Anonymous
10/08/2019 19:32
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
My first is in AAP. My second is advanced in math but average with the rest. She will probably end up in gen ed and I’m ok with it. I feel like maybe I’m missing something/something’s wrong with me when I read this forum though.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 12:58
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:DS 6 said it's very easy, he has Dec birthday. his 1st grade NNAT is 158.
Being young for grade can inflate scores on age-normed tests before age 7 because he's exposed to content atypical for his age. He'll still likely have a high score but it will likely be lower. This is one of the reason most IQ scores aren't considered stable until after 7.
Anonymous
10/08/2019 07:39
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:He didn't skip a grade, but, went to a private Kindergarten since he missed the cutoff, he transferred back to our local public school at 1st grade.
This happens more frequently then people know. DS had two kids in his Pre School class (15 kids) that went to Private Kindergarten to start school after missing the cut off. They were late October and early November birthdays. The Pre School thought they would do just fine in Kindergarten and would be bored if they stayed in Pre School. A third child who just missed the cut was recommended to stay in Pre School because he was not ready for Kindergarten.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 22:19
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
He didn't skip a grade, but, went to a private Kindergarten since he missed the cutoff, he transferred back to our local public school at 1st grade.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 21:43
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:DS 6 said it's very easy, he has Dec birthday. his 1st grade NNAT is 158.
He skipped a grade? Or did you move here from NY?
Anonymous
10/07/2019 21:34
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
DS 6 said it's very easy, he has Dec birthday. his 1st grade NNAT is 158.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 14:13
Subject: Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:It's not necessarily the case that the program is for the gifted, but that there are so many ES out there that offer no differentiation (ours didn't, until 5th grade), that your average bright and hard working child does not get a decent education in the gen ed program. Parents then have an incentive to push for AAP, because while it may not be a program for the gifted, it will at least give the kids an opportunity to get a satisfactory education
I wish LII and LIII were more uniform between schools. My LIII kid was placed in Advanced Math starting in 3rd grade. In language arts, the same kid had one day/week of word study, where the kids switched classrooms based on their levels, about 3 days in an above grade level reading group that managed to actually work with the teacher on those days, and one more day of a pull out with the AART. I don't see why every school couldn't offer the same thing. It's especially sad that so many schools won't start advanced math until 5th grade for the LII and LIII math kids.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 13:54
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
I agree Level II is no big deal but to not have even that little bit of differentiation for a bright kid is frustrating to me as a mom
Anonymous
10/07/2019 13:12
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:True. We are new to the area. My DC goes to a center school where currently there is no differentiation going on in her class even though she is in Level II and we do feel the education she is getting is poor and not enough.
Level II does not strike me as a big deal. DS is in second grade with Level II services and, according to him, they have yet to break into groups or do anything that makes me think there is any differentiation in Reading or Math.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 12:51
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
True. We are new to the area. My DC goes to a center school where currently there is no differentiation going on in her class even though she is in Level II and we do feel the education she is getting is poor and not enough.
Anonymous
10/07/2019 12:30
Subject: Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
It's not necessarily the case that the program is for the gifted, but that there are so many ES out there that offer no differentiation (ours didn't, until 5th grade), that your average bright and hard working child does not get a decent education in the gen ed program. Parents then have an incentive to push for AAP, because while it may not be a program for the gifted, it will at least give the kids an opportunity to get a satisfactory education
Anonymous
10/04/2019 19:33
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
A GT program isn't an "option". A student is either admitted or they aren't.
If AAP were a real GT program, I would agree with you. There's such a huge overlap between the abilities of the top kids in gen ed and the bottom half of AAP that it's hardly surprising for parents of kids in that ability group to want their kids in AAP. It's absurd to want your bright child in a gifted program. It's not absurd to want your bright child in the somewhat inconsistently and arbitrarily selected bright child program that is AAP.
Truth! Anyone thinking that the AAP Level IV program is for the "gifted" is just plain unaware of the program.
Anonymous
10/04/2019 17:02
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your child will be fine if they don't get into AAP. Deep breaths
I never said she wouldn’t be fine. But given the choice, she and DH and I would all prefer that she was in.
Striver Mommy should prepare herself to be sad...
DP. All three of my kids are in AAP and I happily wear the "striver mommy" badge. I try hard to make sure my kids are successful in life. I work hard everyday to expose them to as much as possible, and I'm pretty sure those things helped them get into AAP. OP, don't fall for the "striver mommy" as an insult ridiculousness.
Thanks. I would not take it as an insult but pretty sure nobody would call me striver mommy in real life. More like lazy mom, if anything.
Anonymous
10/04/2019 16:24
Subject: Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:Well, there go your chances at UVA.
Sorry you were rejected.
Anonymous
10/04/2019 16:20
Subject: Re:Ugh. DD thought CogAT was hard.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your child will be fine if they don't get into AAP. Deep breaths
I never said she wouldn’t be fine. But given the choice, she and DH and I would all prefer that she was in.
Striver Mommy should prepare herself to be sad...
I don't get why people think that it is bad that parents want their kids to have options.
A GT program isn't an "option". A student is either admitted or they aren't.
If you are accepted you can choose to attend or not. If you choose not to attend, you can choose to attend later. So it can be an option. There are people who do not activate the AAP option because they are happy with their kids base school, or the child is in a language immersion program, or the child is at a magnet school, or the parents don't want to separate the child from their friends, or the family has multiple kids and the parents don't want to worry about multiple schools and after care issues.
You don't have the option to defer if your child is not accepted.
Too bad.