Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 13:29     Subject: Re:Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:I had no sympathy for the guy from Laos. If you commit and are convicted of a crime and spend 12 years in prison I am totally ok with you going back to your home country. I don't understand why he wasn't deported right after release. He also knowingly conceived a child when he knew his stay in this country was in jeopardy. The marine wife I felt bad for and I felt her husband was an asshole. I bet they get divorced. I feel really bad for all the kids in families who were born in their home country and then younger siblings born here. It's such a terribly unfair advantage their younger sibs have over them. The Colombia family shows the very real reality of how immigrants hate on eachother. I was raised by immigrants (we had papers but I realize it was the 80s and who knows if we would have been undocumented if we came over in the 2000s) and my parents would talk similarly. It's like a race against all immigrants. Who can buy a house the quickest, who can get their kids into the best schools, who can own a business, etc etc. It's not flatteringly and its shameful but it's extremely common.

PS: I think they all speak English, no? They taped everyone speaking both languages I think?

PPS: My parents NEVER spoke English in the house and I never speak English to my own kids. It doesn't mean they don't speak English at their job/day to day interactions outside the home.


Nope. The parents do not speak English. They said they never learned how to in the 17 or so years they've been in the US.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 11:48     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chris Rock said:

"A lot of white people scream they American as if they got something to do with the country being the way it is. Like they was on the Mayflower or some shit. When you break it down, there ain’t even that many Americans in this room, contributing Americans. Check this out. If you a veteran, if you fought in any war for the United States, you are American. God bless all the veterans. Big up to the veterans. I can’t say nothing wrong about the veterans. OK? You American. Now if you swam here from some shitty country that didn’t allow you Bubblicious, you too are American cos you overcame obstacles and made sacrifices to actually get here. You are a true American, OK? You really are. Don’t let nobody tell you no different. Everybody else, you’re just lucky. You’re just lucky. All you crazy white people, “I’m American!” All you did was come out of your mother’s pussy on American soil. That’s it. You think you’re better than somebody from France cos you came out of a pussy in Detroit?"


Are French people better than someone born in Detroit? This argues that they are, because they should be able to come live in the US, despite not being born here. The person born in Detroit, on the other hand, has no right to live in France, because they came out of pussy in the U.S.

Why is it only bad when the U.S. enforces its borders?


THAT is what you got from what Chris is saying??????
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 11:36     Subject: Re:Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It made me cringe, at times. The Israeli family, very clearly, could have remained in their country, and been just fine. The family from Columbia, the Dunoyer parents, seemed to have a terrible, entitled attitude that they deserve to be here more than others.


Agreed. I hope they get deported.

So far the only family I felt for was Kenia and Luis

The Israeli family also has the option of settling in any country they want
They are just entitled
Like the world owes them


What part of their story did you miss? They fled Tel Aviv during a time when bombs were being dropped on their neighborhoods and daily killings were happening. Just because it has settled now doesn’t mean it wasn’t terrible back then.


And yet, their entire family never left Israel, and somehow survived.


I don't see the connection.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 11:34     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

Sad or not, they have to go back.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 10:47     Subject: Re:Living Undocumented on Netflix

I had no sympathy for the guy from Laos. If you commit and are convicted of a crime and spend 12 years in prison I am totally ok with you going back to your home country. I don't understand why he wasn't deported right after release. He also knowingly conceived a child when he knew his stay in this country was in jeopardy. The marine wife I felt bad for and I felt her husband was an asshole. I bet they get divorced. I feel really bad for all the kids in families who were born in their home country and then younger siblings born here. It's such a terribly unfair advantage their younger sibs have over them. The Colombia family shows the very real reality of how immigrants hate on eachother. I was raised by immigrants (we had papers but I realize it was the 80s and who knows if we would have been undocumented if we came over in the 2000s) and my parents would talk similarly. It's like a race against all immigrants. Who can buy a house the quickest, who can get their kids into the best schools, who can own a business, etc etc. It's not flatteringly and its shameful but it's extremely common.

PS: I think they all speak English, no? They taped everyone speaking both languages I think?

PPS: My parents NEVER spoke English in the house and I never speak English to my own kids. It doesn't mean they don't speak English at their job/day to day interactions outside the home.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 10:41     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also the guys from Laos? I don't feel sorry for him. I don't care if he has changed his life around. He was a drug trafficker. How many lives did he ruin? I'm still watching but so far I have no sympathy for most of these families. I feel bad for Luis and His family and the woman who has been separated from her niece.

Also how do you live so many years in the US and not speak English. Its weird to be on such a high horse about being better than everyone and you can't bother to learn English.
I said what I said.


I don't feel sorry for any of the people featured. What's the story with the couple trying to bring their niece here? Why wasn't her mom with her? Not sure if I missed that part, or if they never talked about it.


The Mom (her sister) was murdered as was the rest of the family. I don't remember all the details. It seems like they were genuinely leaving for safety. I believe they came here seeking asylum
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 10:16     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:Also the guys from Laos? I don't feel sorry for him. I don't care if he has changed his life around. He was a drug trafficker. How many lives did he ruin? I'm still watching but so far I have no sympathy for most of these families. I feel bad for Luis and His family and the woman who has been separated from her niece.

Also how do you live so many years in the US and not speak English. Its weird to be on such a high horse about being better than everyone and you can't bother to learn English.
I said what I said.


I don't feel sorry for any of the people featured. What's the story with the couple trying to bring their niece here? Why wasn't her mom with her? Not sure if I missed that part, or if they never talked about it.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 10:14     Subject: Re:Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It made me cringe, at times. The Israeli family, very clearly, could have remained in their country, and been just fine. The family from Columbia, the Dunoyer parents, seemed to have a terrible, entitled attitude that they deserve to be here more than others.


Agreed. I hope they get deported.

So far the only family I felt for was Kenia and Luis

The Israeli family also has the option of settling in any country they want
They are just entitled
Like the world owes them


What part of their story did you miss? They fled Tel Aviv during a time when bombs were being dropped on their neighborhoods and daily killings were happening. Just because it has settled now doesn’t mean it wasn’t terrible back then.


And yet, their entire family never left Israel, and somehow survived.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 05:45     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

Also the guys from Laos? I don't feel sorry for him. I don't care if he has changed his life around. He was a drug trafficker. How many lives did he ruin? I'm still watching but so far I have no sympathy for most of these families. I feel bad for Luis and His family and the woman who has been separated from her niece.

Also how do you live so many years in the US and not speak English. Its weird to be on such a high horse about being better than everyone and you can't bother to learn English.
I said what I said.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 04:53     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

New poster. I think the Israeli family also had the bad luck to emigrate in 2001, when the whole face of "homeland security" and ability to emigrate to this country shifted completely. Yes, in hindsight they should probably have gone to another country, but obviously they didn't have a crystal ball. And like most people in the immigration process, they thought their case would be resolved in a few months. No one would or could have thought it would take 17 years.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 03:59     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

Pp here. Google Purim Massacre. Might shed some light on Tel Aviv circa mid nineties. Was not a safe place to be.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 03:53     Subject: Re:Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It made me cringe, at times. The Israeli family, very clearly, could have remained in their country, and been just fine. The family from Columbia, the Dunoyer parents, seemed to have a terrible, entitled attitude that they deserve to be here more than others.


Agreed. I hope they get deported.

So far the only family I felt for was Kenia and Luis

The Israeli family also has the option of settling in any country they want
They are just entitled
Like the world owes them


What part of their story did you miss? They fled Tel Aviv during a time when bombs were being dropped on their neighborhoods and daily killings were happening. Just because it has settled now doesn’t mean it wasn’t terrible back then.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2019 03:48     Subject: Re:Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:Having a heartbreaking story is not justification for open borders. If you talk to families of violent convicts, I'm sure they will similarly have heartbreaking stories.


Do you hear anyone on this thread asking for open borders?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 20:50     Subject: Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They say there are about 12 million illegal immigrants in this country. But if you ask a Native American, that number is more like 300 million.

David Letterman


Can’t do something illegal if there was no existing law to break. Europe civilized what would become the USA through conquest, because that’s what was done at the time.

The Dutch arrived in South Africa in 1652 and now farmland is being expropriated without compensation
Never too late
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2019 20:46     Subject: Re:Living Undocumented on Netflix

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It made me cringe, at times. The Israeli family, very clearly, could have remained in their country, and been just fine. The family from Columbia, the Dunoyer parents, seemed to have a terrible, entitled attitude that they deserve to be here more than others.


Agreed. I hope they get deported.

So far the only family I felt for was Kenia and Luis

The Israeli family also has the option of settling in any country they want
They are just entitled
Like the world owes them