Anonymous
Post 10/05/2019 19:15     Subject: Re:What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. "Once my generation retires, the world will go to SHAMBLES!"
Said every generation ever.

Maybe before you all retire, though, you could pass some damn legislation about climate change so your grandkids can still live on earth when they're your age. thanks.


Go out and vote.


Did I give the impression I didn't?

I don't vote for anyone over age 55 if I can help it, actually.


Not many options in 2020 then.


OMG don't I know it. Just read that Bernie had a heart attack. I mean... come on, old man. I like a lot of your ideas. But you're almost 80 years old. And just had a heart attack. Move aside.


The heart attack was 3 days ago. You don’t seem very current.


It was just in the news 1-2 days ago, though. It wasn't in the news immediately, they just said "Stent placement".
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2019 11:50     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:The past few years the amount of folks at work running areas 55 and over who have seen all business cycles and can make the tough the decisions and have a strong work ethic one by one are retiring. The next set of generations below don't have have a clue. Heck Look at WeWork CEO Adam Neuman he totally screwed up his whole company and IPO. No clue how to run a business. Meanwhile Jamie Dimon who is 63 at JP Morgan Chase runs a tight ship. JP Morgan have been only struggling to find a successor.

Pretty much not just CEO, CFO, CIO, CTO, CRO, etc the talent pool is week. Tons of great young workers, great department mangers etc. But the whole package is far and few. Why is that?

Who will be our next leaders of companies? The Unicorns, Uber, WeWork etc all seem to blow up and usually it is a young inexperienced C-suite to blame.


Jamie Dimon completely enabled Adam Neumann. No tight ship there. Where do you think Adam Neumann got his money from?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2019 10:55     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

OP I Like Gen X a lot. I think the last generation that actually grew up and remembers when work was hard and economy really sucked like from mid 70s till early 90s as kids for most part and as adults internet crash of 2001 and financial crisis. They grew up pre-iphone, internet era where as kids or young could figure stuff out for them selves.

There big downside is entering being born 1965 to 1980 they missed most of Booming Spring 1995- 2000 to really move up ladder and in part of career 2008-2013 they got hit with Financial Crisis. 35-45 are most important years when making jump to VP.

The other issue is the Boomers and Work career longevity. I had an excellent right hand man at my old company and today a women. The man was ten years younger and women 20 years younger. They dont want to work till 67. They also have dual income more than baby boomers so had more savings for retirements (two 401Ks) and often less kids. My last job everyone around 50-65 had 3-5 kids, the folks 30-50 had around 1-2 kids. My right hand man planned to retire by 55. My current right hand women plans to retire or scale back by late 40s.

Working like a dog to be CEO takes years. Usually mid 50s before you get a big CEO job. That does not align with a workforce that wants to start winding down at mid 50s.

Last week I interviewed two candidates. Both Qualified. Job is pretty cushy, 9-5, work from home one day a week, we give a months vacation, ten holidays, if early dismissal or snow I can let folks work from home. Really not bad.

The one who graduated college in 2007 who was only around 33 was looking to "scale back" She worked big four, had a great degree, worked for an amazing firm for resume. In great shape for someone her age. Her husband has a great job, they bought a condo a few years ago DC before prices took off and she had her first kid. Fine but she is looking to scale back.

Second candidate graduated college in 1984. He is looking for next big opportunity. Wants to roll up sleeves get to work and loves managing and mentoring young people. His last kid just graduated college and was ready to go.

A few weeks ago I fired a 42 year old, person had attendance issues and could not make it to work, showed up late, work project was sloppy, when I was writing them up they were like I am burnt out from this crap, 20 years of work.

I envy them they are not trapped at work like me. But also it takes 20-25 years to move up ladder, get MBA, get certificates, work at blue chip companies, manage multiple staff and work through various crisis and firedrills so by mid 40s you are in perfect shape to get an SVP or Managing director, but they are getting burnt out right when they should be even more motivated.

Anonymous
Post 10/05/2019 10:04     Subject: Re:What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. "Once my generation retires, the world will go to SHAMBLES!"
Said every generation ever.

Maybe before you all retire, though, you could pass some damn legislation about climate change so your grandkids can still live on earth when they're your age. thanks.


Go out and vote.


Did I give the impression I didn't?

I don't vote for anyone over age 55 if I can help it, actually.


Not many options in 2020 then.


OMG don't I know it. Just read that Bernie had a heart attack. I mean... come on, old man. I like a lot of your ideas. But you're almost 80 years old. And just had a heart attack. Move aside.


The heart attack was 3 days ago. You don’t seem very current.


DP, but the campaign only confirmed the heart attack today. Previously they were only admitting to the stents and were withholding what exactly led to the procedure.


Let's just give Trump another 4 years. He is in excellent health per his doctor.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2019 07:51     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

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Anonymous wrote:What happens?

Hopefully, workplaces become more flexible and family-friendly, everyone earns at least a living wage, health care becomes a human right, all children receive free high-quality child care, all parents get a year of parental leave... just for starters.

Retire already, please!


Can’t wait for $20 Big Macs, $100,000 Chevys and one million for a college degree, hey anyone have a $100 bucks the Pizza guy is here.


Eh, the pizza guy is already $50. And I’ll gladly pay $20 for lunch if it means I can have all the other stuff that EVERY OTHER FIRST WORLD COUNTRY already has.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2019 00:48     Subject: Re:What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. "Once my generation retires, the world will go to SHAMBLES!"
Said every generation ever.

Maybe before you all retire, though, you could pass some damn legislation about climate change so your grandkids can still live on earth when they're your age. thanks.


Go out and vote.


Did I give the impression I didn't?

I don't vote for anyone over age 55 if I can help it, actually.


Not many options in 2020 then.


OMG don't I know it. Just read that Bernie had a heart attack. I mean... come on, old man. I like a lot of your ideas. But you're almost 80 years old. And just had a heart attack. Move aside.


The heart attack was 3 days ago. You don’t seem very current.


DP, but the campaign only confirmed the heart attack today. Previously they were only admitting to the stents and were withholding what exactly led to the procedure.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 23:15     Subject: Re:What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. "Once my generation retires, the world will go to SHAMBLES!"
Said every generation ever.

Maybe before you all retire, though, you could pass some damn legislation about climate change so your grandkids can still live on earth when they're your age. thanks.


Go out and vote.


Did I give the impression I didn't?

I don't vote for anyone over age 55 if I can help it, actually.


Not many options in 2020 then.


OMG don't I know it. Just read that Bernie had a heart attack. I mean... come on, old man. I like a lot of your ideas. But you're almost 80 years old. And just had a heart attack. Move aside.


The heart attack was 3 days ago. You don’t seem very current.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 22:12     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:OP - I think part of issue is lack of overall business skills. Too many specialists even at SVP level.

Formal Management training programs, company sponsored MBAs and real mentors are thing of past. Also job loyalty is dead.

For example I a promoting a 42 year old next week. Super technical and super smart. Yet I am sending her to new manager training.

By time I was 22 I had staff working for me. My bank training program required me to supervise tellers, then work in operations supervising staff and work my way up to front office.

I don’t think boomer vs younger generation thing. My bosses when I was 22 many were in Army. My boss led troops in Vietnam as a teenager


Oh boy. Actually, the best managers I've ever had are gen-x folks. They are sensible, smart, and get along well with the boomers and millennials.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 22:11     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen this in my work. All I see are brilliant 30-45 year olds who are stuck under boomers and unable to move up. They are excellent middle managers right now and I think they'd be better senior managers than the current.


Yup.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 22:10     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:What happens?

Hopefully, workplaces become more flexible and family-friendly, everyone earns at least a living wage, health care becomes a human right, all children receive free high-quality child care, all parents get a year of parental leave... just for starters.

Retire already, please!


Can’t wait for $20 Big Macs, $100,000 Chevys and one million for a college degree, hey anyone have a $100 bucks the Pizza guy is here.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 20:54     Subject: Re:What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. "Once my generation retires, the world will go to SHAMBLES!"
Said every generation ever.

Maybe before you all retire, though, you could pass some damn legislation about climate change so your grandkids can still live on earth when they're your age. thanks.


Go out and vote.


Did I give the impression I didn't?

I don't vote for anyone over age 55 if I can help it, actually.


Not many options in 2020 then.


OMG don't I know it. Just read that Bernie had a heart attack. I mean... come on, old man. I like a lot of your ideas. But you're almost 80 years old. And just had a heart attack. Move aside.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 20:42     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:The past few years the amount of folks at work running areas 55 and over who have seen all business cycles and can make the tough the decisions and have a strong work ethic one by one are retiring. The next set of generations below don't have have a clue. Heck Look at WeWork CEO Adam Neuman he totally screwed up his whole company and IPO. No clue how to run a business. Meanwhile Jamie Dimon who is 63 at JP Morgan Chase runs a tight ship. JP Morgan have been only struggling to find a successor.

Pretty much not just CEO, CFO, CIO, CTO, CRO, etc the talent pool is week. Tons of great young workers, great department mangers etc. But the whole package is far and few. Why is that?

Who will be our next leaders of companies? The Unicorns, Uber, WeWork etc all seem to blow up and usually it is a young inexperienced C-suite to blame.


Jamie Dimon at JP Morgan has been implicated for enabling Adam Neuman. So if you are going to make gross over statements and stereotypes, at least get your facts right.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 20:13     Subject: What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:What happens?

Hopefully, workplaces become more flexible and family-friendly, everyone earns at least a living wage, health care becomes a human right, all children receive free high-quality child care, all parents get a year of parental leave... just for starters.

Retire already, please!


This. Can't wait!
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 20:06     Subject: Re:What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. "Once my generation retires, the world will go to SHAMBLES!"
Said every generation ever.

Maybe before you all retire, though, you could pass some damn legislation about climate change so your grandkids can still live on earth when they're your age. thanks.


Go out and vote.


Did I give the impression I didn't?

I don't vote for anyone over age 55 if I can help it, actually.


Not many options in 2020 then.
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2019 19:49     Subject: Re:What Happens when all the Adults Retire at Work?

Nobody is indispensable, even the president of the United States.

OP, relax. The world will be fine.