay bars, on Paris and Las Vegas concerts, on airports, on random people on the street. So I may feel less safe, but it's not because I am Jewish. I totally get that others may feel differently.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Also, I wouldn't be so sure that it won't be a problem. I went to Georgetown from 05-09. Every single year our menorah--which Hillel put up on campus--was vandalized. Someone spray painted swastikas on the walls of dorms.
Probably a hoax just like at GWU.
Huh? There is no world in which spray-painting a swastika is a hoax.
You need to stop trying to excuse discrimination against Jews. If someone spray-painted the word nig*er on the wall of a dorm, would you say it's a hoax?
seriously? Have you been living under a bubble for the past few years?
Anonymous wrote:So being against Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic? Wow...ok.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Faulty premise. There is no rising anti-semitism.
I think that's partially right. I think people are more willing to be public in their antisemitism, but it was that was already there. And the recipients are more willing to call them out on it. So the public incidences are on the rise. Antisemitism itself has been around for a pretty long time.
The Anti-Defamation League and the FBI put out reports saying anti-semitic attacks are on the rise. Jews are the most attacked group in the USA on a per capita basis.
Why you people are trying to diminish it is beyond me. I have a feeling you would never do this when it comes to attacks against African Americans. It's ok in this country to minimize the discrimination Jews face. It's disgusting.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Also, I wouldn't be so sure that it won't be a problem. I went to Georgetown from 05-09. Every single year our menorah--which Hillel put up on campus--was vandalized. Someone spray painted swastikas on the walls of dorms.
Probably a hoax just like at GWU.
Huh? There is no world in which spray-painting a swastika is a hoax.
You need to stop trying to excuse discrimination against Jews. If someone spray-painted the word nig*er on the wall of a dorm, would you say it's a hoax?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Side comment: We just went to a panel of high schoolers, who spoke about their experiences in DC schools. Every Jewish child in a non-Jewish school had experienced anti-semitism, from having swastikas on their lockers to being told by teachers that the Jews made up to holocaust. I was shocked by how overt it was.
My own DCPS child was told that she killed Jesus when she was in middle school. She's smart enough to know that it was a stupid statement by an uninformed tween and brushed it off but still...
Anonymous wrote:FWIW I discuss with Jews in other places outside of DCUM. I don't find this to be a good place to discuss my concerns.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So being against Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic? Wow...ok.
You clearly haven't been following this issue, so read about it before deciding that's what anyone meant.
There is a contingent of anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian people who have taken their anti-Israel sentiment to the level of being anti-Semitic. That does not mean that merely being anti-Israel means you are anti-Semitic.
You need to research this issue.
I disagree with that. I think the root cause on college campuses is the BDS movement and the reaction from the pro israel supporters. It has been over top and really soured a whole generation on Israel. The pro israel stands is anyone who disagree with Israel is anti Semitic. Calling people who want to boycott or not invest in Israel anti Semitic is just counterproductive. Forcing people to buy israel or invest in israel by rule of law or university administration policy after they have voted not to just piss people off.
Anonymous wrote:Side comment: We just went to a panel of high schoolers, who spoke about their experiences in DC schools. Every Jewish child in a non-Jewish school had experienced anti-semitism, from having swastikas on their lockers to being told by teachers that the Jews made up to holocaust. I was shocked by how overt it was.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So being against Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic? Wow...ok.
You clearly haven't been following this issue, so read about it before deciding that's what anyone meant.
There is a contingent of anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian people who have taken their anti-Israel sentiment to the level of being anti-Semitic. That does not mean that merely being anti-Israel means you are anti-Semitic.
You need to research this issue.
I disagree with that. I think the root cause on college campuses is the BDS movement and the reaction from the pro israel supporters. It has been over top and really soured a whole generation on Israel. The pro israel stands is anyone who disagree with Israel is anti Semitic. Calling people who want to boycott or not invest in Israel anti Semitic is just counterproductive. Forcing people to buy israel or invest in israel by rule of law or university administration policy after they have voted not to just piss people off.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So being against Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is anti-Semitic? Wow...ok.
You clearly haven't been following this issue, so read about it before deciding that's what anyone meant.
There is a contingent of anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian people who have taken their anti-Israel sentiment to the level of being anti-Semitic. That does not mean that merely being anti-Israel means you are anti-Semitic.
You need to research this issue.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Faulty premise. There is no rising anti-semitism.
I think that's partially right. I think people are more willing to be public in their antisemitism, but it was that was already there. And the recipients are more willing to call them out on it. So the public incidences are on the rise. Antisemitism itself has been around for a pretty long time.
Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Also, I wouldn't be so sure that it won't be a problem. I went to Georgetown from 05-09. Every single year our menorah--which Hillel put up on campus--was vandalized. Someone spray painted swastikas on the walls of dorms.
Probably a hoax just like at GWU.