Anonymous
10/09/2019 09:07
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Duke Ellington is ranked #5 in the city on academics (USNWR), but of the top 5 it is the only one that does not accept kids based on academics. Entry is solely based on the audition, so saying Duke does not do well in academics ignores the fact that (a) arts is not included in the rankings and (b) it stands at #5 with many kids coming in with far lower academic standing than SWW, Banneker, McKinley. Also many Duke grads do not go into the arts for college or a profession, but the training is pre-professional, so as others said, if your child is a "like" the arts person and not a "love the arts" person, a 8:30-5pm day will not serve them well.
To be ranked #5 in DC for academics is actually pretty bad. Our #1-3 schools don’t hold a candle academically to many large suburban public high schools.
As others have said, you pick DE if you are hoping to make it in the arts professionally. Risky choice for anyone else.
Wilson was #9. Just sayin'
Wow, that is crazy. Can someone post a list of the top 10 dc public schools. I have not been hearing good things about Wilson from current parents lately
Anonymous
10/09/2019 08:05
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Duke Ellington is ranked #5 in the city on academics (USNWR), but of the top 5 it is the only one that does not accept kids based on academics. Entry is solely based on the audition, so saying Duke does not do well in academics ignores the fact that (a) arts is not included in the rankings and (b) it stands at #5 with many kids coming in with far lower academic standing than SWW, Banneker, McKinley. Also many Duke grads do not go into the arts for college or a profession, but the training is pre-professional, so as others said, if your child is a "like" the arts person and not a "love the arts" person, a 8:30-5pm day will not serve them well.
To be ranked #5 in DC for academics is actually pretty bad. Our #1-3 schools don’t hold a candle academically to many large suburban public high schools.
As others have said, you pick DE if you are hoping to make it in the arts professionally. Risky choice for anyone else.
Wilson was #9. Just sayin'
Anonymous
10/09/2019 08:02
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Duke Ellington is ranked #5 in the city on academics (USNWR), but of the top 5 it is the only one that does not accept kids based on academics. Entry is solely based on the audition, so saying Duke does not do well in academics ignores the fact that (a) arts is not included in the rankings and (b) it stands at #5 with many kids coming in with far lower academic standing than SWW, Banneker, McKinley. Also many Duke grads do not go into the arts for college or a profession, but the training is pre-professional, so as others said, if your child is a "like" the arts person and not a "love the arts" person, a 8:30-5pm day will not serve them well.
Do people really refer to the school as "Duke" now? All the other schools named after people go by the person's last name (like Banneker and McKinley above). Duke just sounds off.
DESA, Ellington and Duke and used pretty interchangeably. On a listserv when people are typing quickly, Duke seems fine.
For all the Deal convos I’ve seen here, never seen an Alice posting. Or a Teddy or a Paul Dunbar, or whoever Brent’s first name was.
None of those people are jazz musicians whose first name was as well known, if not more so, than his last.
Anonymous
10/09/2019 07:58
Subject: Re:Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if they are planning to expand the number of students at Duke? Why else is half the school empty? Are there plans to use that space for something else?
It is a ridiculous and untrue statement to to say that half the school is empty. What half are you referring to exactly, and by what definition? It is under its full capacity by about only 40 students at this point. It has doubled its previous space, so of course it will take 3-4 years to fill it using the audition-based entry. The design of its theater at the center of the school perhaps makes it look less full than it is because the classrooms surround the center, but those rooms are full.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 20:52
Subject: Re:Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
What does Duke do on Count day? 
Anonymous
10/08/2019 16:55
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ellington did reasonable on PARCC - 88% 3+ on ELA, 83% 3+ on Math. Your kids won’t be surrounded by morons by any means.
Getting a 3 = morons.
What about 4+? That's more relevant to OP's DS.
I would say more like a 5. 4 is grade level, average. 5 is above average to advanced.
Ok then. Then you probably need to leave DC because everyone sucks in your opinion.
City-wide:
4027 students took the 10th grade ELA exam. 11% scored 5 (442 students)
3821 students took the Geometry test (not all were 10th graders when they sat for it, but that's the highest level tested) - 2.5% scored 5
194 students took Integrated Math 2 and 8.2% scored 5
Many parents like myself, realize how poorly DC students do overall. Sure poverty plays a role but above numbers speaks very poorly of the kids academic performance in DC. I think a big reason is because there is no tracking and the higher performing kids are not challenged enough to their fullest potential
Also, since DCPS schools are not very good as compared to those of our neighbors, many parents give up on DCPS and move to the burbs or go private.
Generational poverty plays the biggest role. One's mother's SES is the biggest factor in determining one's academic and economic outcomes.
And all high school students know that PARCC is irrelevant to their own lives. More than a few who could do well blow it off. My son got a 3 in Math and ELA during high school (Wilson). Same kid got 5s in MS. He also scored 5 on 7 AP exams, 35 on the ACT and 1560 on the SAT.
PARCC is not a great measure of school quality, especially at a school like Ellington where students are selected on the basis of talent and drive and not on academic achievement.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 16:48
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ellington did reasonable on PARCC - 88% 3+ on ELA, 83% 3+ on Math. Your kids won’t be surrounded by morons by any means.
Getting a 3 = morons.
What about 4+? That's more relevant to OP's DS.
I would say more like a 5. 4 is grade level, average. 5 is above average to advanced.
Ok then. Then you probably need to leave DC because everyone sucks in your opinion.
City-wide:
4027 students took the 10th grade ELA exam. 11% scored 5 (442 students)
3821 students took the Geometry test (not all were 10th graders when they sat for it, but that's the highest level tested) - 2.5% scored 5
194 students took Integrated Math 2 and 8.2% scored 5
Many parents like myself, realize how poorly DC students do overall. Sure poverty plays a role but above numbers speaks very poorly of the kids academic performance in DC. I think a big reason is because there is no tracking and the higher performing kids are not challenged enough to their fullest potential
Also, since DCPS schools are not very good as compared to those of our neighbors, many parents give up on DCPS and move to the burbs or go private.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 16:32
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Nope. Not challenging enough in basic subjects.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 16:04
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ellington did reasonable on PARCC - 88% 3+ on ELA, 83% 3+ on Math. Your kids won’t be surrounded by morons by any means.
Getting a 3 = morons.
What about 4+? That's more relevant to OP's DS.
I would say more like a 5. 4 is grade level, average. 5 is above average to advanced.
Ok then. Then you probably need to leave DC because everyone sucks in your opinion.
City-wide:
4027 students took the 10th grade ELA exam. 11% scored 5 (442 students)
3821 students took the Geometry test (not all were 10th graders when they sat for it, but that's the highest level tested) - 2.5% scored 5
194 students took Integrated Math 2 and 8.2% scored 5
Anonymous
10/08/2019 16:03
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:I have a child who is great at drawing and painting, but is also really smart.
Does anyone know how Duke does in this area?
TIA
Big fish, little pond. Your kid could rise to the top provided they're also interested in the arts.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 15:51
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To be clear, Duke Ellington is ranked #5 in the city on academics (USNWR), but of the top 5 it is the only one that does not accept kids based on academics. Entry is solely based on the audition, so saying Duke does not do well in academics ignores the fact that (a) arts is not included in the rankings and (b) it stands at #5 with many kids coming in with far lower academic standing than SWW, Banneker, McKinley. Also many Duke grads do not go into the arts for college or a profession, but the training is pre-professional, so as others said, if your child is a "like" the arts person and not a "love the arts" person, a 8:30-5pm day will not serve them well.
Do people really refer to the school as "Duke" now? All the other schools named after people go by the person's last name (like Banneker and McKinley above). Duke just sounds off.
DESA, Ellington and Duke and used pretty interchangeably. On a listserv when people are typing quickly, Duke seems fine.
For all the Deal convos I’ve seen here, never seen an Alice posting. Or a Teddy or a Paul Dunbar, or whoever Brent’s first name was.
Brent's first name is Robert but his friends call him Bob.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 15:45
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ellington did reasonable on PARCC - 88% 3+ on ELA, 83% 3+ on Math. Your kids won’t be surrounded by morons by any means.
Getting a 3 = morons.
What about 4+? That's more relevant to OP's DS.
I would say more like a 5. 4 is grade level, average. 5 is above average to advanced.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 15:06
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Anonymous wrote:Ellington did reasonable on PARCC - 88% 3+ on ELA, 83% 3+ on Math. Your kids won’t be surrounded by morons by any means.
Getting a 3 = morons.
What about 4+? That's more relevant to OP's DS.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 14:57
Subject: Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
Side note: please stop using the word “kiddo.” Like nails on a freaking chalkboard.
Carry on.
Carry on.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 14:54
Subject: Re:Is Duke Ellington also good for academically bright kiddos?
No one should be impressed by those scores. We should ask more of our schools rather than try and justify substandard scores.