Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 16:28     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son begged me to redshirt him and I said no. But most people I know are willing to cheat the system this way.


How is it cheating the system. The parental waiver is built into the law - at least in VA. The system is designed that way because sometimes kids are not ready. It’s actually really sad that your kid begged you to redshirt and you ignored him. You would have been well within your rights as a parent to do so.


Yes, this is where the cheating comes in. The intent is to provide an exception for kids with delays, social-emotional challenges, etc. But in reality, many (usually upper middle class/wealthy) parents use it to ensure their normally developing kids have an advantage—size, academics, athletics—over their peers. They’re very open about it! That’s cheating.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 15:53     Subject: Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

No. Never.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 15:41     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Nope. I have, however, helped my 8th grader learn to find study aids in the internet (other people’s quizlets, spark notes etc). He always does the assigned work (and not particularly well)) But, he doesn’t know how to study and these things help.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 15:26     Subject: Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

The old tests thing is on the teacher not the student. Universities have old exams at the tutoring centers that everyone can buy and the professors maybe occasionally reuse a question or 2 out of say 80. Every kid with an older sibling has access to old tests. Should be for all to see as just an idea of what the most important material is.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 15:13     Subject: Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

OP you are not alone. I would be seriously upset and disappointed if I found out my junior was cheating. Would not condone.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 14:52     Subject: Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

My neighbor who teaches at TJ says that students there have told her that test prep places will pay them for memorizing questions from tests and then writing them down to give to the tutors there. The test prep place has test question banks that they use when tutoring TJ kids.

I don’t know if the parents know that this goes on.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 14:46     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

I have looked the other way with homework sharing.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 12:31     Subject: Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Anonymous wrote:Re: how they use AirPods to cheat, they record themselves saying answers and facts and then listen during the test to the loop.

One kid has accommodations and gets to take her tests in a room with just a proctor. She calls her mom, says the questions out loud in the room, and then waits to be fed the answer. The proctor is none the wiser because she gets to test alone because speaking out loud helps her process. The mom is SO proud of how they played the system and her doctors to get this accommodation. Disgusting!

I’m so shocked by these parents that I’m tempted to make some calls. They’ll 100% know it’s me but are these people I want as friends? Not hardly.




I asked my teen if they'd heard of this. He said yeah in that teen DUH MOM way and then showed me a bunch of TikTok videos showing ways to cheat.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 11:51     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Graduated at the top of my class of 750. I did " cheat" through high school. Looked at my friend's test paper just to see if we were the same. If not, I reworked the problem. Also we took turns doing homework and just copied each other's answers.

Never cheated on standardized tests or in college.

There were no repercussions.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2019 11:39     Subject: Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Anonymous wrote:Re: how they use AirPods to cheat, they record themselves saying answers and facts and then listen during the test to the loop.

One kid has accommodations and gets to take her tests in a room with just a proctor. She calls her mom, says the questions out loud in the room, and then waits to be fed the answer. The proctor is none the wiser because she gets to test alone because speaking out loud helps her process. The mom is SO proud of how they played the system and her doctors to get this accommodation. Disgusting!

I’m so shocked by these parents that I’m tempted to make some calls. They’ll 100% know it’s me but are these people I want as friends? Not hardly.


Wow, that is really despicable.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 21:21     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son begged me to redshirt him and I said no. But most people I know are willing to cheat the system this way.



You're five year old son begged you to redshirt him?


No. He was older I explained above.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 21:19     Subject: Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Re: how they use AirPods to cheat, they record themselves saying answers and facts and then listen during the test to the loop.

One kid has accommodations and gets to take her tests in a room with just a proctor. She calls her mom, says the questions out loud in the room, and then waits to be fed the answer. The proctor is none the wiser because she gets to test alone because speaking out loud helps her process. The mom is SO proud of how they played the system and her doctors to get this accommodation. Disgusting!

I’m so shocked by these parents that I’m tempted to make some calls. They’ll 100% know it’s me but are these people I want as friends? Not hardly.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 18:41     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Anonymous wrote:My son begged me to redshirt him and I said no. But most people I know are willing to cheat the system this way.



You're five year old son begged you to redshirt him?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 18:38     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

How the heck were these parents helping their kids cheat?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2019 18:28     Subject: Re:Do you condone cheating? Do you help your kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son begged me to redshirt him and I said no. But most people I know are willing to cheat the system this way.


How is it cheating the system. The parental waiver is built into the law - at least in VA. The system is designed that way because sometimes kids are not ready. It’s actually really sad that your kid begged you to redshirt and you ignored him. You would have been well within your rights as a parent to do so.


But he was ready and he wanted to do it for sports.

It did help with college admissions but if he redshirted it would have been much easier.


A 5 year old was begging you to red-shirt him for sports? Really? How did a 5 year old even know this was a thing? I can't even figure out how it could be an older kid because then you'd have to repeat a grade, but I also can't imagine a 5 year old coming up with this request.


He was an 8th header, then he applied to a boarding school, again as a senior applied to PG programs.