Anonymous
02/19/2020 11:11
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
Arlington 04 Red is in the Super Group. This is a CCL team, correct? Did they leave CCL or are they doing double league play?
Anonymous
02/19/2020 10:45
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Read above. You just play your D1 schedule, which is usually like 9 games. Only those games against the teams from the Super Group count towards who wins the Super Group. So you still have a 9 game season. No more. No less. NCSL only posted the teams who are in the Super Group. They did not post the entire D1 Group.
Plus the winner gains entry into the regional championship, correct? Makes sense to me. The older super group champion teams should be particularly strong after so many years playing in a full-on promotion/relegation league where each age group sporting about five healthy looking divisions. I really don't how the older super group winners could be anything other than very competitive.
Looks like some really strong teams are in some of the Super Groups, like in the 04 Boys division with SYC, Arlington, Alexandria, SDor.
Anonymous
02/19/2020 10:30
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
Anonymous wrote:Read above. You just play your D1 schedule, which is usually like 9 games. Only those games against the teams from the Super Group count towards who wins the Super Group. So you still have a 9 game season. No more. No less. NCSL only posted the teams who are in the Super Group. They did not post the entire D1 Group.
Plus the winner gains entry into the regional championship, correct? Makes sense to me. The older super group champion teams should be particularly strong after so many years playing in a full-on promotion/relegation league where each age group sporting about five healthy looking divisions. I really don't how the older super group winners could be anything other than very competitive.
Anonymous
02/19/2020 10:07
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
Anonymous wrote:FPYCparent wrote:Seems like some Spring 2020 SuperGroups have been announced:
http://ncsl-soccer.com/schedules-and-results
What is the point of this??? To play 3 or 4 games as your season?
Read above. You just play your D1 schedule, which is usually like 9 games. Only those games against the teams from the Super Group count towards who wins the Super Group. So you still have a 9 game season. No more. No less. NCSL only posted the teams who are in the Super Group. They did not post the entire D1 Group.
Anonymous
02/19/2020 09:22
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
FPYCparent wrote:Seems like some Spring 2020 SuperGroups have been announced:
http://ncsl-soccer.com/schedules-and-results
What is the point of this??? To play 3 or 4 games as your season?
Anonymous
01/22/2020 14:51
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:We were told it would replace D1 play as it’s own division.
No, it would NOT replace D1. You play your same exact D1 schedule. Who ever has the most points at the end of the season is the D1 champ. Just like always. The Super Group is a subset of the D1 division. Of those games where you played a Super Group team, those games ALSO count towards the winner of the Super Group. The winner of the Super Group advances to play in a 4 team tournament in Fredericksburg and the winner of that goes to Regionals. For example. let's say that D1 is PWSI, Arlington, Loudoun, BRYC, Herndon, SYA, SYC, CYA, VSA, and Alexandria. You play each team once and the team with the most points is the D1 champ like always. Let's say that PWSI, Loudoun, Herndon, and CYA applied for and are in the Super Group. The Super Group is only these 4 teams. There are no teams outside of NCSL D1 in the Super Group. To be in the Super Group, you must be in NCSL D1. When they played their regular season games those results between the Super Group teams also count towards who wins the Super Group. So if PWSI went undefeated in D1, they win D1 and the Super Group obviously. However, if PWSI loses to say Loudoun and win all their other games (they go 8-1 in D1 and 2-1 in Super Group) and Loudoun wins their 3 Super Group games and loses all their other games (they go 3-6 in D1 and 3-0 in Super Group), they win the Super Group because they were undefeated in the Super Group games. So there are no extra games. There is no extra travel. No extra anything...except extra money to NCSL to pay for the champions tournament.
this is dumb
Anonymous
01/22/2020 14:47
Subject: NCSL SuperGroup?
Correct- it will NOT replace D1. Originally it was stated it would. However, as previous posters surmised, i don't think there was enough interest from non-NCSL teams so it was modified.
Anonymous
01/22/2020 13:58
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
Anonymous wrote:We were told it would replace D1 play as it’s own division.
No, it would NOT replace D1. You play your same exact D1 schedule. Who ever has the most points at the end of the season is the D1 champ. Just like always. The Super Group is a subset of the D1 division. Of those games where you played a Super Group team, those games ALSO count towards the winner of the Super Group. The winner of the Super Group advances to play in a 4 team tournament in Fredericksburg and the winner of that goes to Regionals. For example. let's say that D1 is PWSI, Arlington, Loudoun, BRYC, Herndon, SYA, SYC, CYA, VSA, and Alexandria. You play each team once and the team with the most points is the D1 champ like always. Let's say that PWSI, Loudoun, Herndon, and CYA applied for and are in the Super Group. The Super Group is only these 4 teams. There are no teams outside of NCSL D1 in the Super Group. To be in the Super Group, you must be in NCSL D1. When they played their regular season games those results between the Super Group teams also count towards who wins the Super Group. So if PWSI went undefeated in D1, they win D1 and the Super Group obviously. However, if PWSI loses to say Loudoun and win all their other games (they go 8-1 in D1 and 2-1 in Super Group) and Loudoun wins their 3 Super Group games and loses all their other games (they go 3-6 in D1 and 3-0 in Super Group), they win the Super Group because they were undefeated in the Super Group games. So there are no extra games. There is no extra travel. No extra anything...except extra money to NCSL to pay for the champions tournament.
Anonymous
01/22/2020 12:57
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
We were told it would replace D1 play as it’s own division.
Anonymous
01/22/2020 12:41
Subject: NCSL SuperGroup?
Anonymous wrote:My DD team from D1 was selected to join this Super Group. Nobody seems to know what this means. Is there more travel for league games? Is there better competition? Is there more cost? Will this be better than an EDP club or ECNL club? NCSL is doing a poor job in explaining what to expect.
To the best of my knowledge, the Super Group is made of those teams in NCSL D1 that registered for State Cup and want to be part of the Super Group. When you play your league games as you normally would, when you play a team that is in Super Group, that result will count towards Super Group standings and regular D1 standings. If the team is NOT in the Super group, then that game will just count toward the D1 standings. So the Super Group does not affect your normal NCSL schedule what so ever. It is possible that only two of your D1 teams decided to do Super Group, so the winner of that league game will be the winner of the Super Group too and will advance to that champions tournament. As to competition, I believe NCSL did this to try to draw some of the teams that left NCSL back to NCSL to improve the competition in NCSL. But in order to do that, they have to leave their league and rejoin NCSL. So my hunch is that very few teams did that. I mean who would leave their current league just for this Super Group thing. They can stay in their league and just play state cup. I beleive it costs $150 per team to join super group. This moeny will go towards the fields, erferees, etc for the champions tournament or whatever it's called.
Anonymous
01/22/2020 11:33
Subject: NCSL SuperGroup?
Anonymous wrote:My DD team from D1 was selected to join this Super Group. Nobody seems to know what this means. Is there more travel for league games? Is there better competition? Is there more cost? Will this be better than an EDP club or ECNL club? NCSL is doing a poor job in explaining what to expect.
It will be better than ecnl and da.
Anonymous
01/22/2020 11:26
Subject: NCSL SuperGroup?
My DD team from D1 was selected to join this Super Group. Nobody seems to know what this means. Is there more travel for league games? Is there better competition? Is there more cost? Will this be better than an EDP club or ECNL club? NCSL is doing a poor job in explaining what to expect.
Anonymous
12/18/2019 18:50
Subject: NCSL SuperGroup?
I'd just email Ryan Rich if you really had a need to know. Otherwise, looks like just a way to induce good teams to join the Super Group Spring Season who either didn't play NCSL in the Fall season or felt they got screwed somehow. I assume they play the full spring season. As to why this exists, it's pretty common for tournaments to have these fun kind of back door qualifiers.
Anonymous
12/18/2019 17:30
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?
So in order to be considered for Super Group, you must be registered for State Cup. The top 3 teams in D1 NCSL in the Fall and the #1 team from D2 are in. My question is about these potential 6 (or more) at-large teams. I say "or more" because the top 3 teams in D1 or #1 in D2 may not register for state cup, which would eliminate them from Super Group. Do these 6 or more teams have to join NCSL for the Spring season and either (1) leave their current league (EDP for example) or (2) play a double league schedule such as CCL or EDP schedules...and the state cup schedule? Will teams really leave their current league and join NCSL just for this? I still don't even know why this exists. Just register for state cup and, if you advance to regionals, you advance to regionals. Why do teams need a 2nd pathway?
Anonymous
12/18/2019 16:44
Subject: Re:NCSL SuperGroup?