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Anonymous wrote:What kind of anti-social person are you that you just moved here yet have no interest in getting to know your immediate neighbors? The families your kids go to school with? Community is dead.

She said she works from home and the mornings are her busiest. Should she sacrifice her job to talk gossip for 15 or so minutes? My ES kids go to school so late now, thanks to the whiny high schoolers wanting more sleep. They don't even get picked up until 9:00am from our bus stop. That is leaving around 8:50am and getting back at 9:10am. That may not be feasible for a WOHM. We relocate every 2-3 years and this last move was the only time, no one in the neighborhood came to introduce themselves after we moved in. There is no community here. The bus stop moms aren't the ones looking to be friendly with others. It is a negative bunch. Her showing up to play the game instead of working, when her kids can clearly walk on their own - is the problem. You are guilting her into being like this. It is ridiculous.

You're very ignorant....
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Anonymous wrote:What kind of anti-social person are you that you just moved here yet have no interest in getting to know your immediate neighbors? The families your kids go to school with? Community is dead.

She said she works from home and the mornings are her busiest. Should she sacrifice her job to talk gossip for 15 or so minutes? My ES kids go to school so late now, thanks to the whiny high schoolers wanting more sleep. They don't even get picked up until 9:00am from our bus stop. That is leaving around 8:50am and getting back at 9:10am. That may not be feasible for a WOHM. We relocate every 2-3 years and this last move was the only time, no one in the neighborhood came to introduce themselves after we moved in. There is no community here. The bus stop moms aren't the ones looking to be friendly with others. It is a negative bunch. Her showing up to play the game instead of working, when her kids can clearly walk on their own - is the problem. You are guilting her into being like this. It is ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:What kind of anti-social person are you that you just moved here yet have no interest in getting to know your immediate neighbors? The families your kids go to school with? Community is dead.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd rather have the hoard of standing parents at the bus stop vs. the hoard of minivans that congregate on rainy, cold, or snowy days.

Why ONE parent can't be designated the "holding" van instead of each kid needing their own van is beyond me (and then rotate it). The other morning when we had our first frost and it was in the 30s, 10 minivans were lined at the bus stop on each side, totally illegally parked as well, and made it so difficult to make a right or left out of our neighborhood.

THIS!! This is not a "I like talking to other moms" situation. This is a coddling situation.

And for what it is worth, I don't like either situation. Kids actually need independence and autonomy. If you want a morning social hour, go off and get coffee or go do yoga together. There are parents at the middle school bus stop here. Just no.

I had a mom creepily ride slowly back in her minivan once I started letting my daughter walk home alone. She did this 3 days in a row. My DD hated it and came in, in a puff all 3 days. I sent her a text saying thanks, but DD doesn't like it and she asked and is fine walking home on her own. She sent me back a long text about how she was worried about her. She is 9 and it is maybe 7 houses away. The fear mongering and I love my kids more than yours, is aggressive in the metro suburbs.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd rather have the hoard of standing parents at the bus stop vs. the hoard of minivans that congregate on rainy, cold, or snowy days.

Why ONE parent can't be designated the "holding" van instead of each kid needing their own van is beyond me (and then rotate it). The other morning when we had our first frost and it was in the 30s, 10 minivans were lined at the bus stop on each side, totally illegally parked as well, and made it so difficult to make a right or left out of our neighborhood.

THIS!! This is not a "I like talking to other moms" situation. This is a coddling situation.

And for what it is worth, I don't like either situation. Kids actually need independence and autonomy. If you want a morning social hour, go off and get coffee or go do yoga together. There are parents at the middle school bus stop here. Just no.

I had a mom creepily ride slowly back in her minivan once I started letting my daughter walk home alone. She did this 3 days in a row. My DD hated it and came in, in a puff all 3 days. I sent her a text saying thanks, but DD doesn't like it and she asked and is fine walking home on her own. She sent me back a long text about how she was worried about her. She is 9 and it is maybe 7 houses away. The fear mongering and I love my kids more than yours, is aggressive in the metro suburbs.

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You are flustered because you are not used to more involved parenting and feel you might be judged for continuing your perfectly legitimate parenting.

Don't criticize these parents for having the free time and desire to socialize. I am the only adult to stick around at the bus stop, and am the one who calls the bus depot when the bus is running late, so that I can reassure kids who start getting anxious.

I doubt you'll get judged, but it would be diplomatic to introduce yourself, or at least smile warmly and greet the adults. If you say you just moved here, they will welcome you. If you say your mornings are really busy, and that you will be sending your kids alone in the future, they will understand.

These types of little social issues can always be solved by COMMUNICATION.

Helicopter parents abound here OP. Example A.

Welcome from one PA person to another!

So true! I am from Connecticut and we sent our kids out to the the bus stop in the snow. See ya!! Here, all the parents actually drive their precious kids to the bus stop. Yes, they turn their car on, heat it up, drive up the street and idle their toxic fumes at the bus stop in front of the handful of actual walkers until the bus comes, and then turns their car back around and go home! Precious only has to be in the cold for 4.3 seconds that way.

OP, they actually close schools here if there are flurries or if it is too cold. Yes, just cold weather! It is insane. A whole new world of suffocating parents.
Find some transplant families like yourself. They are much more laid back.

Everyone is a transplant here, PP. Hate to break it to you, but you are not unique.

Anonymous wrote:I'd rather have the hoard of standing parents at the bus stop vs. the hoard of minivans that congregate on rainy, cold, or snowy days.

Why ONE parent can't be designated the "holding" van instead of each kid needing their own van is beyond me (and then rotate it). The other morning when we had our first frost and it was in the 30s, 10 minivans were lined at the bus stop on each side, totally illegally parked as well, and made it so difficult to make a right or left out of our neighborhood.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You are flustered because you are not used to more involved parenting and feel you might be judged for continuing your perfectly legitimate parenting.

Don't criticize these parents for having the free time and desire to socialize. I am the only adult to stick around at the bus stop, and am the one who calls the bus depot when the bus is running late, so that I can reassure kids who start getting anxious.

I doubt you'll get judged, but it would be diplomatic to introduce yourself, or at least smile warmly and greet the adults. If you say you just moved here, they will welcome you. If you say your mornings are really busy, and that you will be sending your kids alone in the future, they will understand.

These types of little social issues can always be solved by COMMUNICATION.

Helicopter parents abound here OP. Example A.

Welcome from one PA person to another!

Anonymous wrote:Agree it's a social thing. And, well, it's fun to send off or greet our kids! And to the poster who suggested these parents are helicopter parents whose kids won't learn to walk down the sidewalk by themselves...I don't think it necessarily follows that parents who walk their kids to the bus stop never give them freedom, etc. At least, that's not how it happens in our neighborhood (kids running around all the time unsupervised all the time - we feel ok with it because we know our neighbors!).