Anonymous
10/02/2019 11:32
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree completely. I’m in MoCo and this is the problem that I have with MoCo being a Sanctuary County.
It's not.
Correct. It’s not an official policy. It’s only a sanctuary county in-practice.
You wanna see the greatest irony in the history of ironies? The CASA de Maryland offices in Langley Park? It has a 6 foot fence all the way around the property, with a locking gate.
Is there any doubt amongst MoCo residents that CASA is an incredibly corrupt and horrible institution?
Anonymous
10/02/2019 11:32
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No, it constitutes a willingness to simply ignore the laws that don’t suit us if doing so is in our personal interests.
We either have laws, or we don’t. If some people get to disregard them because it suits them, then what laws do I now get to disregard because it suits me?
Traffic laws. Not only do you get to disregard them, there's a 100% certainty that, if you have a driver's license, you actually do disregard them. Not all of them, all of the time - but many of them, quite often.
So in your mind, invading a sovereign country illegally, and driving there without a license or insurance, is exactly of the same severity as doing 34 in a 30.
It’s good of you to illustrate exactly where you stand on this so everyone can have a fully informed opinion of you and your posts.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 11:31
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
No, it constitutes a willingness to simply ignore the laws that don’t suit us if doing so is in our personal interests.
We either have laws, or we don’t. If some people get to disregard them because it suits them, then what laws do I now get to disregard because it suits me?
Traffic laws. Not only do you get to disregard them, there's a 100% certainty that, if you have a driver's license, you actually do disregard them. Not all of them, all of the time - but many of them, quite often.
DP
Not sure how it is in Fairfax County, but people regularly get citations in MoCo for violating traffic rules. You can't travel on most main roads without coming across a traffic camera. Or a red light camera at many intersections.
So, if I do disregard a traffic law, I am often issued a citation and pay a fine.
Much different for when people immigrate here illegally and don't face any negative consequences. Especially different when they are actually rewarded for being here illegally by being subject to a slightly more lenient set of laws.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 11:28
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree completely. I’m in MoCo and this is the problem that I have with MoCo being a Sanctuary County.
It's not.
Correct. It’s not an official policy. It’s only a sanctuary county in-practice.
You wanna see the greatest irony in the history of ironies? The CASA de Maryland offices in Langley Park? It has a 6 foot fence all the way around the property, with a locking gate.
In other words, you know that it isn't, but you like to say that it is.
Just as the county likes to boast that it isn’t a sanctuary county, despite it functioning as one.
Yep. You nailed it for me. Thanks.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 10:31
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:
No, it constitutes a willingness to simply ignore the laws that don’t suit us if doing so is in our personal interests.
We either have laws, or we don’t. If some people get to disregard them because it suits them, then what laws do I now get to disregard because it suits me?
Traffic laws. Not only do you get to disregard them, there's a 100% certainty that, if you have a driver's license, you actually do disregard them. Not all of them, all of the time - but many of them, quite often.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 10:29
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree completely. I’m in MoCo and this is the problem that I have with MoCo being a Sanctuary County.
It's not.
Correct. It’s not an official policy. It’s only a sanctuary county in-practice.
You wanna see the greatest irony in the history of ironies? The CASA de Maryland offices in Langley Park? It has a 6 foot fence all the way around the property, with a locking gate.
In other words, you know that it isn't, but you like to say that it is.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 10:18
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Agree completely. I’m in MoCo and this is the problem that I have with MoCo being a Sanctuary County.
It's not.
Correct. It’s not an official policy. It’s only a sanctuary county in-practice.
You wanna see the greatest irony in the history of ironies? The CASA de Maryland offices in Langley Park? It has a 6 foot fence all the way around the property, with a locking gate.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 10:14
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law, and then operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law?
Have you spent any time wondering about that?
No, you say?
Shocking.
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law? For an opportunity for a better life.
Why would someone operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law? Because to get places in Virginia, you basically have to drive.
This isn't complicated. If you think it is, that's shocking.
By your logic, I should come break in to your home and steal whatever valuables I find there - because that could better my life. And I should also steal your car in order to get back home after I rob you, because it’s Virginia, and I basically have to have a car to get around.
Care to post your address? I’m free today, I can stop by while you’re at work.
It's interesting that you think that being in a country without authorization constitutes stealing valuables from the country?
No, it constitutes a willingness to simply ignore the laws that don’t suit us if doing so is in our personal interests.
We either have laws, or we don’t. If some people get to disregard them because it suits them, then what laws do I now get to disregard because it suits me?
Anonymous
10/02/2019 10:02
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law, and then operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law?
Have you spent any time wondering about that?
No, you say?
Shocking.
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law? For an opportunity for a better life.
Why would someone operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law? Because to get places in Virginia, you basically have to drive.
This isn't complicated. If you think it is, that's shocking.
By your logic, I should come break in to your home and steal whatever valuables I find there - because that could better my life. And I should also steal your car in order to get back home after I rob you, because it’s Virginia, and I basically have to have a car to get around.
Care to post your address? I’m free today, I can stop by while you’re at work.
It's interesting that you think that being in a country without authorization constitutes stealing valuables from the country?
Anonymous
10/02/2019 10:00
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:
Agree completely. I’m in MoCo and this is the problem that I have with MoCo being a Sanctuary County.
It's not.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 10:00
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:I lean left and have immigrant parents, but have no problem with what the officer did.
None of us get to do what we want without repercussion. You are undocumented, AND you drive without a license (and presumably without insurance), AND you get into an accident? Yeah sorry, there are consequences.
I completely understand a human being seeking a better life, but this person should not be on the road.
The question was, why was the person driving? Not, should the person be driving? That's a different question. I agree that unlicensed, uninsured drivers should not be on the road. Actually there are plenty of licensed, insured drivers who shouldn't be on the road.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 09:33
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"...the officer received notification from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE), that the driver was wanted by ICE for an administrative violation warrant on file for the failure to appear for a deportation hearing."
This guy was a fugitive from the law. He failed to appear!!!
What do you think would happen if an American citizen had failed to appear for a hearing, got in a traffic accident and didn't have a license?????
This is lunacy.
Bingo.
This nails it.
We are now at a point in some places in this country where illegal aliens have MORE protection from law enforcerment than actual US citizens do.
This case illustrates that perfectly. If the driver were a typical soccer mom from north Arlington, she’d be in jail, until she bonded out.
But if the driver was an illegal, they’d be released at the scene, because if they held them, ICE might arrive in time to pick them up when they bond out.
This is complete lunacy. I’m strongly considering telling the police I’m an illegal alien if I’m ever involved in a traffic accident of any kind. Everyone else should as well.
Agree completely. I’m in MoCo and this is the problem that I have with MoCo being a Sanctuary County.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 09:24
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law, and then operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law?
Have you spent any time wondering about that?
No, you say?
Shocking.
Do you get to pick and choose laws?
No, I don’t. Do you?
Then why does the FFX county police chief get to? Because the uniform code of Virginia states that police shall notify ICE.
Is Fairfax county in Virginia? Or is it some extralegal jurisdiction where only certain laws are observed?
Please tell us.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 09:20
Subject: Re:How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:"...the officer received notification from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE), that the driver was wanted by ICE for an administrative violation warrant on file for the failure to appear for a deportation hearing."
This guy was a fugitive from the law. He failed to appear!!!
What do you think would happen if an American citizen had failed to appear for a hearing, got in a traffic accident and didn't have a license?????
This is lunacy.
Bingo.
This nails it.
We are now at a point in some places in this country where illegal aliens have MORE protection from law enforcerment than actual US citizens do.
This case illustrates that perfectly. If the driver were a typical soccer mom from north Arlington, she’d be in jail, until she bonded out.
But if the driver was an illegal, they’d be released at the scene, because if they held them, ICE might arrive in time to pick them up when they bond out.
This is complete lunacy. I’m strongly considering telling the police I’m an illegal alien if I’m ever involved in a traffic accident of any kind. Everyone else should as well.
Anonymous
10/02/2019 09:09
Subject: How do Fairfax Co. residents feel about this?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would criminal law enforcement be involved in administrative enforcement?
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law, and then operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law?
Have you spent any time wondering about that?
No, you say?
Shocking.
Why would someone knowingly come here in violation of federal law? For an opportunity for a better life.
Why would someone operate a motor vehicle without a license or insurance in violation of Virginia law? Because to get places in Virginia, you basically have to drive.
This isn't complicated. If you think it is, that's shocking.
By your logic, I should come break in to your home and steal whatever valuables I find there - because that could better my life. And I should also steal your car in order to get back home after I rob you, because it’s Virginia, and I basically have to have a car to get around.
Care to post your address? I’m free today, I can stop by while you’re at work.