Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 10:57     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Anonymous wrote:She's been identified as: Anne Sacoolas


She lived in Vienna, Virginia, according to the news.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 10:09     Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can she be extradited from other EU countries?


Or any other countries?


It's unlikely. The US Gov't is asserting diplomatic immunity, which might seem unjust in this case, but it's still a widely recognized principle of diplomatic relations/international law.

I'm not aware of any case where it's been invoked where the accused has later been subject to extradition from another jurisdiction.

She should probably never return to the UK, however.

Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 09:49     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

She and/or her husband were spies. UK knew they were spies. After the boy died I’m sure she was told to leave by both governments. She probably knew he was dead before the police knew. She won’t be returning to the U.K. Her and her husband’s careers are over. She will have terrible nightmares the rest of her life and her children will be impacted. Of course this is nothing compared to the man who lost his life and his family. The only reason why Boris Johnson is even talking about this is to deflect the whole mistress and misappropriation of funds drama surrounding him. He does not care about this boy or his family at all.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 09:41     Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Anonymous wrote:Can she be extradited from other EU countries?


Or any other countries?
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 09:41     Subject: Re:Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Can she be extradited from other EU countries?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 20:50     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Anonymous wrote:The British government is demanding she be sent back to face justice: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/world/europe/harry-dunn-crash-us-suspect.html?emc=rss&partner=rss

Our relationships with just about everyone have frayed. This woman is penny ante, is almost certainly guilty of a crime, and the UK justice system is not exactly Yemen. They ought to remove her immunity and extradite her as a gesture of goodwill to an important historical ally.


The state department has already released a statement saying that waiving immunity would be extremely unlikely. I can see there being backlash in the diplomatic community if the home country can just randomly decide what does/does not qualify for diplomatic immunity. I highly doubt she will ever return to the UK.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 19:57     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

The British government is demanding she be sent back to face justice: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/world/europe/harry-dunn-crash-us-suspect.html?emc=rss&partner=rss

Our relationships with just about everyone have frayed. This woman is penny ante, is almost certainly guilty of a crime, and the UK justice system is not exactly Yemen. They ought to remove her immunity and extradite her as a gesture of goodwill to an important historical ally.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 17:33     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

She still needs to stand up and face the music.

Nobody thinks she deserves life in prison, but being married to a diplomat shouldn't be license to kill locals just because "Oops, I forgot I'm in the UK."
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 17:15     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

If she did this in the US, she wouldn't even hardly be punished. "Oops I didn't see him!" is a valid defense here.

See the case of John Miller the guy who ran over the baby in Lansdowne and severely injured his mother. He got 1 year but was then approved for work release.

https://loudounnow.com/2018/04/05/miller-approved-for-work-release-while-serving-sentence-in-infants-death/

Sacoolas's mistake was just as accidental as Miller's.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 16:17     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Nice way to show your tween how to be honest and face your mistakes. The kid was sitting in the front seat when she drove into the UK man. Now her kid is watching her run away from killing a man. Real nice "Christian" values there.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 15:10     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

I get that it's tricky for Americans to learn to drive on the opposite side of the road, and that she did not intentionally intend to murder this person, but...
If she had just been an expat, not on a diplomatic passport, she would have been arrested and had to stand trial. I presume the trial would have some up with whatever the version of vehicular manslaughter is, and probably reduced sentence. It's not that she needs to be hanged on spend the rest of her life in prison.
But she need to stand trial. There needs to be due process.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 12:16     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's been identified as: Anne Sacoolas



The Daily Mail has a big piece on her — they tracked down her family home in Vienna, Virginia:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7545013/PICTURED-diplomats-wife-fled-UK-ran-killed-


Interesting. The source that says she was driving on the wrong side of the road is the victim's parents. Wonder if there were any witnesses?



Is the CCTV good enough for you? The police studied the footage that covered the camp’s gates - that’s why they know she was on the wrong side of the road.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 11:48     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She's been identified as: Anne Sacoolas



The Daily Mail has a big piece on her — they tracked down her family home in Vienna, Virginia:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7545013/PICTURED-diplomats-wife-fled-UK-ran-killed-


Interesting. The source that says she was driving on the wrong side of the road is the victim's parents. Wonder if there were any witnesses?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 11:31     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

Anonymous wrote:She's been identified as: Anne Sacoolas



The Daily Mail has a big piece on her — they tracked down her family home in Vienna, Virginia:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7545013/PICTURED-diplomats-wife-fled-UK-ran-killed-
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 09:41     Subject: Foreigner who killed teen in car crash flees the country to evade justice

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Anonymous wrote:Accidents aren’t murder, but she needs to answer for this.


We don’t know, do we? It could have been a freak accident, running a red light, speeding, DUI or actual heat of passion murder. Without an investigation, there is no way to know.


It’s pretty obvious that she was a dumb American who forgot that Brits drive on the left side of the road. She turned out of the military base, drove in the right lane going the wrong direction, and hit the poor kid on a motorbike in a head on collision.


You do not know that. FWIW, if she has been living in Great Britain, she likely was quite competent driving on the left hand side of the road. I've lived in Japan and it is amazing how quickly you learn to drive on the left.

And, in Japan, if an American is involved in an accident, the American is almost always held responsible. At least, it was that way a while ago. I had a friend who was in a cab involved in an accident, and the cabbie told her to leave or she would be held responsible--even though she was his passenger. The rules may have change now--at least i hope so.


One of our diplomatic neighbors almost drove head on into a Metro bus because they assumed they were in the right, driving on the right hand side of the road with a whole care full of kids. Not everyone is able to remember to drive on the correct side of the road, if they move to another country. I reported her, because it wasn't the first time.


The diplo spouse had only been there for a few weeks. Seems plausible that she got confused.


Americans should not be allowed to drive in the UK period. Plenty of public transport options.


They weren't living on London.